Who was it from the WNF crew that said Powell looked high? You were right!!

I forget who called it, and I don't feel like going to look it up, but in the WNF fight thread last week, someone, or a few, said that both Powell and Latimore looked high in their interviews, well, Powell was, he tested positive for weed in his post fight piss test.

ESPN - Powell flunks drug test after loss to Latimore, suspended 60 days - Boxing

Yes though I thought it was obvious when instead of going to Gleasons, Powell chose to get his sparring in on Fight Night Round 3.

Haaa, actually it was Latimore who we dubbed the tokemaster ;D In the pre fight interview he looked like he had been chiefing big time.In the ring it was Powell that fought like he was catching clouds Lol....

good heads up Diane....guess this explains the Ishe smith waltz as well

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Yes though I thought it was obvious when instead of going to Gleasons, Powell chose to get his sparring in on Fight Night Round 3.

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Actually scratch that he got his ass handed to him :-X

I don't know if you should be suspended for smoking weed, it's not like it would help your performance. Didn't Tyson get caught for smoking weed too?

Yes against Golota. I'm fine with being suspended for weed I mean, for the people who pay to see an athlete perform I would hope their dedication is serious and if you can't abstain for 3 weeks within the drug test then I can't really feel sorry for you when you know the score. Now if they sprung a random drug test on him and then he failed for just weed then maybe my position would be different. But if you fight in California or New York you know you are going to be drug tested across the board so don't really have much sympathy. Powell is still the man though, that was a good fight.

Suspended for 60 days...

That's sooo stupid, it's not like he was gonna fight in 60 days.
Fucken dumb shits...

He should be suspended for 6 months AND he should be fined.

I don't care what it was the point is IT'S illegal.

Boxing is a sport where competition can be lost because of the expenditure of nervous energy before the fight.

Weed could help calm the fighter and retain energy, so yes it could be helpful.

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Suspended for 60 days...

That's sooo stupid, it's not like he was gonna fight in 60 days.
Fucken dumb shits...

He should be suspended for 6 months AND he should be fined.

I don't care what it was the point is IT'S illegal.

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Agreed. Why would anyone choose to smoke weed in the lead up to a PRO fight???? I'm not a big anti-drug type but pro fighters are atheletes FFS you just keep away from that stuff. I know, I know, the money - they are young - blah blah. But there's a guy i work with who visits the top level rugby league clubs here talking about lifestyle choices, money management, living away from home etc - welfare stuff. He's an ex-player who played at the highest level and he tells them that they have chosen to be atheletes, they must behave like one (i gave him that one ;D). They are not in a rock band or some other celebrity where drinking and drugs wont affect their performance or stop them doing what they do for a living (Robert Downey Jnr excepted). Boxers IMAO are the same. They are the fittest of athletes and need to understand that for boxing to continue to improve it's reputation the governing bodies need to make sure that those who are testing positive to banned substances are dealt with harshly. That's what happens in other sports - why not boxing?

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Boxing is a sport where competition can be lost because of the expenditure of nervous energy before the fight.

Weed could help calm the fighter and retain energy, so yes it could be helpful.

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You have got to be kidding. Weed cannot help you fight, that is just stupid hitmandonny. Please tell me I have just taken the bait......:o

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You have got to be kidding. Weed cannot help you fight, that is just stupid hitmandonny. Please tell me I have just taken the bait......:o

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The amount of nervous energy expended before a fight limits a boxers energy reserve within the fight.

If someone could find a way to completely relax before a fight (Hearns used massage,) you save truckloads of energy which can be employed in the ring.

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You have got to be kidding. Weed cannot help you fight, that is just stupid hitmandonny. Please tell me I have just taken the bait......:o

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The amount of nervous energy expended before a fight limits a boxers energy reserve within the fight.

If someone could find a way to completely relax before a fight (Hearns used massage,) you save truckloads of energy which can be employed in the ring.

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Um yes but good training - experience - good prep - good fight day routine would be a better solution than smoking weed surely. It affects your co-ordination, perception, emotional experience and in some people triggers psychosis. Why would any athelete want to smoke weed in prep for competition? I remember a fight from my high school, one guy who was considered to be a real tough guy (had many brothers in the school who were older and considered tough too). He would fight regularly at school and after school at a designated venue. He won a lot of fights but always smoked weed before a fight thinking it would help him relax and take the pain out of the hits he took. He took on a younger guy one day after school at an agreed venue and he was not too bad a fighter for someone without too much training. The other guy was 2 years younger ( at that stage of high school it's important due to physical development) and could fight just ok too. He was a bit taller and the tough guy had a few cones before the fight and the other guy didnt - the fight started - both hit each other with some good shots after about 1- 2 minutes, then the guy who hadn't smoked kept the pace the same but the "tough" guy started to fade and look vague, well he got hit with some big shots and stopped the fight and left even though he was a better fighter and should have beat the guy fairly easy and would have if he didn't smoke. It does not help you fight - shit what a ramble!!

The more that a fighter trains the moire nerves affect them.
If a fighter has in=vested months of their lives in the fight and sacrificed all his comforts, he becomes extremely nervy before the fight.

From my limited knowledge of the drug it does efect the user in all the ways you have mentioned, however as I mentioned, if taken at correct times it could be used for this purpose. It may not be ideal, but I can envisage an athlete with poor guidance using the drug to calm nerves before a fight.

As your story suggested any foreign substance alters the body and pretty much negates training that has been done, but if a fighter were to kill the nerves, by whatever means in the hours coming up to the fight and was given back his "senses" before the figjht it would be an excelent method.

Drugs aren't uncommon in boxing, so many boxers take cocaine for confidence once their careers end.

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The more that a fighter trains the moire nerves affect them.
If a fighter has in=vested months of their lives in the fight and sacrificed all his comforts, he becomes extremely nervy before the fight.

From my limited knowledge of the drug it does efect the user in all the ways you have mentioned, however as I mentioned, if taken at correct times it could be used for this purpose. It may not be ideal, but I can envisage an athlete with poor guidance using the drug to calm nerves before a fight.

As your story suggested any foreign substance alters the body and pretty much negates training that has been done, but if a fighter were to kill the nerves, by whatever means in the hours coming up to the fight and was given back his "senses" before the figjht it would be an excelent method.

Drugs aren't uncommon in boxing, so many boxers take cocaine for confidence once their careers end.

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Yeah good point. But the problem is IF and WAS. I dont think ex-fighters take cocaine for confidence, no sucessful pro fighter lacks confidence.

AND the fact that drugs aren't uncommon in boxing is a problem. When your kids are ready hitmandonny do you want them to do a sport that has a drug culture or one that doesn't?

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Yeah good point. But the problem is IF and WAS. I dont think ex-fighters take cocaine for confidence, no sucessful pro fighter lacks confidence.

AND the fact that drugs aren't uncommon in boxing is a problem. When your kids are ready hitmandonny do you want them to do a sport that has a drug culture or one that doesn't?

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Well Bruno as an example took cocaine throughout his career, for confidence boosting reasons. Apparantly that was the explnanation for his brave showing against Tyson the second time.

Joe Louis took Cocaine after his retirement.
Again...I have limited knowledge, but I believe it's for that "invincible feeling" that both cocaine and boxing victories are famed for.
(I should have clarified that better actually confidence/exhilaration.)

Oh absolutley, I hate drugs personally. I've worked in several gyms in drug estates trying to introduce boxing, but when I left the clubs just collapsed, which is pretty disappointing. As a whole I think boxing is relatively clean, but I do feel such cases as these need to be dealt with firmly in ordr to stamp out similar cases.

The reason I stuck o my original point is because during training we have been approached a number of times in a study asking how we quench nerves in order to reatain energy. Its a real study that some people are chasing answers too as it could prove highly beneficial in not only boxing, but all sports and pursuits.

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Yeah good point. But the problem is IF and WAS. I dont think ex-fighters take cocaine for confidence, no sucessful pro fighter lacks confidence.

AND the fact that drugs aren't uncommon in boxing is a problem. When your kids are ready hitmandonny do you want them to do a sport that has a drug culture or one that doesn't?

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Well Bruno as an example took cocaine throughout his career, for confidence boosting reasons. Apparantly that was the explnanation for his brave showing against Tyson the second time.

Joe Louis took Cocaine after his retirement.
Again...I have limited knowledge, but I believe it's for that "invincible feeling" that both cocaine and boxing victories are famed for.
(I should have clarified that better actually confidence/exhilaration.)

Oh absolutley, I hate drugs personally. I've worked in several gyms in drug estates trying to introduce boxing, but when I left the clubs just collapsed, which is pretty disappointing. As a whole I think boxing is relatively clean, but I do feel such cases as these need to be dealt with firmly in ordr to stamp out similar cases.

The reason I stuck o my original point is because during training we have been approached a number of times in a study asking how we quench nerves in order to reatain energy. Its a real study that some people are chasing answers too as it could prove highly beneficial in not only boxing, but all sports and pursuits.

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Ok wow thanks for your honesty Hitmandonny. I doubt Joe Louis took cocaine for confidence, he took it after his retirement..... he didn't take it when he fought - BIG difference. Taking drugs when you are not an athelete means nothing to me. Make your own decisions,

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Ok wow thanks for your honesty Hitmandonny. I doubt Joe Louis took cocaine for confidence, he took it after his retirement..... he didn't take it when he fought - BIG difference. Taking drugs when you are not an athelete means nothing to me. Make your own decisions,

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No I can't see Joe as a user during his peak years, he was a well documented champ and physically he seemed far too unblemished to have been a user.

I honestly can now see the signs in Bruno looking back in retrospect.
Perhaps Tyson also:eek:

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Boxing is a sport where competition can be lost because of the expenditure of nervous energy before the fight.

Weed could help calm the fighter and retain energy, so yes it could be helpful.

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You have got to be kidding. Weed cannot help you fight, that is just stupid hitmandonny. Please tell me I have just taken the bait......:o

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Well I've discussed this matter before...

Look at B-Ball players it's a well known fact that a lot of them like to smoke weed before games.

The guy on here by the name "mickyluvsu" he's my high school friend and that dude used to blaze before playing B-Ball it used to help him play 5 times better. He tried playing off it and it just wasn't the same.

So I do believe that you can benefit from it if you know your body reacts a certain way to it.
Some people it makes them sleepy/drowsy it's different for everyone.

Jake Lamotta admitted in his book.That he used to take a shot or two of Whiskey to help him be fearless and what he believed to help him take punches. I know some of you deep down really wanted to know that.

moral lesson: don't take the pee test. ;D

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Jake Lamotta admitted in his book.That he used to take a shot or two of Whiskey to help him be fearless and what he believed to help him take punches. I know some of you deep down really wanted to know that.

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I think a lot of the fighters back then used to go in the ring liquored up.

I think THEE worst one I've read & know about is Mike Ayala shooting up heroin prior to his fight with Danny Lopez which explains how the fight turned out to be.

I wanna talk shit....but i know my black ass wouldn't pass a pee test right now either.

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I wanna talk shit....but i know my black ass wouldn't pass a pee test right now either.

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That makes 2 of us...

The fucked up part with me is they test us at work randomly.

(But I'm cool with the Office Mngr. so she never picks my name :D )

It's funny that people think weed would give someone an advantage....yeah that really amps you up for a fight. It should get the same punishment as if it was alcohol...but whatever gotta play by their rules if you wanna play.

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Boxing is a sport where competition can be lost because of the expenditure of nervous energy before the fight.

Weed could help calm the fighter and retain energy, so yes it could be helpful.

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You have got to be kidding. Weed cannot help you fight, that is just stupid hitmandonny. Please tell me I have just taken the bait......:o

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Well I've discussed this matter before...

Look at B-Ball players it's a well known fact that a lot of them like to smoke weed before games.

The guy on here by the name "mickyluvsu" he's my high school friend and that dude used to blaze before playing B-Ball it used to help him play 5 times better. He tried playing off it and it just wasn't the same.

So I do believe that you can benefit from it if you know your body reacts a certain way to it.
Some people it makes them sleepy/drowsy it's different for everyone.

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It doesn't count because you were guarding him and you were stoned too.:wackomz4:

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Boxing is a sport where competition can be lost because of the expenditure of nervous energy before the fight.

Weed could help calm the fighter and retain energy, so yes it could be helpful.

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You have got to be kidding. Weed cannot help you fight, that is just stupid hitmandonny. Please tell me I have just taken the bait......:o

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Well I've discussed this matter before...

Look at B-Ball players it's a well known fact that a lot of them like to smoke weed before games.

The guy on here by the name "mickyluvsu" he's my high school friend and that dude used to blaze before playing B-Ball it used to help him play 5 times better. He tried playing off it and it just wasn't the same.

So I do believe that you can benefit from it if you know your body reacts a certain way to it.
Some people it makes them sleepy/drowsy it's different for everyone.

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Yeah ok, i know people do it, and they used to scoff brandy in the early days of the Tour De France instead of water, but they don't anymore. My experience with weed and alcohol is that i want to relax, last thing i want to do with either is fight, i just wanna chill. Can't imagine going into a fight or any sporting event after having either. Having said that though I used to play aussie rules footy in Sydney and one of our best players would smoke weed before training and pretty much all the games, it only affected his stamina not his skill. However eventually he lost motivation all together and just gave up on everything.