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I don't know when exactly this video was taken but imagine what could have been? Floyd is humble, soft-spoken, polite, confident (NOT COCKY!), and seemed to just enjoy teaching the viewers.
If he had stayed with this persona, he may have been one of the more beloved champions..
http://youtube.com/watch?v=Gl_l7P5T8qs
Oxymoron!
I don't think he deserves credit just for being polite and helpful to someone.Quote:
Originally Posted by caleoh12
I do. Look at who he isn't nice to and when it is exactly that he isn't nice. It's opponents, perhaps trainers and all leading up to a fight. After the fight he is always humble and I've never heard of anyone outside of clubgoers looking for trouble who has personally had a problem with him.
I have never minded Floyd Mayweather Jr's silly antics before fights i know its all just BS to hype the fight anyway, to my knowledge he has always given opponents respect after the fight. He gave Hatton a lot of respect, he gave Gatti a lot of respect. But to be honest i don't really care what he does outside the ring as long as he don't kill anyone or do anything extreme, i'll always be a fan of him inside the ring and thats what boxing is all about. Of course its good to have a nice guy like Kelly Pavlik but it doesn't really matter to me, as long as they do there job inside the ring thats all that counts IMO.
Id have to agree with this. I just got finished watching him fight Hatton and after the fight he went over to Hatton and acted like a normal person hugging him and what not. He could have been very popular imo if he didnt always try to hype himself by any means necessary.Quote:
Originally Posted by liquid
this video was probably taken before he was so wealthy he can buy anything
thats y hes not cocky, he looked very young in the vid
Didn't Mayweather have some legal issues for domestic violence and hitting some females in a club? Do those qualify as extreme?Quote:
Originally Posted by ICB
Yeah he had some legal problems with that.Quote:
Originally Posted by RicanDidn't Mayweather have some legal issues for domestic violence and hitting some females in a club? Do those qualify as extreme?Quote:
Originally Posted by ICB
Apparently a lot of my favorite fighters to watch in the ring could use some help when it comes to putting their hands on women.
Who doesn't?Quote:
Originally Posted by RicanDidn't Mayweather have some legal issues for domestic violence and hitting some females in a club? Do those qualify as extreme?Quote:
Originally Posted by ICB
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Originally Posted by Thread StealerYeah he had some legal problems with that.Quote:
Originally Posted by RicanDidn't Mayweather have some legal issues for domestic violence and hitting some females in a club? Do those qualify as extreme?Quote:
Originally Posted by ICB
Apparently a lot of my favorite fighters to watch in the ring could use some help when it comes to putting their hands on women.
To call Floyd Mayweather Jr. a wife-beater, is the same thing as calling Kobe Bryant a rapist.
Neither accusation was remotely close to the truth, and I'm pretty sure that the Kobe Bryant rape charge went a lot farther in the judicial system than the supposed Floyd Mayweather domestic violence charge.
In regards to celebrities and wealth blessed people, that usually means it's true without a doubt, and just proves that the celebrity/wealth blessed person has great lawyers and a lot of money to get a charge like that dropped..Quote:
Originally Posted by frozensolid_702Quote:
Originally Posted by Thread StealerYeah he had some legal problems with that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rican
Apparently a lot of my favorite fighters to watch in the ring could use some help when it comes to putting their hands on women.
To call Floyd Mayweather Jr. a wife-beater, is the same thing as calling Kobe Bryant a rapist.
Neither accusation was remotely close to the truth, and I'm pretty sure that the Kobe Bryant rape charge went a lot farther in the judicial system than the supposed Floyd Mayweather domestic violence charge.
However I agree with your point regarding Mayweather and a part of me hates him, apart of me knows he would be a decent person..
How he could be even relatively normal with a father like good old Roger is beyond me though..
I've heard from many sources that on a persoanl level, one to one, Floyd is as amiable a fellow as one could meet.
Kobe couldnt rape his way out of a wet paper bag. :pQuote:
Originally Posted by frozensolid_702
Out of context, yes. It wasn't in a club, though, it was in his house. Before the Gatti fight was made, apparently, the mother of at least one of his children was breaking things in his house. He didn't hit her, he restrained her and she charged him with hitting her. Gatti used this to his advantage. PBF had to plead no contest to get the fight made; a trial would have lost him the fight. And after the fact, she admitted he never hit her. I wouldn't qualify that as extreme.Quote:
Originally Posted by RicanDidn't Mayweather have some legal issues for domestic violence and hitting some females in a club? Do those qualify as extreme?Quote:
Originally Posted by ICB
Yeah, that would be impossible considering Floyd Sr. is his father and not his uncle Roger.Quote:
Originally Posted by DizasterIn regards to celebrities and wealth blessed people, that usually means it's true without a doubt, and just proves that the celebrity/wealth blessed person has great lawyers and a lot of money to get a charge like that dropped..Quote:
Originally Posted by frozensolid_702Quote:
Originally Posted by Thread Stealer
To call Floyd Mayweather Jr. a wife-beater, is the same thing as calling Kobe Bryant a rapist.
Neither accusation was remotely close to the truth, and I'm pretty sure that the Kobe Bryant rape charge went a lot farther in the judicial system than the supposed Floyd Mayweather domestic violence charge.
However I agree with your point regarding Mayweather and a part of me hates him, apart of me knows he would be a decent person..
How he could be even relatively normal with a father like good old Roger is beyond me though..
I've said it before here. On the Detroit leg of the De La Hoya-Mayweather promotional tour Floyd was as nice a human being as you could meet. He stayed well after Oscar had left, stayed so long, in fact, I had to leave so I could get home. There were no major newspapers around, just guys like me covering the presser for websites and such mixed in with a bunch of fans. A Mexican kid came over with a glove signed by Oscar and asked PBF to sign and at first he said he couldn't because Oscar had already. The boy looked crestfallen and said he didn't have another. Floyd considered a second and said, "Give it here," and signed it for the boy. That showed he had a bunch of class to me.Quote:
Originally Posted by hitmandonny
I've heard in the gym he's always the motivation. He spurs everyone on and makes it fun to be there.Quote:
Originally Posted by liquidI've said it before here. On the Detroit leg of the De La Hoya-Mayweather promotional tour Floyd was as nice a human being as you could meet. He stayed well after Oscar had left, stayed so long, in fact, I had to leave so I could get home. There were no major newspapers around, just guys like me covering the presser for websites and such mixed in with a bunch of fans. A Mexican kid came over with a glove signed by Oscar and asked PBF to sign and at first he said he couldn't because Oscar had already. The boy looked crestfallen and said he didn't have another. Floyd considered a second and said, "Give it here," and signed it for the boy. That showed he had a bunch of class to me.Quote:
Originally Posted by hitmandonny
I like that in a fighter.
I've met Floyd a couple times. He actually is nice and soft spoken. He's the type of guy who looks you in the eye and pays attention to what you are saying even if you're a nobody. He grew up in the gym and now I've heard takes the time to give young guys tips and such. When he gets around his entourage is when he can act cocky. His "Boyz" beat the crap out of Bouncer the other year at a local bar. It turns out Floyd had went to Middle and High School with the bouncer.
His pre fight talk is not anything crazy. He hasn't said anything more outrageous than a dozen other guys of this era. I think Roy Jones has been more disrespectful to opponents than Floyd and never gets sweated for it.
Floyd has done a lot for Grand Rapids. He gives to charity both his money and his time. He picked up the $162,000 tab for the Golden Gloves National Tourney this May. He'll be in town this weekend throwing a big multi venue event with Music and such. I won't be attending, but could probably get VIP if I wanted to hang with his crew, which i don't, not my thing.
People forget how bad he got robbed in the Olympics. He was dominant and was robbed in the semis. I think this really hurt him as much as it hurt Roy Jones. Both these fighters have used it as motivation, you have to take it, no ones gonna give it to you and once you have it everyone is gonna try to steal it. Floyd will fight again. He retired because Oscar wouldn't give him a 50-50 split. It was a blow to him, he had worked so hard to be boxing's top draw and here it was and he still could not get a 50/50 billing with Oscar. Even as a fan of Floyd's, I can still be objective and admit that Oscar is still the bigger draw. Floyd should have took the split he was offered.
No, Floyd isn't the draw and neither was Mosley. But I have to respect their argument. They both beat Oscar and they should have both been offered something closer to parity considering they had won. Anything less than 50% is what you would offer to the loser in a rematch.
the better side of floyd is when his being real, when he knows his dad is an ashole but he still has to respect him. I have a lot of respect for floyd about that cause I go through the same thing. So I know the feeling.
True, but if he had stayed with that persona no one would pay so much money to see him get beat :)Quote:
Originally Posted by caleoh12
I think floyd could of be beloved like SRL. the thug cocky persona doesn't work for him, it just pisses guys like me off cause I know his really not like that. like I said his better being real. people could be watching him to see him win not get ktfo.Quote:
Originally Posted by MajestyTrue, but if he had stayed with that persona no one would pay so much money to see him get beat :)Quote:
Originally Posted by caleoh12
Don't get me wrong. Floyd grew up tough in a very tough neighborhood. His home gym is in one of the worst neighborhoods you'll ever see. Shootings are nightly. You messed with Floyd on the street when he was y young and you were gonna get jacked up. You messed with his family and you were gonna get jacked up or probably shot. The Mayweathers are tough SOBs. Every last one of them has thugged it up when they had to. Jeff has whooped some serious but. Senior was running drugs with some serious people for years and did serious time for it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Julius RainI think floyd could of be beloved like SRL. the thug cocky persona doesn't work for him, it just pisses guys like me off cause I know his really not like that. like I said his better being real. people could be watching him to see him win not get ktfo.Quote:
Originally Posted by MajestyTrue, but if he had stayed with that persona no one would pay so much money to see him get beat :)Quote:
Originally Posted by caleoh12
Floyd's been close to gun deaths growing up, he's seen it all, but he has grown up and left that all behind and he still goes back into the neighborhood to try to do something positive. He has security who many think are over zealous, but some might not understand. When there is an incident of any sorts his people have to assume the guy has a gun and wants to hurt Floyd. Its just a fact of where he came from. Hell, I know haters from Pride gym who talk all kinds of mad shit about Floyd and they were probably his buddy growing up.