ok i was looking for gyms to start working out and train and i stumble on this guy http://www.boxrec.com/list_bouts.php...=976&cat=boxer he said he has seen me fight and he want to train me for free
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ok i was looking for gyms to start working out and train and i stumble on this guy http://www.boxrec.com/list_bouts.php...=976&cat=boxer he said he has seen me fight and he want to train me for free
Please find another forum to annoy with your crappy career as an "opponent for club fighters".Quote:
Originally Posted by kid_thunder
Your boxing career and your post equally suck.
I feel a bit bad now actually. Was only joking but probably shouldn't.
:lol: who is this guy amat?
He has been KO'ed quite a few times maybe affected his brain or eye sight or something, take it man you need all the help you can get, watched a few seconds of your you tube fight, soz couldn't take anymore of it. Good for you you must have big balls to get in the ring time and time again, bit of advice you may do better if you learn how to box, maybe this guy will help you with that. Good Luck
Sorry the attention isn't on you 24 hours a day, but this is a "discuss anything" forum and I'm not breaking forum rules. If you don't like the thread? then go away! I don't remember inviting you here anywayQuote:
Originally Posted by lance UppercutPlease find another forum to annoy with your crappy career as an "opponent for club fighters".Quote:
Originally Posted by kid_thunder
Your boxing career and your post equally suck.
So since you are too stupid to start your own thread you pollute mine with your low IQ bullying. You're just trying to start something. If there is something that you think is more interesting then the subject in this thread , then start a thread about it!!
Here's a hint Einstein, next time don't be so obvious when you re jealous of someone. I'm sorry you have no friends sad little boy, now go away.
:lolhaha:Quote:
Originally Posted by lance UppercutPlease find another forum to annoy with your crappy career as an "opponent for club fighters".Quote:
Originally Posted by kid_thunder
Your boxing career and your post equally suck.
Ok why doesn't everyone just fuck off with all the hating on Andrew.
So what he's been in a youtube fight he's still entitled to respect on the forum.
From his threads since he's joined here I can't find a single inappropriate thing he has said so why does everyone judge him on videos he made on youtube before he was even on this site.
Besides before he came on here everyone was passing the vids around on the main boxing board getting a good laugh out of the whole thing, now everyone acts like they are above it all and had no interest.
The Zelenoff Hartley fight attracted more debate and postings on here than did the De La Hoya Forbes fight the same night so don't all get on your high horses now and pretend you were never interested in the whole debate.
I personally don't care one bit that Andrew isn't a world class fighter, he's still got a pro record which is more than ANY other regular poster on this site can boast.
Ok he's lost 13 but he's still won 2 which to my knowledge is still 2 more than the entire rest of this forum combined :rolleyes:
Andrew don't worry about the haters mate, as far as I'm concerned you're still a professional boxer trying to improve and if we start judging people on how talented they are than half of the forum members would have been banned long ago myself included.
Good luck with the training, I hope you get someone to train you and can even up your record a bit in time.
you mean to tell me his the guy zelonoff fought :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Bilbo
yes i am. my name is andrew kid thunder hartley
kool you did exactly what everybody wanted to do, and that was kick zelenoff's ass.Quote:
Originally Posted by kid_thunder
do you want to be with the baggins clan by the way? ;D
Come on Rains he's not that sad :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Julius Rainkool you did exactly what everybody wanted to do, and that was kick zelenoff's ass.Quote:
Originally Posted by kid_thunder
do you want to be with the baggins clan by the way? ;D
Mind you it would be hilarious if we could get him.
Just out of spite then you know VD would try and recruit Zelenoff :)
Well we can brag about having a pro fighter in our clan, Come on Andrew join the Baggins Clan. Im sure bilbo can find you a great role to play ;DQuote:
Originally Posted by BilboCome on Rains he's not that sad :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Julius Rainkool you did exactly what everybody wanted to do, and that was kick zelenoff's ass.Quote:
Originally Posted by kid_thunder
do you want to be with the baggins clan by the way? ;D
Mind you it would be hilarious if we could get him.
Just out of spite then you know VD would try and recruit Zelenoff :)
what is the baggins clanQuote:
Originally Posted by Julius RainWell we can brag about having a pro fighter in our clan, Come on Andrew join the Baggins Clan. Im sure bilbo can find you a great role to play ;DQuote:
Originally Posted by BilboCome on Rains he's not that sad :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Julius Rain
Mind you it would be hilarious if we could get him.
Just out of spite then you know VD would try and recruit Zelenoff :)
Aww this poor Kid :-X...Just walks into em'..Bob & weave Andrew.....stay off the ropes
we're a group of guys in this forum, we joke around and have fun. You should really join us. we will begin to promote you on this forum if ever you join. we'll have your back and support you man ;D All you have to do is change your title under your user name and put in baggins clan, like us.Quote:
Originally Posted by kid_thunderwhat is the baggins clanQuote:
Originally Posted by Julius RainWell we can brag about having a pro fighter in our clan, Come on Andrew join the Baggins Clan. Im sure bilbo can find you a great role to play ;DQuote:
Originally Posted by Bilbo
I was just joking btw, you beating Zelenoff actually made a night I had in my life that has to mean something.
Do you know anything about this guy's ability to train fighters? I wouldn't worry about his record, it's in no way indicative of his ability to train. Did he say why he offered to train you?
he saw me fight and he thinks he can help me fix my problems
try it bro, maybe you will benefit from it.Quote:
Originally Posted by kid_thunder
It can't hurt to try it out. Do you have a trainer right now that you would have to abandon in order to train with this guy?Quote:
Originally Posted by kid_thunder
no i do not
Then try it out, nothing bad can come of it. If you are serious about improving your record, and I'm sure you are, you'll need a decent trainer. Give it a shot and let us know how it goes.Quote:
Originally Posted by kid_thunder
One other thing, pay no attention to the guys who are taking shots at you and insulting you. The regular posters here are normally very classy and respectful, I don't know why some people feel that they have the right to take shots at you when you are posting in a genuine manner.
thats what i was trying to figure out i didnt disrespect anyone ............about the trainer he fought george foreman and went 6rds with him he must know somthing right
I would assume he knows something about boxing, yeah. Give it a shot, even if it doesn't work out, there's no harm in trying.Quote:
Originally Posted by kid_thunder
Well,I remember him,and in all honesty,and Ive said it before,you do need a trainer. You could do alot worse for yourself. Your young enough that your style issues can be fixed. This guy has been in there with some pretty big names,Golata,Moorer,Berbick,Foreman,Dokes,Snipes,T ucker,if he isnt punchy now,he must have learned something in there.
Id say go for it
Definately go for it - for free too. Can't beat that.
Andrew.
I don't know if you're going to read this, but by all means try the trainer out.
You must get with a trainer, before you do yourself injury in the gym or the ring.
You have nothing to lose here by trying out a new trainer. Here's the kool-aid test, spar with someone you regularly spar with, write down how you did. Train with this guy for a month and then spar with the same guy you sparred with before, see if it makes a difference.
I'd like to reiterate you have nothing to lose man.
Hey i just watched your fight against zellenof. i seen you had a belt what was it? dont worry bout your record keep your chin up no actually keep it down. just muckin about it takes alot to go through the ropes and not everyone can do it. You are brave as are all boxers. But you do need work and getting a trainer is a good start good luck and well done for beating that absolute twat zelenof.
I'm pretty new here and don't know what went on with this zelenoff guy, or am i raking up things that dont need bringing back up, if so sorry.
Also by the way to kid thunder fair play to you mate (and to anyone) who has the balls to step inbetween those ropes, like said in an above post your'e a proffesional boxer thats more than most people can say and is a dream for many people. Good luck in the future & keep us informed of how you do
A large part of why Andrew got so much flack is because he is/was associated with the likes of that goof Zelenoff. Charlie Zelenoff is merely a troll who happened to end up on a boxing board thinking he was hard. There are some really funny posts about it...and if ya have 100 + more posts you can even see where it all began a few years back right here on saddoboxing. Hilarious stuff.
So because of that we heard of someone we would never of known about, Andrew Hartley, a person who called Charlie on his many threats and as a result even helped Charlie get a licence and instead of still being keyboard warriors...they actually ended up in a ring in some place in Arkansas? We all got to see the fight, and we laughed, and we cheered, and ultimately what happened was Charlie was exposed for the fraud he was. Not only was he NOT hard, he was a total chicken shit who kept spitting out the gumshield every time he got tapped. (haha @ you Charlie :p)
Also though, we learned about Andrew. This person whom we never would have known. Never fought amateur. Never trained. Never had a trainer or any formal training, but yet had 14 professional fights. Alot of people cried farce and fraud and mockery, and I was also one of them.
I have since started to gain respect for Andrew. Certainly not for his skill and dedication to the sport, but for his reasons for doing it. The man has 6 children and fights for the few extra dollars it provides to help his family. And also, because he just likes stepping thru the ropes, and exchanging blows.
I don't think it is the right path to becoming a professional boxer, but I do think it is for the right reasons. So I hope very much that you take any kind of training you can find Andrew from wherever you can. And I hope you continue to train and give yourself and the sport more respect then you have gotten of late. You have a lot more from me lately and I thank you, for being humble and asking for it, and for trying.
And I wish Good Luck to you, sir.
I think anyone who doesnt respect Mr Hartleys reasons for climbing in to the ropes is a c***
You tell me how it feels when you can feel your nose crunch,and then rip on a guy
And yes,it reverberates through your entire skull when it gets mushed .
So screw it, the guys got the balls to get in there, and he has the guts to ask for help when he needs it
You should be able to learn something new from him.Quote:
Originally Posted by kid_thunder
Dude, there has to be an easier way to make money, what you get paid a couple of hundred bucks, stop wasting your time man and get a proper job, they always need delivery drivers at pizza hut, or servers at McDonalds, the only thing boxing is going to get you is brain damaged, there is no glory or pride in getting your face smashed in every couple of weeks. All the new trainer is going to get you is beaten up even more, watch your youtube video again man, you ain't no boxer.... You guys can mother him as much as you want, he is not doing anyone any favours including himself, maybe your kids would prefer to reconise you when you are older and vice versa, there are other options.
BullshitQuote:
Originally Posted by Gemandad
He's young enough he can be worked out,and its a hell of alot more then "a couple of hundred bucks" and even if it was just that,thats a full tank of oil for the winter.
Appalachia is not exactly living the high life. And on top of that,hell if I had him in my stable I could sort him out pretty quickly. His hand speed isnt bad,and he's got heart to beat the band
Ha Ha who are you a magician, good hand speed mmm, do you know what you are talking about??? There is no way he is getting more than $1000 bucks a fight, think working at MCdonalds would pay more per month. Stop encouraging this idiot making a fool of himselfQuote:
Originally Posted by Trainer MonkeyBullshitQuote:
Originally Posted by Gemandad
He's young enough he can be worked out,and its a hell of alot more then "a couple of hundred bucks" and even if it was just that,thats a full tank of oil for the winter.
Appalachia is not exactly living the high life. And on top of that,hell if I had him in my stable I could sort him out pretty quickly. His hand speed isnt bad,and he's got heart to beat the band
Are you a mouth breathing drooler?Quote:
Originally Posted by GemandadHa Ha who are you a magician, good hand speed mmm, do you know what you are talking about??? There is no way he is getting more than $1000 bucks a fight, think working at MCdonalds would pay more per month. Stop encouraging this idiot making a fool of himselfQuote:
Originally Posted by Trainer MonkeyBullshitQuote:
Originally Posted by Gemandad
He's young enough he can be worked out,and its a hell of alot more then "a couple of hundred bucks" and even if it was just that,thats a full tank of oil for the winter.
Appalachia is not exactly living the high life. And on top of that,hell if I had him in my stable I could sort him out pretty quickly. His hand speed isnt bad,and he's got heart to beat the band
1000$ down there is a small freaking fortune
His punches loop to much,and he does need work,but that can be worked with,and fixed
The thing is even if you believe in all this, you should realize Hartley would be better off with a trainer than without. Which is why, as people suggest, he should try it out.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gemandad
Hell, I dont even box, but the idea of being trained by a guy who once shared a ring with George Foreman, Michael Moorer and Andrew Golota seem pretty interesting to me also.
Am I a what?? Oh I get it throwing insults now, Hey put your money where your mouth is get this guy and board, am willing to bet he will get his ass kicked again and againQuote:
Originally Posted by Trainer MonkeyAre you a mouth breathing drooler?Quote:
Originally Posted by GemandadHa Ha who are you a magician, good hand speed mmm, do you know what you are talking about??? There is no way he is getting more than $1000 bucks a fight, think working at MCdonalds would pay more per month. Stop encouraging this idiot making a fool of himselfQuote:
Originally Posted by Trainer Monkey
1000$ down there is a small freaking fortune
His punches loop to much,and he does need work,but that can be worked with,and fixed