Congrats to Abraham

I was wrong in my prediction of the fight... It is true everytime Edison has stepped up he has fallen short, that still does not change my opinion of his power and excitement factor.. Edison will have his moments but will never be an elite unfortunately.

Abraham showed that he is well rounded, and I think a fight with Pavlik is more important than Calzaghe... I would really question Kelly if he moved up to 168 when clearly someone has a big problem with his claim to the middleweight crown and I'm not convinced either that a Pavlik KO is a foregone conclusion... Arthur is the shorter accurate puncher with a worlds better defense.. Abraham is the right fight for Pavlik not Joe Cal..

And as my boy Johnny Kickass stated, Arthur was all class and is welcome in the USA anytime he wants..

Congrats Arthur Abraham

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I was wrong in my prediction of the fight... It is true everytime Edison has stepped up he has fallen short, that still does not change my opinion of his power and excitement factor.. Edison will have his moments but will never be an elite unfortunately.

Abraham showed that he is well rounded, and I think a fight with Pavlik is more important than Calzaghe... I would really question Kelly if he moved up to 168 when clearly someone has a big problem with his claim to the middleweight crown and I'm not convinced either that a Pavlik KO is a foregone conclusion... Arthur is the shorter accurate puncher with a worlds better defense.. Abraham is the right fight for Pavlik not Joe Cal..

And as my boy Johnny Kickass stated, Arthur was all class and is welcome in the USA anytime he wants..

Congrats Arthur Abraham

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This post is class :happy0931sb4:

Nicely said Rock:)

I thought Miranda would win; really up to the point of the 3 knockdowns. Just thought Abraham would be gun-shy; but he came through very nicely. Abraham/Pavlik is hopefully going to get hooked; and I wouldn't even hazard a guess at who would win. Forget Calzaghe at this point.

His brother showed no class!!

Miranda Hit by Alex Abraham, Arrested? Abraham Fined? - Boxing News

"BoxingScene/MaxBoxing.com has been told by several sources live at the Hard Rock in Florida, that after Edison Miranda was knocked down for the third time by Arthur Abraham and the fight was stopped, Arthur's brother Alexander Abraham, the undefeated junior middleweight, kicked Miranda while he was still down and being checked by the ring doctor.
When Miranda was struck, a brief scuffle took place. The ring doctor tried to intervene on Miranda's behalf and was also kicked. Pro boxer Randall Bailey also came to Miranda's defense and had to be restrained.
BoxingScene was told that Alexander tried to jump out of the ring and was grabbed by security. Security escorted him out of the arena. Some sources have said that he is being taken to a local jail. There is a possible fine being discussed for Arthur in the amount of $100,000."

Really sucks about Miranda he really is in a class just better then him.

The guys an exciting fighter.

About AA, congrats to him but I still think he has a shitty style of fighting. He waits around too long and goes in long moments of inactivity someone with good skills will capatilize on that and exploit it.

I'm sorry but that style that he has is shit. However he makes up for it in power but how far will that power carry him?

I missed this fight. But it sounds like Abraham owned Miranda. To stop him so quickly is impressive. A Pavlik fight does sound most tempting.

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His brother showed no class!!

Miranda Hit by Alex Abraham, Arrested? Abraham Fined? - Boxing News

"BoxingScene/MaxBoxing.com has been told by several sources live at the Hard Rock in Florida, that after Edison Miranda was knocked down for the third time by Arthur Abraham and the fight was stopped, Arthur's brother Alexander Abraham, the undefeated junior middleweight, kicked Miranda while he was still down and being checked by the ring doctor.
When Miranda was struck, a brief scuffle took place. The ring doctor tried to intervene on Miranda's behalf and was also kicked. Pro boxer Randall Bailey also came to Miranda's defense and had to be restrained.
BoxingScene was told that Alexander tried to jump out of the ring and was grabbed by security. Security escorted him out of the arena. Some sources have said that he is being taken to a local jail. There is a possible fine being discussed for Arthur in the amount of $100,000."

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Man that's not only crazy stupid, but cold-hearted:mad: I'm fixing to watch the fight again, want to see if I can catch his brother doing that b.s.

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His brother showed no class!!

Miranda Hit by Alex Abraham, Arrested? Abraham Fined? - Boxing News

"BoxingScene/MaxBoxing.com has been told by several sources live at the Hard Rock in Florida, that after Edison Miranda was knocked down for the third time by Arthur Abraham and the fight was stopped, Arthur's brother Alexander Abraham, the undefeated junior middleweight, kicked Miranda while he was still down and being checked by the ring doctor.
When Miranda was struck, a brief scuffle took place. The ring doctor tried to intervene on Miranda's behalf and was also kicked. Pro boxer Randall Bailey also came to Miranda's defense and had to be restrained.
BoxingScene was told that Alexander tried to jump out of the ring and was grabbed by security. Security escorted him out of the arena. Some sources have said that he is being taken to a local jail. There is a possible fine being discussed for Arthur in the amount of $100,000."

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What a classless act of cowardness.
Kicking him while he is down.
How I hope he gets datained without bail so they can pass his ass around in jail for one night only special...
Some great American legislature law :bananasex:

Clearly I would HOPE Arthur is better then that and I sure hope Arthur had nothing to do with it.

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Really sucks about Miranda he really is in a class just better then him.

The guys an exciting fighter.

About AA, congrats to him but I still think he has a shitty style of fighting. He waits around too long and goes in long moments of inactivity someone with good skills will capatilize on that and exploit it.

I'm sorry but that style that he has is shit. However he makes up for it in power but how far will that power carry him?

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He really reminds me of Winky with that guard he has and long inactivity between offense

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I missed this fight. But it sounds like Abraham owned Miranda. To stop him so quickly is impressive. A Pavlik fight does sound most tempting.

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Miles aside from the 3 knockdowns.

Miranda out-punched and out landed Abraham.
Abraham fought almost the entire fight in defense mode with his hands up in a peek-a-boo style. Only shooting his right hand once or twice a round until round 4 where he just let off.

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I missed this fight. But it sounds like Abraham owned Miranda. To stop him so quickly is impressive. A Pavlik fight does sound most tempting.

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Miles aside from the 3 knockdowns.

Miranda out-punched and out landed Abraham.
Abraham fought almost the entire fight in defense mode with his hands up in a peek-a-boo style. Only shooting his right hand once or twice a round until round 4 where he just let off.

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That was clearly part of Abraham's game plan though. He was either measuring Miranda or letting him tire himself out. Miranda couldn't land shit while Abraham had his guard up.

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His brother showed no class!!

Miranda Hit by Alex Abraham, Arrested? Abraham Fined? - Boxing News

"BoxingScene/MaxBoxing.com has been told by several sources live at the Hard Rock in Florida, that after Edison Miranda was knocked down for the third time by Arthur Abraham and the fight was stopped, Arthur's brother Alexander Abraham, the undefeated junior middleweight, kicked Miranda while he was still down and being checked by the ring doctor.
When Miranda was struck, a brief scuffle took place. The ring doctor tried to intervene on Miranda's behalf and was also kicked. Pro boxer Randall Bailey also came to Miranda's defense and had to be restrained.
BoxingScene was told that Alexander tried to jump out of the ring and was grabbed by security. Security escorted him out of the arena. Some sources have said that he is being taken to a local jail. There is a possible fine being discussed for Arthur in the amount of $100,000."

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What a classless act of cowardness.
Kicking him while he is down.
How I hope he gets datained without bail so they can pass his ass around in jail for one night only special...
Some great American legislature law :bananasex:

Clearly I would HOPE Arthur is better then that and I sure hope Arthur had nothing to do with it.

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Yeah if his brother did indeed do that, he needs a slap in the teeth. Abraham came over here to impress and that he did. His brother may have tarnished a great night if these allegations are true.

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His brother showed no class!!

Miranda Hit by Alex Abraham, Arrested? Abraham Fined? - Boxing News

"BoxingScene/MaxBoxing.com has been told by several sources live at the Hard Rock in Florida, that after Edison Miranda was knocked down for the third time by Arthur Abraham and the fight was stopped, Arthur's brother Alexander Abraham, the undefeated junior middleweight, kicked Miranda while he was still down and being checked by the ring doctor.
When Miranda was struck, a brief scuffle took place. The ring doctor tried to intervene on Miranda's behalf and was also kicked. Pro boxer Randall Bailey also came to Miranda's defense and had to be restrained.
BoxingScene was told that Alexander tried to jump out of the ring and was grabbed by security. Security escorted him out of the arena. Some sources have said that he is being taken to a local jail. There is a possible fine being discussed for Arthur in the amount of $100,000."

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What a classless act of cowardness.
Kicking him while he is down.
How I hope he gets datained without bail so they can pass his ass around in jail for one night only special...
Some great American legislature law :bananasex:

Clearly I would HOPE Arthur is better then that and I sure hope Arthur had nothing to do with it.

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I hope Arthur kicks his brothers a##. He will when the fine for $100,000 gets mailed to them:p

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I was wrong in my prediction of the fight... It is true everytime Edison has stepped up he has fallen short, that still does not change my opinion of his power and excitement factor.. Edison will have his moments but will never be an elite unfortunately.

Abraham showed that he is well rounded, and I think a fight with Pavlik is more important than Calzaghe... I would really question Kelly if he moved up to 168 when clearly someone has a big problem with his claim to the middleweight crown and I'm not convinced either that a Pavlik KO is a foregone conclusion... Arthur is the shorter accurate puncher with a worlds better defense.. Abraham is the right fight for Pavlik not Joe Cal..

And as my boy Johnny Kickass stated, Arthur was all class and is welcome in the USA anytime he wants..

Congrats Arthur Abraham

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Actually I meant you showing real class as a Miranda fan for giving Abraham credit...

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Really sucks about Miranda he really is in a class just better then him.

The guys an exciting fighter.

About AA, congrats to him but I still think he has a shitty style of fighting. He waits around too long and goes in long moments of inactivity someone with good skills will capatilize on that and exploit it.

I'm sorry but that style that he has is shit. However he makes up for it in power but how far will that power carry him?

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Exactly...in his earlier fights he boxed more these days he depends way to much on his power...But still good win for AA...

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His brother showed no class!!

Miranda Hit by Alex Abraham, Arrested? Abraham Fined? - Boxing News

"BoxingScene/MaxBoxing.com has been told by several sources live at the Hard Rock in Florida, that after Edison Miranda was knocked down for the third time by Arthur Abraham and the fight was stopped, Arthur's brother Alexander Abraham, the undefeated junior middleweight, kicked Miranda while he was still down and being checked by the ring doctor.
When Miranda was struck, a brief scuffle took place. The ring doctor tried to intervene on Miranda's behalf and was also kicked. Pro boxer Randall Bailey also came to Miranda's defense and had to be restrained.
BoxingScene was told that Alexander tried to jump out of the ring and was grabbed by security. Security escorted him out of the arena. Some sources have said that he is being taken to a local jail. There is a possible fine being discussed for Arthur in the amount of $100,000."

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Alexander is an idiot...

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I missed this fight. But it sounds like Abraham owned Miranda. To stop him so quickly is impressive. A Pavlik fight does sound most tempting.

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Miles aside from the 3 knockdowns.

Miranda out-punched and out landed Abraham.
Abraham fought almost the entire fight in defense mode with his hands up in a peek-a-boo style. Only shooting his right hand once or twice a round until round 4 where he just let off.

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I need to see this. Sounds like quite a fight. I havent actually seen that much of Abraham.

Mundine is chasing a fight with Abraham this year, his speed will trouble King Arthur. I suspect a Pavlik V Abraham fight will now be made instead.

That's a biatch move by Arthur's brother, that's for sure, but Arthur shouldn't be fined for $100,000 for his brothers actions.

Great win by Abraham. Gets lot of credit for coming to the US and taking care of bizness

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I missed this fight. But it sounds like Abraham owned Miranda. To stop him so quickly is impressive. A Pavlik fight does sound most tempting.

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Miles aside from the 3 knockdowns.

Miranda out-punched and out landed Abraham.
Abraham fought almost the entire fight in defense mode with his hands up in a peek-a-boo style. Only shooting his right hand once or twice a round until round 4 where he just let off.

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I need to see this. Sounds like quite a fight. I havent actually seen that much of Abraham.

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miles,
I've seen plenty of AA in my time. I used to be HIGH on him around 2004/5 and when he picked up the title I tought he was unstopable. I mean the guy was fierce and just came to fight then somewhere along the Shannon Taylor & Kofi Jantuah fight something changed not sure what but he just backed off and he started fighting different. He would just stand there much like he did tonight just starring at his opponent. I really don't understand how he's made it this far. Well actually I do it's his power that has helped him.
If he really want's to be at the top hes gonna have to box more cause it's gonna take something more then power to beat elite fighters.

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That's a biatch move by Arthur's brother, that's for sure, but Arthur shouldn't be fined for $100,000 for his brothers actions.

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If Arthurs brother was part of the Corner men then he will be fined.

If he wasn't then I'm sure Arthur wont be fined for that.
Then again, I don't think Arthur brother has 100 g's lying around his house. ;D
So in the end whether they fine his direct or his brother the money will more the likely come out from Arthurs account.

You can pick your friends, but you can't pick your relatives.

Sucks at times...

Miranda got out-smarted. Great game plan by Abraham and his corner. From round 1-2, I could tell the King was up to something.

Great gameplan by Abraham, he was facing a guy that had obviously hit him with shots hard enough in the first fight to break his jaw, so he did the right thing by fighting defensively for the first round, found his rhythm, and then took his shots when they came. Alll credit to Abraham for using his head and taking apart Miranda the way he did.

I aint seen the fight but I thought Pantera would win. Probs to Abraham seems like he done well.

Congrats to Abraham too, he was quiet for the past 2 years. Last night he let his fists do the talking. Ouch for Miranda where is he going now:-\
I wanna see a Pavlik-Abraham showdown!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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That's a biatch move by Arthur's brother, that's for sure, but Arthur shouldn't be fined for $100,000 for his brothers actions.

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If Arthurs brother was part of the Corner men then he will be fined.

If he wasn't then I'm sure Arthur wont be fined for that.
Then again, I don't think Arthur brother has 100 g's lying around his house. ;D
So in the end whether they fine his direct or his brother the money will more the likely come out from Arthurs account.

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Alexander is not apart of his official corner team.

But I read this morning that Arthur is being fined $100,000 for failure to control his entourage. If Arthur does not pay the fine, he will be banned from fighting in the US until he pays the fine.

BTW, Alexander was arrested by the Seminole Tribal Police and then turned over to the Broward County Sheriffs and taken to a local jail where he was awaiting bail on Saturday night. The rumor is, that he kicked him in the head. What an idiot!

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Originally Posted by Diane

That's a biatch move by Arthur's brother, that's for sure, but Arthur shouldn't be fined for $100,000 for his brothers actions.

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If Arthurs brother was part of the Corner men then he will be fined.

If he wasn't then I'm sure Arthur wont be fined for that.
Then again, I don't think Arthur brother has 100 g's lying around his house. ;D
So in the end whether they fine his direct or his brother the money will more the likely come out from Arthurs account.

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Alexander is not apart of his official corner team.

But I read this morning that Arthur is being fined $100,000 for failure to control his entourage. If Arthur does not pay the fine, he will be banned from fighting in the US until he pays the fine.

BTW, Alexander was arrested by the Seminole Tribal Police and then turned over to the Broward County Sheriffs and taken to a local jail where he was awaiting bail on Saturday night. The rumor is, that he kicked him in the head. What an idiot!

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Well...I rewatched the fight and Alexander came into the ring embraced his brother and then went over to Miranda,who was still sitting on the floor...Alexander then said something to Miranda after that the kick must have happened,but you could only see his upperbody not his legs...I doubt seriously the kick went to the head and from the look of it was some petty kick in anger to Mirandas leg...lets not forget that Miranda had a long campaign of trash talk against Arthur and being a born Armenian they take this very seriously if family members are attacked that way and Alexander seems to me like a very emotional type of person...I don't say this to defend Alexanders cowardly kick against Miranda,but just to clearify the situation somewhat...

Lucky he got the ko because i had Miranda winning all 3 rounds, before the final 4th.

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Lucky he got the ko because i had Miranda winning all 3 rounds, before the final 4th.

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You do realize that the fight was scheduled for 12 rnds...do you ?!?

BTW...I thought Abraham won the 3rd rnd...

I liken Miranda to a golf ball. If he hits you there is a good chance you'll wind up in the ER. If you hit him he goes flying weightlessly through the air and bounces into a hole he can't get out of.


One of those fluorescent orange golf balls...

What a way to make a statement....welcome to America Mr.Abraham...Awesome display of ring smarts and execution in eye opening fashion....:o Exploited Miranda every step!

I hope I read this wrong but It sounds like they are looking to make A fight with Raul Marquez who turned back the clock in good upset win over Lorenzo in Middle weight Title eliminator Last night ???.......If that comes off ,A great fairwell payday for Respected Marquez but I hope his kids and family will not be watching.Abraham would dismantle too tough face first Raul brutally and then we wish and demand a Meeting with Pavlik....what a fight there!!!

I was pretty surprised when Abraham started decking Miranda. Very impressive win for him. I mean DAMN!

Gotta feel sorry for Miranda though cus I'm a fan, and that was embarassing to get TKO'd like that by Abraham after their first fight.

He'll be back though. Needs to work on some things though it looks like.

Abraham vs. Pavlik is THE fight. Lets see it get made.

Abraham came, saw and conquered. I dont think many people expected him to end it so fast and in such decisive manner.

I thought he would win, but remember thinking the first two rounds that his inactivity might end up costing him the fight.

Then in the third he landed two hard counters that looked like got to Miranda.

Going into the 4th I think I was about to make a post about how inactive Abraham was when he KTFO of Miranda. Go figure.

Good thing you did not take my rep/sig bet offers JT Rock :)

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Abraham came, saw and conquered. I dont think many people expected him to end it so fast and in such decisive manner.

I thought he would win, but remember thinking the first two rounds that his inactivity might end up costing him the fight.

Then in the third he landed two hard counters that looked like got to Miranda.

Going into the 4th I think I was about to make a post about how inactive Abraham was when he KTFO of Miranda. Go figure.

Good thing you did not take my rep/sig bet offers JT Rock :)

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Yes I did bro.... I owe you 500 reps but you get bonus rep for my punch power ;)

That was a great fight , and Abraham looked very formidable..........;D