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"Joe Calzaghe is Scared of Kelly Pavlik," Says Jack Loew - Boxing News
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"Joe Calzaghe is Scared of Kelly Pavlik," Says Jack Loew - Boxing News
Thanks for the article, but from the perspective of the Calzaghe camp why face Pavlik when you can fight a known legend, that is knowingly past his prime and will knowingly bring more money? I would be super impressed with Calzaghe if he fights Pavlik, but realistically it's hard to picture Old man Joe taking any other option than Jones is well not likely.Quote:
Originally Posted by Deanrw
Myself, I looked at it as a fight where both guys are taking a huge risk. When fighters lay it all on the line, that will spell better reputations even if they lose. I look at undefeated records as a negative mark as they just did not try hard enough.Quote:
Originally Posted by killersheepThanks for the article, but from the perspective of the Calzaghe camp why face Pavlik when you can fight a known legend, that is knowingly past his prime and will knowingly bring more money? I would be super impressed with Calzaghe if he fights Pavlik, but realistically it's hard to picture Old man Joe taking any other option than Jones is well not likely.Quote:
Originally Posted by Deanrw
This is why I am looking forward to Miranda vs Abraham this weekend. it will be a smoker ;D
I agree Deanrw , and im looking forward this fight too that will be a great fight guys , Miranda i think that want impress to see if he can get another fight with Pavlik , another that could be a great again........:cool:Quote:
Originally Posted by DeanrwMyself, I looked at it as a fight where both guys are taking a huge risk. When fighters lay it all on the line, that will spell better reputations even if they lose. I look at undefeated records as a negative mark as they just did not try hard enough.Quote:
Originally Posted by killersheepThanks for the article, but from the perspective of the Calzaghe camp why face Pavlik when you can fight a known legend, that is knowingly past his prime and will knowingly bring more money? I would be super impressed with Calzaghe if he fights Pavlik, but realistically it's hard to picture Old man Joe taking any other option than Jones is well not likely.Quote:
Originally Posted by Deanrw
This is why I am looking forward to Miranda vs Abraham this weekend. it will be a smoker ;D
Yeah, I bet edison dreams about a rematch with Kelly. Problem is, I just don't see him winning against Pavlik; though I'd love to see a rematch. I wouldn't mind seeing Pavlik get a fight with Abraham as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by MachoI agree Deanrw , and im looking forward this fight too that will be a great fight guys , Miranda i think that want impress to see if he can get another fight with Pavlik , another that could be a great again........:cool:Quote:
Originally Posted by DeanrwMyself, I looked at it as a fight where both guys are taking a huge risk. When fighters lay it all on the line, that will spell better reputations even if they lose. I look at undefeated records as a negative mark as they just did not try hard enough.Quote:
Originally Posted by killersheep
This is why I am looking forward to Miranda vs Abraham this weekend. it will be a smoker ;D
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Originally Posted by Deanrw
haha good. Joe wants to talk shit in public, glad they threw some right back.
and I agree with this.Quote:
Originally Posted by killersheepThanks for the article, but from the perspective of the Calzaghe camp why face Pavlik when you can fight a known legend, that is knowingly past his prime and will knowingly bring more money? I would be super impressed with Calzaghe if he fights Pavlik, but realistically it's hard to picture Old man Joe taking any other option than Jones is well not likely.Quote:
Originally Posted by Deanrw
What I don't agree with is how Calzaghe and camp handled it. I doubt very much you would ever have read this article if not for them going on about it is just because Joe is so much better and Kelly isn't ready and such. It really was not necessary.
I like the way Kelly keeps quiet and his trainer does the trash talking. They both know in the same situation they'd take the money too.
EDIT; I actually do like the way they do that, I'm not being sarcastic.
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Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing
I think is it simply Kelly is a classy guy and will talk with his hands. These words needed to be said IMO, so here they are.
Lol. You'll need a disclaimer for every post now:DQuote:
Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing
I've defended Floyd for taking the bigger money fight, so I'll defend Joe.
The Roy fight probably brings twice the money as a Pavlik fight. Its much less risky, he'd be silly not to take it. 20 years from now, people will forget that Jones was a shadow of what he was and a win over him could look good on Joe's resume. He should fight Jones and then Pavlik.
I'll have to set a signature saying something like "this post reflects my honestly held views and is in no way meant to be confrontational, controversial, sarcastic or offensive." :)Quote:
Originally Posted by LEGIONLol. You'll need a disclaimer for every post now:DQuote:
Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing
Look Lockett was the test for the Calzaghe/Pavlik potential fight, as they are in the same stable. Enzo saw what happened to Lockett and right then and there was no way Joe was going to fight him.
Enzo's knows how Joe fairs against Lockett, they are in the same camp for goodness sakes. It was the measuring stick and Enzo saw what he did...and there will be no Pavlik fight. Period.
Joe is not the best of the millennium that title belongs to the hated money May.
Why doesnt Joe just fight em both?
Totally agree with Jack...maybe not totally...but I agree basically.
Being a fan of both...I can honestly say that Joe needs to put up & shut up.
If Pavlik's such a walk in the park...put on your hip boots & get deep in the muck because honestly...it aint gonna be that easy.
In the end...I believe in Joe & feel that he would win...but Kelly's got rocks in his gloves & Joe tasted canvas against my FOAT when the Nard dropped him & that aint a great sign.
Wackos back :o
If this fight gets signed, the smack talking is gonna be good stuff.
I can't imagine what the drbr for Calzaghe Vs B-Hop would be like...I had B-Hop by like a point.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wacko2305
The Calzaghe camp didn't need to comment on Pavlik like that, stupid, a little disrespectful and leaves yourself open to be called out.Quote:
Originally Posted by Youngblood
Lockett never had a hope against Pavlik, he was never even close to world class, I don't think that fight had much of a bearing on Calzaghe's decision.
A pavlik fight at this time is a huge risk for Joe, the Calzaghe of a couple years ago would win a comfortable decision IMO, but the lethargic version against Hopkins would be in for a real tough fight, it would be a real risk to his legacy considering if he were to win Pavlik's stock would be downgraded retrospectively.
I would personally hold a W over Kelly as huge for Joe, but many fans are already pointing out deficiencies in Pavlik's game (slow footed, 1 dimensional, and unproven above middle). I think Pavlik's a brilliant fighter, and while there is some truth about his slow feet, his other attributes (Power, strength, reach, awsome jab, determination) more than make up for it. I believe a lot of fans are weary of jumping on a bandwagon nowadays in case they look stupid like they did with Lacy.
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Originally Posted by Deanrw
F*ck Jack Leow!!
Joe would box Kelly's head off and easily get a stoppage.
Pavlicks straight line approach would be DESTROYED by JC.
I'd see this as an easy night work for Joe if im honest!
I got big BIG respect for Kelly but his manager is a gobshite who NO-ONE in boxing circles has a good word to say about.
Sounds like Jack Loew is mouth of the month. Was Enzo last.
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F*ck Jack Leow!!
Joe would box Kelly's head off and easily get a stoppage.
Pavlicks straight line approach would be DESTROYED by JC.
I'd see this as an easy night work for Joe if im honest!
I got big BIG respect for Kelly but his manager is a gobshite who NO-ONE in boxing circles has a good word to say about.[/quote]
Hi Enzo. :wavey:
Joe is 36 , his skills not what they once were, is undefeated and looking for a final huge pay day - which he deserves.
Ask yourself this - if you were Joe what would you do
I know what I would do:)
NB - I used to slag Joe off regularly up to a couple of years back when he took easy fights so am in no way a massive fan (but am a fan;))
Ohlar there Mark TKO.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mark TKO
I've been a Calzaghe jock rider for the duration...I have no shame in saying so either.
Now...as to what I would do were I Calzaghe...I'd, first & foremost, fight RJJ. No matter what anyone says...that's the most marketable fight for him right now.
RJJ has had a bit of a career booster of late with his wins...even being over C+ grade fighters. He's worked his way up to the front of the line again & has become more than just a shade of his former self. He's making noise at 168lbs & 175 respectively.
Pavlik on the other hand is a star at 160lbs. He has'nt beaten a legit (no slight to Lockett) 168'er or 175'er yet.
No if's, and's, or buts!