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Mouthgard- Is this normal?
Just picked up my new mouthguard from my dentist but I am slightly concerned.The mouthguard itself fits perfectly and I barely notice it in my mouth. But, its incredibly thin and the material is fairly soft. I am a bit worried about any damage to my teeth when i get a hard smack in the mouth.
The mouth guard is nowhere near as thick as the shockdoctor I had, and seems to offer less protection for my teeth. Are they supposed to be this thin?
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Re: Mouthgard- Is this normal?
The medicated mouthguards do tend to be thinner. I've heard many complain that they lose their dentist-made mouthguard when used to the chunkier bite of the shock doctor.
Perhaps experiment with a friend in a spar to gauge it's limitations.
(It also should aid your breathing.)
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Cheers. When I have the new one in and tap my teeth, I can feel it much easier than when I can with the shock doctor in.
Although its really comfortable, I am a bit nervous about sparring now. Although keeping my mouth shut when sparring should be easier now so that should alleviate some of the potential dental hazards.
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cpcompany
Cheers. When I have the new one in and tap my teeth, I can feel it much easier than when I can with the shock doctor in.
Although its really comfortable, I am a bit nervous about sparring now. Although keeping my mouth shut when sparring should be easier now so that should alleviate some of the potential dental hazards.
I just saw the pictures. It does look very thin mate, but I can't comprehend why your dentist would allow you if it wasn't adequate.
I guess if you're in real doubt you could carry it with you to a doctors checkup:detective:
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A dentist made mouthguard is better then anything generic you will buy. And yes, they are much thinner as well.
I think I put this in your training log cpcompany a bit ago, but will repost this thought here for anyone reading. IF one buys a shock doctor, make sure not to buy the more expensive one, that I believe is colored. It has hard plastic that runs all the way down towards the back of it and it will cut into your cheek and open you up if you get hit.
They have a cheaper one with a lot less of this plastic, is black in color and much better suited for boxing.
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Originally Posted by
Youngblood
A dentist made mouthguard is better then anything generic you will buy. And yes, they are much thinner as well.
I think I put this in your training log cpcompany a bit ago, but will repost this thought here for anyone reading. IF one buys a shock doctor, make sure not to buy the more expensive one, that I believe is colored. It has hard plastic that runs all the way down towards the back of it and it will cut into your cheek and open you up if you get hit.
They have a cheaper one with a lot less of this plastic, is black in color and much better suited for boxing.
Ha its a pity ypou didn't post that a year ago YB.
I had one and it cut both my gum and inner cheek during a fight.
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Originally Posted by
Youngblood
A dentist made mouthguard is better then anything generic you will buy. And yes, they are much thinner as well.
I think I put this in your training log cpcompany a bit ago, but will repost this thought here for anyone reading. IF one buys a shock doctor, make sure not to buy the more expensive one, that I believe is colored. It has hard plastic that runs all the way down towards the back of it and it will cut into your cheek and open you up if you get hit.
They have a cheaper one with a lot less of this plastic, is black in color and much better suited for boxing.
The shock doctor is going in the bin ASAP. I didnt expect the doctors mouthguard to be this thin though.
I might have a word with a few of the pros and trainers at the gym to see if this guard is normal.
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Originally Posted by
cpcompany
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Originally Posted by
Youngblood
A dentist made mouthguard is better then anything generic you will buy. And yes, they are much thinner as well.
I think I put this in your training log cpcompany a bit ago, but will repost this thought here for anyone reading. IF one buys a shock doctor, make sure not to buy the more expensive one, that I believe is colored. It has hard plastic that runs all the way down towards the back of it and it will cut into your cheek and open you up if you get hit.
They have a cheaper one with a lot less of this plastic, is black in color and much better suited for boxing.
The shock doctor is going in the bin ASAP. I didnt expect the doctors mouthguard to be this thin though.
I might have a word with a few of the pros and trainers at the gym to see if this guard is normal.
Oh for sure, check it out. But I have a dentist one now, and it felt paper thin when I first put it in. Every one I've seen is a lot thinner also. But yea...after using a generic one, it does feel weird at first. Just try after a few weeks to put the shock doc back in...it will feel like you are sticking a shoe in there.
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Brainpad,brainpad,brainpad
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They all should be costumized fit.
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Pacstraightleft
They all should be costumized fit.
Most fighters cant afford a custom fit,you boil a brainpad,suck it up,and slam it in to your mouth,suck hard,you have your custom fit.That way you have a double mouth piece,with a breathing channel no less
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I had a brainpad and hated it. Couldnt breathe. Finally tossed it. To each his own though.
and to the guy who posted this original question, it's not about keeping your teeth in place. They'll be fine. ..you're not getting hit with a bare fist. It's about securing a tight fit between your upper and lower chompers so you dont get a concussion.
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Von Milash
I had a brainpad and hated it. Couldnt breathe. Finally tossed it. To each his own though.
and to the guy who posted this original question, it's not about keeping your teeth in place. They'll be fine. ..you're not getting hit with a bare fist. It's about securing a tight fit between your upper and lower chompers so you dont get a concussion.
must not have been fitted right,I have asthma,and adore mine
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Originally Posted by
cpcompany
Cheers. When I have the new one in and tap my teeth, I can feel it much easier than when I can with the shock doctor in.
Although its really comfortable, I am a bit nervous about sparring now. Although keeping my mouth shut when sparring should be easier now so that should alleviate some of the potential dental hazards.
If your so concerned about your new gumsheild(U.K version of a MOUTHGUARD)then why dont you just get another "Shock-docter?"After all like the saying!..."If it's not broken then why fix it!"At least you would feel comfortable with it.Here is another old saying that is appropriate on the matter!...."If you dont have the right tools,you dont do a good job!";)
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Originally Posted by
Von Milash
I had a brainpad and hated it. Couldnt breathe. Finally tossed it. To each his own though.
and to the guy who posted this original question, it's not about keeping your teeth in place. They'll be fine. ..you're not getting hit with a bare fist. It's about securing a tight fit between your upper and lower chompers so you dont get a concussion.
Agreed. I have a brainpad and I love it. Just shop around and try a few out and see what works best for you. Like everything else, we're all different, including our mouths.
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i just use a $3 single, but i look for ones that feel sturdy.
about brinapads, i have a small jaw so maybe that is a factor. infact, i can almost use a kids mouthguard.
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Seems like the thinner it is, the less protection it would offer. But I don't know shit about mouth guards. :dontknow:
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Cheers for the input everyone. A poster suggested that I should keep my shock doctor. Unfortunately, it was too bulky and uncomfortable that I couldnt keep my gob shut when I used it. A real recipe for a broken jaw!
I found a website in Japan that does custom gumshields and they look spot on. But, the cheeky bastards charge double if you order from the English side of their website. SO I will get my ex lass to write the online application in japanese for me. Then I can compare my dentists gumshield with another custom one.
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Originally Posted by
Von Milash
i just use a $3 single, but i look for ones that feel sturdy.
about brinapads, i have a small jaw so maybe that is a factor. infact, i can almost use a kids mouthguard.
Very well could be it,if it doesnt fit right the breathing channel isnt going to do you a whole lot of good
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hitmandonny
So how did you fare out?
Worn it twice in sparring. So far so good and my teeth are intact. Although I havent had a proper full on smack right in the mouth yet.
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cpcompany
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hitmandonny
So how did you fare out?
Worn it twice in sparring. So far so good and my teeth are intact. Although I havent had a proper full on smack right in the mouth yet.
Hopefully you wont:D
I'm thinking oif getting one made, I'm taking some serious punishment in training these days.
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hitmandonny
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Originally Posted by
cpcompany
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Originally Posted by
hitmandonny
So how did you fare out?
Worn it twice in sparring. So far so good and my teeth are intact. Although I havent had a proper full on smack right in the mouth yet.
Hopefully you wont:D
I'm thinking oif getting one made, I'm taking some serious punishment in training these days.
I love my new mouthguard Donny, and Ive been hit plenty and damn hard too. It is way more comfortable and I find I can suck more air. I know for sure cpcompanys original worries because I had them too. It really is quite a difference in feel.
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Youngblood
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Originally Posted by
hitmandonny
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Originally Posted by
cpcompany
Worn it twice in sparring. So far so good and my teeth are intact. Although I havent had a proper full on smack right in the mouth yet.
Hopefully you wont:D
I'm thinking oif getting one made, I'm taking some serious punishment in training these days.
I love my new mouthguard Donny, and Ive been hit plenty and damn hard too. It is way more comfortable and I find I can suck more air. I know for sure cpcompanys original worries because I had them too. It really is quite a difference in feel.
I'm accustomed to wearing quite a small mouthguard as I cvhanged to a very slim Shock Doc one when I broke my nose.
I thinkmI'll get one as soon as I can.
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Originally Posted by
hitmandonny
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Originally Posted by
Youngblood
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Originally Posted by
hitmandonny
Hopefully you wont:D
I'm thinking oif getting one made, I'm taking some serious punishment in training these days.
I love my new mouthguard Donny, and Ive been hit plenty and damn hard too. It is way more comfortable and I find I can suck more air. I know for sure cpcompanys original worries because I had them too. It really is quite a difference in feel.
I'm accustomed to wearing quite a small mouthguard as I cvhanged to a very slim Shock Doc one when I broke my nose.
I thinkmI'll get one as soon as I can.
The dentist mouthguar is paper thin compared to my shock doctor. WHen you get one let us know what its like.
I still intend to get another custom one from a place that does them over here via the net.
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Originally Posted by
cpcompany
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Originally Posted by
hitmandonny
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Originally Posted by
Youngblood
I love my new mouthguard Donny, and Ive been hit plenty and damn hard too. It is way more comfortable and I find I can suck more air. I know for sure cpcompanys original worries because I had them too. It really is quite a difference in feel.
I'm accustomed to wearing quite a small mouthguard as I cvhanged to a very slim Shock Doc one when I broke my nose.
I thinkmI'll get one as soon as I can.
The dentist mouthguar is paper thin compared to my shock doctor. WHen you get one let us know what its like.
I still intend to get another custom one from a place that does them over here via the net.
I will indeed.
I had a very high quality melt one for a while, but I lost it somewhere
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I actually have one custom from a dentist for my son, a junior boxer. He just kept messing around with the boil/bite one and spent more time concentrating on keeping it in his mouth. One of our coaches has an extensive history in the area with 'old' pros and amateurs and gave me a local dentist that did custom pieces for $100. It was worth it!! It was very thin, but a completely different material than the boil/bites. You almost can't bite through it if you wanted. Most importantly, the fit is so snug, it take a little pressure to pull if out/off. So, now it is almost as if he doesn't have it in.
My concern was, I always though the thicker the better and I asked the dentists "How could such a small and thin item possibly protect your teeth from direct impact". He told me that the purpose of the mouth guard is to keep the teeth together and inline so that the force of any impact is actually spread across all the teeth as opposed to having it concentrated on one or a few, which can result in tooth damage. It's not so much a "wall" as it is a "brace". It's sort of the same theory as how a bed of nails works. . .
Now, that's what HE told me but here's a link that seems to back it
up. . . HEALTH: Mouth Guard Hits and Myth-es
Again, the point is although thinner, the material from the dentist-made mouthguard is better and more effective. Thicker isn't better, necessarily.
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DC Amateur Boxing
I actually have one custom from a dentist for my son, a junior boxer. He just kept messing around with the boil/bite one and spent more time concentrating on keeping it in his mouth. One of our coaches has an extensive history in the area with 'old' pros and amateurs and gave me a local dentist that did custom pieces for $100. It was worth it!! It was very thin, but a completely different material than the boil/bites. You almost can't bite through it if you wanted. Most importantly, the fit is so snug, it take a little pressure to pull if out/off. So, now it is almost as if he doesn't have it in.
My concern was, I always though the thicker the better and I asked the dentists "How could such a small and thin item possibly protect your teeth from direct impact". He told me that the purpose of the mouth guard is to keep the teeth together and inline so that the force of any impact is actually spread across all the teeth as opposed to having it concentrated on one or a few, which can result in tooth damage. It's not so much a "wall" as it is a "brace". It's sort of the same theory as how a bed of nails works. . .
Now, that's what
HE told me but here's a link that seems to back it
up. . .
HEALTH: Mouth Guard Hits and Myth-es
Again, the point is although thinner, the material from the dentist-made mouthguard is better and more effective. Thicker isn't better, necessarily.
Nice to see you joining saddoboxing, DCA boxing. You are one of the only youtube'ers I pay attention to. For starters, my real name on here is "Youngblood", but I am currently paying off a lost Cotto/Margarito bet by having to wear this silly name :shakehead:. lol
Why I enjoy what you do, is that I am a 14 year old boxer here in Canada, currently working my way through the system. Am currently undefeated and heading into our provincial and national competitions coming along this fall thru the winter. I like to know what I am up against on the other side of the border, and your vids give me a pretty good idea about what is what, and who is who. So I appreciate that. ;)
I live on the border of northern MI, and have fought santioned fights in MI, at both the Kewadin Casino in Sault St marie, plus the Island Resort Casino in Escanaba. Basically looking for fights just about any where close enough to travel within reason...for fights here are hard to find for me, outside of tours which are too few and far between. So is always great to make contacts in the amateur boxing world.
Anyway, glad to see you are here, and again...I appreciate what it is you do. Hopefully you stick around and I can learn a bit more from you, and see if we can at some time end up at some of these tours as time goes on and the cameras roll.
Welcome to saddo's. :)
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Owned By Spicoli
Nice to see you joining saddoboxing, DCA boxing. You are one of the only youtube'ers I pay attention to. For starters, my real name on here is "Youngblood", but I am currently paying off a lost Cotto/Margarito bet by having to wear this silly name :shakehead:. lol
Why I enjoy what you do, is that I am a 14 year old boxer here in Canada, currently working my way through the system. Am currently undefeated and heading into our provincial and national competitions coming along this fall thru the winter. I like to know what I am up against on the other side of the border, and your vids give me a pretty good idea about what is what, and who is who. So I appreciate that. ;)
I live on the border of northern MI, and have fought santioned fights in MI, at both the Kewadin Casino in Sault St marie, plus the Island Resort Casino in Escanaba. Basically looking for fights just about any where close enough to travel within reason...for fights here are hard to find for me, outside of tours which are too few and far between. So is always great to make contacts in the amateur boxing world.
Anyway, glad to see you are here, and again...I appreciate what it is you do. Hopefully you stick around and I can learn a bit more from you, and see if we can at some time end up at some of these tours as time goes on and the cameras roll.
Welcome to saddo's. :)
Thanks for the feedback. I'm glad I can help. I've been involved in Amateur Boxing for a relatively short time, but I really enjoy it, especially watching young boxers develope. Have you thought about going to the Ringside Tournament in Missouri? BTW, Good luck at your nationals!
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DC Amateur Boxing
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Originally Posted by
Owned By Spicoli
Nice to see you joining saddoboxing, DCA boxing. You are one of the only youtube'ers I pay attention to. For starters, my real name on here is "Youngblood", but I am currently paying off a lost Cotto/Margarito bet by having to wear this silly name :shakehead:. lol
Why I enjoy what you do, is that I am a 14 year old boxer here in Canada, currently working my way through the system. Am currently undefeated and heading into our provincial and national competitions coming along this fall thru the winter. I like to know what I am up against on the other side of the border, and your vids give me a pretty good idea about what is what, and who is who. So I appreciate that. ;)
I live on the border of northern MI, and have fought santioned fights in MI, at both the Kewadin Casino in Sault St marie, plus the Island Resort Casino in Escanaba. Basically looking for fights just about any where close enough to travel within reason...for fights here are hard to find for me, outside of tours which are too few and far between. So is always great to make contacts in the amateur boxing world.
Anyway, glad to see you are here, and again...I appreciate what it is you do. Hopefully you stick around and I can learn a bit more from you, and see if we can at some time end up at some of these tours as time goes on and the cameras roll.
Welcome to saddo's. :)
Thanks for the feedback. I'm glad I can help. I've been involved in Amateur Boxing for a relatively short time, but I really enjoy it, especially watching young boxers develope. Have you thought about going to the Ringside Tournament in Missouri? BTW, Good luck at your nationals!
It was too short of notice for me and my club when I learned of it, the cut off date was I think June 28th for apps, and I couldn't get there solo. I wanted to go VERY bad as is the off season here. Next year we are likely going as a club. I almost packed a bag and jumped the border I wanted to go so bad! lol Sourpuss who posts here, is 1/2 way to Kansas City now and competing there as soon as Thursday I believe. Yet another reason I wanted to go, she is my online boxing bud so it woulda been cool to meet up...plus is a caliber of boxing I look for there and the guaranteed fights.
Thanks for the good wishes. Keep up the good work.
