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Kelly Pavlik the next "ROCKY MARCIANO??"
Hi their folks!!I've watched loads of Kelly Pavlik fights through the years and began to see a resemblance of the great ROCKY MARCIANO in him.I mean he has the raw power like him,and he fights on the front foot too,he moves very similar to how the ROCK did by pushing forward and being heavy handed in both hands too.But what i do feel stands out the most on the subject of Pavlik being like MARCIANO is that he plants his feet exactly more or less just like Marciano did.Nice and flat and solid.Could he be the present Marciano of the middleweights?.....i think so.He has everthing in he's arsenal.
Does anyone see a resemblance too, or it just me?:rolleyes:;D
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Re: Kelly Pavlik the next "ROCKY MARCIANO??"
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yvonne
Hi their folks!!I've watched loads of Kelly Pavlik fights through the years and began to see a resemblance of the great ROCKY MARCIANO in him.I mean he has the raw power like him,and he fights on the front foot too,he moves very similar to how the ROCK did by pushing forward and being heavy handed in both hands too.But what i do feel stands out the most on the subject of Pavlik being like MARCIANO is that he plants his feet exactly more or less just like Marciano did.Nice and flat and solid.Could he be the present Marciano of the middleweights?.....i think so.He has everthing in he's arsenal.
Does anyone see a resemblance too, or it just me?:rolleyes:;D
As an all American hero yes, to retire undefeated no, eventually there's going to be some young prospect that will come out and beat him. Only time will tell.
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Re: Kelly Pavlik the next "ROCKY MARCIANO??"
From what I've seen, Marciano was a lot more explosive and he seemed to possess more one-punch power, where-as Pavlik is just steady and constantly throwing combos with bad intentions on every punch.
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Re: Kelly Pavlik the next "ROCKY MARCIANO??"
imo pavlik is being so over hyped its untruee he still just has wins over taylor (no great shakes himself imo) and a weight drained Miranda, fair enough say all this when he has cleaned out 160 or 168 but not now
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Re: Kelly Pavlik the next "ROCKY MARCIANO??"
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From what I've seen, Marciano was a lot more explosive and he seemed to possess more one-punch power, where-as Pavlik is just steady and constantly throwing combos with bad intentions on every punch.
yup very true
pavlik is much more mechanical in his approach
And if you wanna make the whole lifestyle comparisons i can name you a good dozen or so fighters of similar characteristics who were just as as succesful as pavlik.
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Re: Kelly Pavlik the next "ROCKY MARCIANO??"
ha yea a bit optimistic to start comparing him with Marciano.
He is only 26 yet though, and is seemingly developing as he goes. I wouldn't be too surprised to see his form change some with this process. I just feel he has that capacity.
See what happens after his next fight.
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Re: Kelly Pavlik the next "ROCKY MARCIANO??"
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ha yea a bit optimistic to start comparing him with Marciano.
He is only 26 yet though, and is seemingly developing as he goes. I wouldn't be too surprised to see his form change some with this process. I just feel he has that capacity.
See what happens after his next fight.
He also reminds me a little of Hagler. He has the power , the chin and he is huge. The sky is the limit.
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Re: Kelly Pavlik the next "ROCKY MARCIANO??"
Hopefully so. We need as many stars as possible in boxing after Floyd's retirement. Like was pointed out elsewhere, that he's white can't hurt too. We really need him to be a big success. Hopefully he becomes a big star. Not only does he hit really hard but he recovers well when he gets hit really hard, so all you need for a Marciano comparison is for him to retire undefeated. :)
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Re: Kelly Pavlik the next "ROCKY MARCIANO??"
Pavlik is a better fundamentally than Marciano, but obviously he won't have more one punch KO power, he's being compared to a heavyweight, and even Marciano wasn't a guy who often got his better opponents out of there early. He needed to bang them up.
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Re: Kelly Pavlik the next "ROCKY MARCIANO??"
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ha yea a bit optimistic to start comparing him with Marciano.
He is only 26 yet though, and is seemingly developing as he goes. I wouldn't be too surprised to see his form change some with this process. I just feel he has that capacity.
See what happens after his next fight.
He also reminds me a little of Hagler. He has the power , the chin and he is huge. The sky is the limit.
I fail to see either comparison , Pavlik is taller and more upright than Marciano , and Marvin was shorter , a southpaw / switchhitter ,
Pavlik is Pavlik end of story , and you know thats not a bad thing at all.;D
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Youngblood
ha yea a bit optimistic to start comparing him with Marciano.
He is only 26 yet though, and is seemingly developing as he goes. I wouldn't be too surprised to see his form change some with this process. I just feel he has that capacity.
See what happens after his next fight.
He also reminds me a little of Hagler. He has the power , the chin and he is huge. The sky is the limit.
He was fighting Gary Lockett.
He KO'd a guy you had never heard of :o
A fucking nobody he was supposed to KO.:o
A guy who hadn't been operating at world level. Wow:o
He did precisely what he had to do last night. But let's not make it out to be more that it was
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Re: Kelly Pavlik the next "ROCKY MARCIANO??"
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Hopefully so. We need as many stars as possible in boxing after Floyd's retirement. Like was pointed out elsewhere, that he's white can't hurt too. We really need him to be a big success. Hopefully he becomes a big star. Not only does he hit really hard but he recovers well when he gets hit really hard, so all you need for a Marciano comparison is for him to retire undefeated. :)
True my friend!;)
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Re: Kelly Pavlik the next "ROCKY MARCIANO??"
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Youngblood
ha yea a bit optimistic to start comparing him with Marciano.
He is only 26 yet though, and is seemingly developing as he goes. I wouldn't be too surprised to see his form change some with this process. I just feel he has that capacity.
See what happens after his next fight.
He also reminds me a little of Hagler. He has the power , the chin and he is huge. The sky is the limit.
Hagler was little:smash:
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Re: Kelly Pavlik the next "ROCKY MARCIANO??"
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southakron314
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Youngblood
ha yea a bit optimistic to start comparing him with Marciano.
He is only 26 yet though, and is seemingly developing as he goes. I wouldn't be too surprised to see his form change some with this process. I just feel he has that capacity.
See what happens after his next fight.
He also reminds me a little of Hagler. He has the power , the chin and he is huge. The sky is the limit.
He was fighting
Gary Lockett.
He KO'd a guy you had never heard of :o
A fucking nobody he was supposed to KO.:o
A guy who hadn't been operating at world level. Wow:o
He did precisely what he had to do last night. But let's not make it out to be more that it was
Well I guess so can still compare him to Marciano, seeing Rocky fought a bunch of guys with losing records;D
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Re: Kelly Pavlik the next "ROCKY MARCIANO??"
Kelly Pavlik reminds me of Michael Carbajal. Because they both wear red gloves.
What do you guys thing?;)
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Re: Kelly Pavlik the next "ROCKY MARCIANO??"
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southakron314
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Youngblood
ha yea a bit optimistic to start comparing him with Marciano.
He is only 26 yet though, and is seemingly developing as he goes. I wouldn't be too surprised to see his form change some with this process. I just feel he has that capacity.
See what happens after his next fight.
He also reminds me a little of Hagler. He has the power , the chin and he is huge. The sky is the limit.
Hagler wle:smash:
They come forward. They hit hard and they both e great have and had chins and jabs. That my only comparision. Pavlik could be a southpaw. Have you ever seen him sign a autograph. He is a lefty.
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southakron314
He also reminds me a little of Hagler. He has the power , the chin and he is huge. The sky is the limit.
Hagler wle:smash:
They come forward. They hit hard and they both e great have and had chins and jabs. That my only comparision. Pavlik could be a southpaw. Have you ever seen him sign a autograph. He is a lefty.
Really?
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Re: Kelly Pavlik the next "ROCKY MARCIANO??"
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southakron314
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southakron314
He also reminds me a little of Hagler. He has the power , the chin and he is huge. The sky is the limit.
Hagler wle:smash:
They come forward. They hit hard and they both e great have and had chins and jabs. That my only comparision. Pavlik could be a southpaw. Have you ever seen him sign a autograph. He is a lefty.
Kelly comes forward behind the jab and the cross. His left hook is an occassional addition.
Hagler came forward with the intention of getting inside to throw hooks and uppercuts.
Kelly holds himself high. Hagler often rolled low.
I'm sorry. I just don't see the similarity?
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hitmandonny
Hagler wle:smash:
They come forward. They hit hard and they both e great have and had chins and jabs. That my only comparision. Pavlik could be a southpaw. Have you ever seen him sign a autograph. He is a lefty.
Kelly comes forward behind the jab and the cross. His left hook is an occassional addition.
Hagler came forward with the intention of getting inside to throw hooks and uppercuts.
Kelly holds himself high. Hagler often rolled low.
I'm sorry. I just don't see the similarity?
There is no comparison in Styles, just some overzealous fanboys:rolleyes: Kelly is Kelly and like someone already mentioned that is good enough his style is his own
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southakron314
They come forward. They hit hard and they both e great have and had chins and jabs. That my only comparision. Pavlik could be a southpaw. Have you ever seen him sign a autograph. He is a lefty.
Kelly comes forward behind the jab and the cross. His left hook is an occassional addition.
Hagler came forward with the intention of getting inside to throw hooks and uppercuts.
Kelly holds himself high. Hagler often rolled low.
I'm sorry. I just don't see the similarity?
There is no comparison in Styles, just some overzealous fanboys:rolleyes: Kelly is Kelly and like someone already mentioned that is good enough his style is his own
I like Kelly, I feel he can forge his own legacy and accounting for his age, expierience and opposition, he can still develop and improve.
I'm optimistic as to his future, but from what he's demonstrated so far (although impressive and highly entertaining) a parallel with Hagler is not correct nor justifiable.
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Re: Kelly Pavlik the next "ROCKY MARCIANO??"
The comparison I usually make is not Rocky Marciano or Hagler but to me he closely resembles Joe Louis. Every thing he throws is very textbook a stiff popping jab,hard straight right hand,great body work. A hard puncher who throws a shitload of punches.Not necessarily a plotter but a stalker looking to throw. That's my pick Joe Louis.
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Re: Kelly Pavlik the next "ROCKY MARCIANO??"
Pavlik is bald; Hagler was bald:o They're practically identical twins:D
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Pavlik is bald; Hagler was bald:o They're practically identical twins:D
A brother from another mother:p
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Re: Kelly Pavlik the next "ROCKY MARCIANO??"
Check out Pavliks stance and compare it with the stance of Rocky Marciano and you'll see the canny resemblance.Then throw in that he has great raw power in both hands,as did Marciano as well as a great chin and his forward fighting style and you'll see!It cant just be me seeing these things....anyhow i know what i see and i like the look of Pavlik.He has raw power that is great to see in the middleweight division.He's along way off Marciano's 49 unbeaten record but if he continues sparking people out soo easy then you never know!Speaking of which if theres one opponant to really K.O Pavlik for reall then who is it??Anyone got any ideas??:-\Thanks;D