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Indeed, fight club is dumb
I keep hearing Fight Club is supposed to have some important, enlightening message in it, but personally I think it is a pretty stupid movie..
I mean, if after you've seen a movie 5 times and still doing get 90% of it, does that make it a cool movie? Or a peice of crap?
Does that mean I am to dumb to get it? Or you aren't supposed to get it??
Either way, all that "clever" stuff in movies, is sometimes a great waste of time..
Cool scene's, great acting, interesting, fun in parts.. But overall??? Stupid!
I think I just miss the point of it perhaps
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The only message I got was that it is only possible to have Brad Pitt in a movie and it be a success ONLY due to a good supporting cast. Worst actor in Hollywood.
It was a good movie to watch; twice, then it became boring.
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LEGION
The only message I got was that it is only possible to have Brad Pitt in a movie and it be a success ONLY due to a good supporting cast. Worst actor in Hollywood.
It was a good movie to watch; twice, then it became boring.
Brad Pitt was amazing in Snatch, a similar role. I can`t think of anyone who could have pulled off that role near as well. I wasn`t much of a fan of him until then and then I went back and watched some of his work, and in these type of roles I like him...like say...A River Runs Through It.. again he played a hardass, and did a good job. Snatch though, truly spectacular.
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Youngblood
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LEGION
The only message I got was that it is only possible to have Brad Pitt in a movie and it be a success ONLY due to a good supporting cast. Worst actor in Hollywood.
It was a good movie to watch; twice, then it became boring.
Brad Pitt was amazing in Snatch, a similar role. I can`t think of anyone who could have pulled off that role near as well. I wasn`t much of a fan of him until then and then I went back and watched some of his work, and in these type of roles I like him...like say...A River Runs Through It.. again he played a hardass, and did a good job. Snatch though, truly spectacular.
Yeah, Snatch was great. Only other movie he did well in was Legends of the Fall. Thankfully he had Spacy and Freeman in 7 to save his bumbling act.
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I actually like fight club, some great scene's, values and ideals portrayed in the film. But it also highlight's how easily people can be sucked in and "addicted" to things in our lives when we connect with them. All the characters start out materialistic, soon they transform into drones, getting chemical burns, living in a delapitated house and then blowing up credit card company's with home made soap. Plus it's entertaining, can't ask for much more in a flick.
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so if there is a movie that you don't fully understand, and want to attempt to understand it more, you should..
read the book that it was created from :)
I personally loved fight club, the movie, but the book was even better, and gives you a better perspective on the story, as usual..
you probably really don't like the movie because so many people like it and you feel you should like it so you have expectations for it that it doesn't live up to..
anyway, in general i'd just say the story is a product of superficiality in society and how Ed Norton's character is so numb to his everyday life because it is so meaningless.. and he can't sleep.. So finally when he goes to these meetings, he is able to sleep.. until Marla comes along..
and then you have the creation of fight club, to bring some meaning into ed nortons characters life.. He was so numb to his everyday routine, his everyday sequence of going to work, that he eventually, mostly through his insomnia wished he could be someone else (tyler).. and did become that person.. and brought a self-destructive lifestyle to his life to add some meaning and excitement to it.. It was it's own form of therapy.. in fight club you became someone else..
that's my interpretation of a general theme of the movie..
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It was ok, maybe even good, I got it so to speak. Did not freak out about it like a lot of people I know.
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I posted a topic about this very movie awhile back and was told I'd really like it if I watched it again. They say you wouldn't get it the first time you watched it. I haven't had a chance to watch it again, so I really don't know... :dontknow:
The movie didn't make sense to me either.
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Fight Club is truely brilliant.
It's worth multiple viewings for the quotes alone (credit to Chuck Palahniuk of course)
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I thought fight club was excellent. The anti-materialism/anti-corporation message of the imaginary Tyler Dyrdan, the dark comedy of the protagonist who must go to meetings with the terminally ill just to sleep and the violence is insane.
The author of fight club, Chuck Palunik has several other great books.
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I do get the anti-commercialism message, but I already undstand and get that pretty well on it's own, so I guess maybe that message feel on deaf ears a bit..
I'm sure reading the book would come across a LOT more complete and I would probably get it all a little better...
One movie that is a little hard to understand,,,, well,,,, a lot hard to understand but is competely freakin awesome is Donnie Darko...
That's a trip of a movie, which probably has no message, and may not even be there to be understood. But it's cool.. The randomness of that movie really works!
The twists in fight club kind of feel like a real stretch. Like it's supposed to be clever, but you're just kind of like, ahhh, okay, fine then, he's both guys... The first time I watched it when I was 16 I would have said it was awesome! But now i've watched it for something a little more,,, it just doesn't provide.
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When I was 16 or so I loved this movie. I admired Tyler Durdan. I had a fight club poster in my room and read some Chuck Paluniak (know I spelled that wrong) novels as a result.
I havent seen it for years. Maybe it would all go...under my head if I watched it now.
There is a time and a place to enjoy this movie and it's probably before 20 years old ;)
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It's a movie I watched years ago, once, thought it was ok, but never thought too much of it. Then everyone started talking about it, so I'd like to see it again now that I'm older.
But based on my memory of it and bits and pieces I've seen since then, I'd say it's just a story of a guy who loses his mind. Not much more. A guy predisposed to schizophrenia who experiences some sort of trigger that sets him off.. and with that comes the self destructive behavior, contempt for life, etc.
If you want to see movies that are profound in the way they present deep, dark, underlying themes, there are surely much better. American Beauty was pretty heavy...
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The ending sux. I like the fight choreography though.
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Donnie Darko is one of my favourite movies, kind of like Butterfly effect, where one small change can have such dramatic effect on everybodies lives. There's supposed to be a #2 coming out taken from his sister perspective, looks pretty crap I just don't want them to wreck the first one.
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I feel a little vulnerabale admitting this on an internet forum, but there was a time in my life I could identify with the fight club movie.
Followeing the deaths of two close friends in a traffic accident and the death of my Grandmother, who cared from me all of my early life while my mother was in hospital, boxing helped me through. Physically taking punishment and administering pain of my own helped me to cope and although I assume it wasn't the best therapy I did work.
The weird thing was that feeling the pain was better than dishing it out.
I thought I was a freak, until a friend (another boxer) who was out for 6 months coonfided in me saying "I can't wait to get hit in the face."
We're weird animals.
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Thanks for sharing Donny, but you are defently not alone; i'm sure a lot of people use boxing as a therapy. Personally it helped me emensly for reasons I am ashamed of, but boxing helped me get through. Getting hit especially, I used to say to myself if I can deal with getting bruised and bloody I can get over this and I did.
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Salty
Thanks for sharing Donny, but you are defently not alone; i'm sure a lot of people use boxing as a therapy. Personally it helped me emensly for reasons I am ashamed of, but boxing helped me get through. Getting hit especially, I used to say to myself if I can deal with getting bruised and bloody I can get over this and I did.
I can relate man, strange isn't it?
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I know now that I look back at it, just swapping emotional pain for physical pain. But I know I couldn't have done it any other way, which is one of the reasons I love this sport so much.
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Dizaster
I keep hearing Fight Club is supposed to have some important, enlightening message in it, but personally I think it is a pretty stupid movie..
I mean, if after you've seen a movie 5 times and still doing get 90% of it, does that make it a cool movie? Or a peice of crap?
Does that mean I am to dumb to get it? Or you aren't supposed to get it??
Either way, all that "clever" stuff in movies, is sometimes a great waste of time..
Cool scene's, great acting, interesting, fun in parts.. But overall??? Stupid!
I think I just miss the point of it perhaps
What the hell are you saying here? Seriously, I think you used several wrong words and I'm confused. I get you don't get fight club, okay, but what does "doing get 90% of it" mean? Are you saying you don't get 90% of it?
If that's the case, I don't see how you could have watched it five times and don't get it. It's about a guy who is so dissatisfied with the life he's led that he creates an alternate persona to give himself meaning. He didn't have the courage to do it himself so he developed some cause that he didn't necessarily believe in to feel like he'd done something. The message is there, plain and simple, don't let the things surrounding you dictate who you are, you decide.
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liquid
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Dizaster
I keep hearing Fight Club is supposed to have some important, enlightening message in it, but personally I think it is a pretty stupid movie..
I mean, if after you've seen a movie 5 times and still doing get 90% of it, does that make it a cool movie? Or a peice of crap?
Does that mean I am to dumb to get it? Or you aren't supposed to get it??
Either way, all that "clever" stuff in movies, is sometimes a great waste of time..
Cool scene's, great acting, interesting, fun in parts.. But overall??? Stupid!
I think I just miss the point of it perhaps
What the hell are you saying here? Seriously, I think you used several wrong words and I'm confused. I get you don't get fight club, okay, but what does "doing get 90% of it" mean? Are you saying you
don't get 90% of it?
If that's the case, I don't see how you could have watched it five times and don't get it. It's about a guy who is so dissatisfied with the life he's led that he creates an alternate persona to give himself meaning. He didn't have the courage to do it himself so he developed some cause that he didn't necessarily believe in to feel like he'd done something. The message is there, plain and simple, don't let the things surrounding you dictate who you are, you decide.
You hit the nail right on the head with this (rep coming your way soon). Having been a long time Chuck Palahniuk fan and fight club probably being my second or third favorite of his books.
You really should read the book. The movie did a good job capturing what it could, but like I said if you really want to get the full effect of this great piece of work read the book.
Just to clear something up. The movie actually flopped in box office numbers. Not til it came out on DVD did it really start picking up momentum and stir and then quickly became a Cult Classic.
I'm actually looking forward to August when Chuck Palahniuks book "Choke" hits the big screen. I really hope they do the book justice.
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Indeed it is a crap movie probably one of the most overrated films ever.
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I liked the twist ending but yeah the plot for the most part was retarded.