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Manny Pacquiao...A little too big for his boots?
I love Manny and I think hes an amazing fighter. Hes one of my favourite at this momment in time. David Diaz who is a natural lightweight is fighting him this weekend as you all know. I just think that if Manny really cant push this guy and swarm him like he usually does in fights where can he go after this win? Ricky Hatton would certainly be out of the question, any other natural lightweight will also be out of the question. Ive got a feeling that this fight is going to go the distance. Its going to be a hard 12 rounds for Manny but he cant see it coming. Maybe im wrong here but I just feel that he belongs at 130.
For me 130 is where Manny Pacquiao will define his record; Juan Guzman, Edwin Valero, Juan Manuel Marquez, Robert Guerrero, Steve Luevano and you never know Chris John. These fights I feel well be for the better of his career instead of chasing fights like Ricky Hatton. I loved it when Manny Pacquiao use to go into these fights like his whole life and country pride was on the line. Im not saying hes not like that anymore but I just feel that hes gone a bit too much superstar, maybe its just my opinion on him but when he won the second Morales fight I just feel like a bit of his overall desire has gone a bit. Thats why I dont see sense in the Ricky Hatton showdown. I really want him to get back to 130 and define.
Thats just my feelings, but at the end of the day any fight hes in will be highly entertaining.
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Yea I think it is okay for us to all be talking about who pac is fighting next, moving up and what makes sense and so on, but get worried when I see him doing that. Bit presumptous with a fight ahead of you.
But I did see him singing the Mexican national anthem just a few days ago, so maybe he is back in the zone. lol
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Tam Seddon
I love Manny and I think hes an amazing fighter. Hes one of my favourite at this momment in time. David Diaz who is a natural lightweight is fighting him this weekend as you all know. I just think that if Manny really cant push this guy and swarm him like he usually does in fights where can he go after this win? Ricky Hatton would certainly be out of the question, any other natural lightweight will also be out of the question. Ive got a feeling that this fight is going to go the distance. Its going to be a hard 12 rounds for Manny but he cant see it coming. Maybe im wrong here but I just feel that he belongs at 130.
For me 130 is where Manny Pacquiao will define his record; Juan Guzman, Edwin Valero, Juan Manuel Marquez, Robert Guerrero, Steve Luevano and you never know Chris John. These fights I feel well be for the better of his career instead of chasing fights like Ricky Hatton. I loved it when Manny Pacquiao use to go into these fights like his whole life and country pride was on the line. Im not saying hes not like that anymore but I just feel that hes gone a bit too much superstar, maybe its just my opinion on him but when he won the second Morales fight I just feel like a bit of his overall desire has gone a bit. Thats why I dont see sense in the Ricky Hatton showdown. I really want him to get back to 130 and define.
Thats just my feelings, but at the end of the day any fight hes in will be highly entertaining.
I think he should carry his weight well at least at 135, 140 may be another story, but I will reserve final judgement until after this weekend. I feel fairly confident he will do well against Diaz though.
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We will find out next saturday. David Diaz love to bullrush his opponents. And Pac said he's gonna catch him coming in.
If he lose or fail to get a convincing win this weekend, then he should go back to 130.
I think Manny has better chin, faster hands, hits harder, and a little techically better than David.
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A shot to bits Morales beat Diaz (IMO), and decked him to boot.
He's too easy to hit. Even if Pacs power is slightly diminished the speed wont be far off.
Pac will batter him something chronic.
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The mania ice will ice david coming in, plus pac is an underrated counter puncher. In the jmm rematch ironically pac landed the more devestating counter punch.
I think pac will be more comfortable at 135, he does not have to lose the extra pounds. this way he can reserve and preserve energy. Unlike draining then gaining. We'll see though, but through pacs career he hasnt so far look bad in his first fight in a new/higher division. This Fight should be interesting.
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Julius Rain
I think pac will be more comfortable at 135, he does not have to lose the extra pounds. this way he can reserve and preserve energy. Unlike draining then gaining.
I agree.
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Ive seen recent pics of Pac and thought "god you are looking old". He needs to strike while the iron is still hot. He needs to stayaway from 140 though. Hatton will kill him.
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Julius Rain
The manila ice will ice david coming in, plus pac is an underrated counter puncher. In the jmm rematch ironically pac landed the more devestating counter punch.
I think Diaz will be more the attacker on this one. And Pac will be the counter puncher.
ESPN - Voracious PacMan racks up accolades as he packs on pounds - Boxing
"I think that my speed and my footwork will be the key to the fight," he (Pacquiao) predicted. "I think my power will still be there, but the key to my fight is my speed. Also, getting out of the way, because he is going to come at me, he is going to smother me. He likes to fight coming forward, so I have to counter him."
Difinitely the "Manila Ice" will play a big role.
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i think this fight really is going to be a very tough one for Manny. Not his hardest but it has the potential to be very tough. I agree we can only pass judgement till after the fight, but I just hope Manny see's that the money and legacy IMO is at 130, not 140.
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Pacquiao will batter Diaz no question, Pacquiao even though he is an aggressive fighter has some good boxing skills, and like Rains already pointed out is an underrated counter puncher, plus he has a lot more in his arsenal than the old version of Pacquiao jab, jab, straight left. Pacquiao has got some weaknesses that a good boxer can take advantage of but an aggressive brawler with no defense and no real skills, isn't going to trouble Pacquiao at all. Diaz isn't gonna know what has his him come Saturday night.
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Fenster
A shot to bits Morales beat Diaz (IMO), and decked him to boot.
He's too easy to hit. Even if Pacs power is slightly diminished the speed wont be far off.
Pac will batter him something chronic.
I think anyone who expects this to be a hard fight for PAc just hasn't seen Diaz fight Morales, or says so to make it seem like a signifigant victory when Pac wins. David Diaz is out of his league here.
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When you pound for pound number one you're allowed to be a little bit overconfident going into fights. I think he'll fight Hatton and risk a loss because of the money the fight would make.
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If this is PAC's last great win in his career, I will be at peace already. He has done enough for a hall of fame career. Getting his 4th belt in this 4th division is an all time great stat IMO.
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Pacquaio is way more than just a power puncher these days who comes forward throwing a ton of punches. Now he has a lot better timing, balance, counter punching. Look at the best punch he landed against Marquez was when Marquez was coming in. ALso Pacquaio by all accounts is having a hell of a time making 130.
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PAC said lately that he has this goal "drive for five"... This Saturday's fight will be the 4th one (if he is successful) and another belt at 140 as the 5th one to complete his "drive for five" goal.
Being champ in 5 weight divisions is more of a legacy than cleaning up the 130 or 135 divisions.
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Pavlik
If this is PAC's last great win in his career, I will be at peace already. He has done enough for a hall of fame career. Getting his 4th belt in this 4th division is an all time great stat IMO.
Not a bad boxing resume for a 29 year old fighter who started his career at 106.
:)
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SaddoBoxer
PAC said lately that he has this goal "drive for five"... This Saturday's fight will be the 4th one (if he is successful) and another belt at 140 as the 5th one to complete his "drive for five" goal.
Being champ in 5 weight divisions is more of a legacy than cleaning up the 130 or 135 divisions.
But thats where I disagree with you. I believe mannys most competative match ups can be found at 130 and possibley 135 if the elite fighters from 130 make their move upwards. I just feel a fight with Joan Guzman has to happen and another fight with Juan Manuel Marquez in the future. Those two fights alone do a lot more for me than a possible showdown with Ricky Hatton IMO. Im pretty set on this, but if Manny really does look impressive this weekend I may change my opinion. But that still doesnt stop me wanting those two fights.
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I'm still bitter he didn't match Marquez again.
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I'm still bitter he didn't match Marquez again.
Im not weve seen it twice already . Imo Marquez won both and they were pretty similar fights so let em fights someone else .
Diaz is pretty useless but useless guys have beaten Manny in the past . Pacs not invincible and Diaz can make it interesting in the late rounds.
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Hughesd
I'm still bitter he didn't match Marquez again.
Im not weve seen it twice already . Imo Marquez won both and they were pretty similar fights so let em fights someone else .
Diaz is pretty useless but useless guys have beaten Manny in the past . Pacs not invincible and Diaz can make it interesting in the late rounds.
...And Manny who got beaten by "useless guys" beat the shit out of your boy Barrera. ;)
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GAME
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Hughesd
I'm still bitter he didn't match Marquez again.
Im not weve seen it twice already . Imo Marquez won both and they were pretty similar fights so let em fights someone else .
Diaz is pretty useless but useless guys have beaten Manny in the past . Pacs not invincible and Diaz can make it interesting in the late rounds.
...And Manny who got beaten by "useless guys" beat the shit out of your boy Barrera. ;)
. . . and then got dominated by a washed up Morales ;D
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GAME
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GAME
Im not weve seen it twice already . Imo Marquez won both and they were pretty similar fights so let em fights someone else .
Diaz is pretty useless but useless guys have beaten Manny in the past . Pacs not invincible and Diaz can make it interesting in the late rounds.
...And Manny who got beaten by "useless guys" beat the shit out of your boy Barrera. ;)
. . . and then got dominated by a washed up Morales ;D
Dominated? I hope you're kidding.
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The neg rep you cockroaches keep giving me, really hurts my feelings :eek:
Losers :rolleyes:
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Re: Manny Pacquiao...A little too big for his boots?
"A little too big for his boots?" sounds like something that a mother tells her little mischievous son, not a phrase used when describing a punching machine.
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SE7EN
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Pavlik
If this is PAC's last great win in his career, I will be at peace already. He has done enough for a hall of fame career. Getting his 4th belt in this 4th division is an all time great stat IMO.
Not a bad boxing resume for a 29 year old fighter who started his career at 106.
:)
He's a beast... Gotta love em!
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GAME
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Hughesd
I'm still bitter he didn't match Marquez again.
Im not weve seen it twice already . Imo Marquez won both and they were pretty similar fights so let em fights someone else .
Diaz is pretty useless but useless guys have beaten Manny in the past . Pacs not invincible and Diaz can make it interesting in the late rounds.
So you're saying that Morales is useless? You really deserve some neg reps. Calling us cockroaches makes you deserve more neg reps in the future.
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GAME
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Hughesd
I'm still bitter he didn't match Marquez again.
Im not weve seen it twice already . Imo Marquez won both and they were pretty similar fights so let em fights someone else .
Diaz is pretty useless but useless guys have beaten Manny in the past . Pacs not invincible and Diaz can make it interesting in the late rounds.
JMM did not win the second fight. He came clsoe, but Pacman won it. The first fight I had it a draw. Also who besides MOrrales has beaten Pacman in roughly forever? Are you talking about when he was young and not even an adult yet?
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Taeth
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GAME
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Hughesd
I'm still bitter he didn't match Marquez again.
Im not weve seen it twice already . Imo Marquez won both and they were pretty similar fights so let em fights someone else .
Diaz is pretty useless but useless guys have beaten Manny in the past . Pacs not invincible and Diaz can make it interesting in the late rounds.
JMM did not win the second fight. He came clsoe, but Pacman won it. The first fight I had it a draw. Also who besides MOrrales has beaten Pacman in roughly forever? Are you talking about when he was young and not even an adult yet?
Just because you didn't think JMM won the 2nd fight doesn't mean he didn't deserve to win it, all the boxing experts i've seen thought Marquez won the fight and i thought Marquez won by 1 point, just like i thought Marquez won the 1st fight by 1 point.
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SE7EN
You've got to consider the shoes they're wearing. :)
I think 135lbs is the best weight division for Manny cause he really struggled making weight in his last couple of fights. That actually affected his performance. Expect to see a stronger Pacman this weekend.
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Taeth
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GAME
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Hughesd
I'm still bitter he didn't match Marquez again.
Im not weve seen it twice already . Imo Marquez won both and they were pretty similar fights so let em fights someone else .
Diaz is pretty useless but useless guys have beaten Manny in the past . Pacs not invincible and Diaz can make it interesting in the late rounds.
JMM did not win the second fight. He came clsoe, but Pacman won it. The first fight I had it a draw. Also who besides MOrrales has beaten Pacman in roughly forever?
Are you talking about when he was young and not even an adult yet
No im talking about when he was old and coming off his second loss to Barrera . Then he beat Pac then lost to Raheem . Face facts every time Pac fought Erik, Morales was coming off a loss . Hardly vintage Morales was it :rolleyes:
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GAME
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Hughesd
I'm still bitter he didn't match Marquez again.
Im not weve seen it twice already . Imo Marquez won both and they were pretty similar fights so let em fights someone else .
Diaz is pretty useless but useless guys have beaten Manny in the past . Pacs not invincible and Diaz can make it interesting in the late rounds.
So you're saying that Morales is useless? You really deserve some neg reps. Calling us cockroaches makes you deserve more neg reps in the future.
When I post on a Pac thread its like when Gordon Ramsey visits a dodgy restaurant . . . . . . . The cockroaches are exposed ;D
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GAME
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GAME
Im not weve seen it twice already . Imo Marquez won both and they were pretty similar fights so let em fights someone else .
Diaz is pretty useless but useless guys have beaten Manny in the past . Pacs not invincible and Diaz can make it interesting in the late rounds.
So you're saying that Morales is useless? You really deserve some neg reps. Calling us cockroaches makes you deserve more neg reps in the future.
When I post on a Pac thread its like when Gordon Ramsey visits a dodgy restaurant . . . . . . . The cockroaches are exposed ;D
WHY ARE YOU CALLING PACFANS COCKROACHES? :confused:
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GAME
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brucelee
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GAME
Im not weve seen it twice already . Imo Marquez won both and they were pretty similar fights so let em fights someone else .
Diaz is pretty useless but useless guys have beaten Manny in the past . Pacs not invincible and Diaz can make it interesting in the late rounds.
So you're saying that Morales is useless? You really deserve some neg reps. Calling us cockroaches makes you deserve more neg reps in the future.
When I post on a Pac thread its like when Gordon Ramsey visits a dodgy restaurant . . . . . . . The cockroaches are exposed ;D
This is an example of how anti-pacfans behave.:mad:
They would usually behave like a rabid dog before Pacquaio's fights.
You've been here for a while already GAME and you should know how to behave properly.
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brucelee
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GAME
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brucelee
So you're saying that Morales is useless? You really deserve some neg reps. Calling us cockroaches makes you deserve more neg reps in the future.
When I post on a Pac thread its like when Gordon Ramsey visits a dodgy restaurant . . . . . . . The cockroaches are exposed ;D
This is an example of how anti-pacfans behave.:mad:
They would usually behave like a rabid dog before Pacquaio's fights.
You've been here for a while already GAME and you should know how to behave properly.
Maybe Hyenas would better describe pacfans cuz they hang around in Packs ( excuse the pun ) and I get the same old neg rep messages from em all .
Anyway forget that. Lets just hope for a good fight 2mora . I think it will be !
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Look Game I rarely Sad click anyone. Hell I don't like Pac fans. But you are just ignorant. You fuck around some more posting silly posts with no merit I will sad click you into oblivion and lobby for some kindof treatment.
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boozeboxer
Look Game I rarely Sad click anyone. Hell I don't like Pac fans. But you are just ignorant. You fuck around some more posting silly posts with no merit I will sad click you into oblivion and lobby for some kindof treatment.
Wow . Youre hard sad clicking or neg repping ( whatever you losers call it. ) I happen to think your posts are useless too but what ya gonna do . Neg rep me ? ;D fag
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GAME
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boozeboxer
Look Game I rarely Sad click anyone. Hell I don't like Pac fans. But you are just ignorant. You fuck around some more posting silly posts with no merit I will sad click you into oblivion and lobby for some kindof treatment.
Wow . Youre hard sad clicking or neg repping ( whatever you losers call it. ) I happen to think your posts are useless too but what ya gonna do . Neg rep me ? ;D fag
Bring it over into the hidden boards if you want bro. No need clogging up the main boards with your stupid shit.
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boozeboxer
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GAME
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boozeboxer
Look Game I rarely Sad click anyone. Hell I don't like Pac fans. But you are just ignorant. You fuck around some more posting silly posts with no merit I will sad click you into oblivion and lobby for some kindof treatment.
Wow . Youre hard sad clicking or neg repping ( whatever you losers call it. ) I happen to think your posts are useless too but what ya gonna do . Neg rep me ? ;D fag
Bring it over into the hidden boards if you want bro. No need clogging up the main boards with your stupid shit.
I aint going anywhere to discuss stuff with you, queer boy.
