Best Fighter from Each US State

ESPN is doing a list of the best fighters from each state. (They started today by naming Jack Johnson the best fighter ever from Texas.) Let's try to put one together ourselves.

IMPORTANT: ESPN is doing their list by the state that a fighter "is associated with." So a guy like Ray Robinson counts for NY, instead of GA where he was actually born. Let's do our list by place of birth, it just makes it easier.

Alabama- Joe Louis
Alaska
Arizona- Carbajal
Arkansas
California
Colorado- Dempsey
Connecticut- Pep
Delaware-
Florida- Jones
Georgia- Robinson
Hawaii
Idaho-
Illinois
Indiana-
Iowa-
Kansas-
Kentucky- Ali
Louisiana-
Maine-
Maryland- Leonard
Massachusetts- Marciano
Michigan-
Minnesota-
Mississippi- Armstrong
Missouri-
Montana-
Nebraska-
Nevada-
New Hampshire-
New Jersey- Hagler
New Mexico-
New York-
North Carolina-
North Dakota- Virgil Hill
Ohio-
Oklahoma-
Oregon-
Pennsylvania- Greb
Rhode Island- Pazienza
South Carolina- Frazier
South Dakota-
Tennessee-
Texas- Johnson
Utah-
Vermont-
Virginia- Whitaker
Washington-
West Virginia-
Wisconsin-
Wyoming-

Michigan is tough with Thomas Hearns and PBF both being from there.
UNLESS you consider PBF to be from Las Vegas where he has resided for a while now.


For Arkansas I'm thinking Jermain Taylor would be a good candidate.

Maybe this will help get things for now.

Good thread. Seriously, not trying to be funny, but is Tye Fields the best Montana has offered?

This is going to be very hard but i'll give it ago.


Alabama- Joe Louis
Alaska
Arizona- Michael Carbajal
Arkansas
California
Colorado- Jack Dempsey
Connecticut- Willie Pep
Delaware-
Florida- Roy Jones
Georgia- Sugar Ray Robinson
Hawaii
Idaho-
Illinois
Indiana-
Iowa-
Kansas-
Kentucky- Muhammad Ali
Louisiana-
Maine-
Maryland- Joe Gans
Massachusetts- Rocky Marciano
Michigan- Stanely Ketchel
Minnesota-
Mississippi- Henry Armstrong
Missouri-
Montana-
Nebraska-
Nevada-
New Hampshire-
New Jersey- Marvin Hagler
New Mexico-
New York- Benny Leonard i think.
North Carolina-
North Dakota- Virgil Hill
Ohio-
Oklahoma-
Oregon-
Pennsylvania- Harry Greb
Rhode Island- Vinny Pazienza
South Carolina- Joe Frazier
South Dakota-
Tennessee-
Texas- Jack Johnson
Utah-
Vermont-
Virginia- Pernell Whitaker
Washington-
West Virginia-
Wisconsin-
Wyoming-


I'll do some more later can't think at all at the moment.

Arkansas - Sonny Liston
New York - Mike Tyson
Ohio - Kelly Pavlik


Can only think of these three now i will try more later

California- Oscar De La Hoya

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Michigan is tough with Thomas Hearns and PBF both being from there.
UNLESS you consider PBF to be from Las Vegas where he has resided for a while now.


For Arkansas I'm thinking Jermain Taylor would be a good candidate.

Maybe this will help get things for now.

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I think James Toney would argue with you;D

New York - Zab Judah
Nevada - Floyd Mayweather Jr. (Yes, I consider him from Las Vegas)

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New York - Zab Judah
Nevada - Floyd Mayweather Jr. (Yes, I consider him from Las Vegas)

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Judah better than Tyson?

Gotta give New York to Tyson

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New York - Zab Judah
Nevada - Floyd Mayweather Jr. (Yes, I consider him from Las Vegas)

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Judah better than Tyson?

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Is Judah better than the "before prison," Tyson? Not yet, but will be soon.

Is Judah better than the "after prison," Tyson? By a landslide.

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Originally Posted by killersheep

Michigan is tough with Thomas Hearns and PBF both being from there.
UNLESS you consider PBF to be from Las Vegas where he has resided for a while now.


For Arkansas I'm thinking Jermain Taylor would be a good candidate.

Maybe this will help get things for now.

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I think James Toney would argue with you;D

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Hmmm Toney vs. Hearns there is an interesting argument to be made for both. Hearns had tougher competition, titles at Welter, Light Middle, Middle, super Middle and Light Heavy. Toney had titles at Middle, Super Middle, Cruiser and Heavy.

Hmm I have a hard time finding something that justifies Toney over the real Hitman.

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New York - Zab Judah
Nevada - Floyd Mayweather Jr. (Yes, I consider him from Las Vegas)

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Judah better than Tyson?

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Is Judah better than the "before prison," Tyson? Not yet, but will be soon.

Is Judah better than the "after prison," Tyson? By a landslide.

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He's sure taking his sweet time about it:rolleyes:

Damn! that's gonna take a while... :D


I just remembered something anyone remember which fighters (I think it was 3) who all grew up on the same block or something like that. I remember reading that somewhere but can't remember the exact details.

Alaskas gonna be blank. :D
Rhode Island - Manfredo :D

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Damn! that's gonna take a while... :D


I just remembered something anyone remember which fighters (I think it was 3) who all grew up on the same block or something like that. I remember reading that somewhere but can't remember the exact details.

Alaskas gonna be blank. :D
Rhode Island - Manfredo :D

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I think Paz was better than Manfredo.

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Damn! that's gonna take a while... :D


I just remembered something anyone remember which fighters (I think it was 3) who all grew up on the same block or something like that. I remember reading that somewhere but can't remember the exact details.

Alaskas gonna be blank. :D
Rhode Island - Manfredo :D

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I think Paz was better than Manfredo.

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Damn! Sheep...
I keeed, I keeed. ;D

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New York - Zab Judah
Nevada - Floyd Mayweather Jr. (Yes, I consider him from Las Vegas)

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Judah better than Tyson?

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Is Judah better than the "before prison," Tyson? Not yet, but will be soon.

Is Judah better than the "after prison," Tyson? By a landslide.

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Judah "after Tszyu" is about as good as Tyson "after prison".

Updating my list.


Alabama- Joe Louis
Alaska
Arizona- Michael Carbajal
Arkansas
California
Colorado- Jack Dempsey
Connecticut- Willie Pep
Delaware-
Florida- Roy Jones
Georgia- Sugar Ray Robinson
Hawaii
Idaho-
Illinois
Indiana-
Iowa-
Kansas-
Kentucky- Muhammad Ali
Louisiana- Tony Canzoneri
Maine-
Maryland- Joe Gans
Massachusetts- Rocky Marciano
Michigan- Stanely Ketchel
Minnesota-
Mississippi- Henry Armstrong
Missouri-
Montana-
Nebraska-
Nevada-
New Hampshire-
New Jersey- Micky Walker
New Mexico- Bob Foster
New York- Benny Leonard
North Carolina-
North Dakota- Virgil Hill
Ohio- Ezzard Charles
Oklahoma-
Oregon-
Pennsylvania- Harry Greb
Rhode Island- Vinny Pazienza
South Carolina- Joe Frazier
South Dakota-
Tennessee-
Texas- Jack Johnson
Utah-
Vermont-
Virginia- Pernell Whitaker
Washington-
West Virginia-
Wisconsin-
Wyoming-

Louisiana has to be John Dulpessis...............Umm no;D

Old Bones Joe Brown or Canzoneri.Trying hard to think of ANY other fighter from North Dakota Lol....

How about Michael Spinks for Missouri?

And can anyone think of a notable fighter from Washington besides Greg Haugen? He's the only guy I can think of.

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Judah better than Tyson?

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Is Judah better than the "before prison," Tyson? Not yet, but will be soon.

Is Judah better than the "after prison," Tyson? By a landslide.

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Judah "after Tszyu" is about as good as Tyson "after prison".

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Not so sure about that when you consider that Judah was the last welterweight champion to hold all major world championship belts. He achieved this greatness after the Tszyu fight.

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Is Judah better than the "before prison," Tyson? Not yet, but will be soon.

Is Judah better than the "after prison," Tyson? By a landslide.

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Judah "after Tszyu" is about as good as Tyson "after prison".

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Not so sure about that when you consider that Judah was the last welterweight champion to hold all major world championship belts. He achieved this greatness after the Tszyu fight.

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Well after prison Tyson won a WBC title. He lost to every top quality fighter he faced after prison, (Tyson, Lewis) and a couple of journeymen(Williams, Mcbride).

After Tszyu, Judah lost to all top quality fighters he faced(Mayweather, Cotto) and a couple of journeymen(Baldomir, Spinks). There are similiarities there.

Difference is before prison Tyson achieved a lot more then Judah did before Tszyu.

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Judah "after Tszyu" is about as good as Tyson "after prison".

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Not so sure about that when you consider that Judah was the last welterweight champion to hold all major world championship belts. He achieved this greatness after the Tszyu fight.

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Well after prison Tyson won a WBC title. He lost to every top quality fighter he faced after prison, (Tyson, Lewis) and a couple of journeymen(Williams, Mcbride).

After Tszyu, Judah lost to all top quality fighters he faced(Mayweather, Cotto) and a couple of journeymen(Baldomir, Spinks). There are similiarities there.

Difference is before prison Tyson achieved a lot more then Judah did before Tszyu.

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"Pre prison," Tyson was an all time great. I'll never argue that. But Judah's career isn't over yet which is why I said that Judah is not as good as "Before prison," YET.



He'll beat Clottey and likely fight the loser of the Margarito vs. Cotto fight. After he wins that fight (it will be against Margarito;)) he will rematch Cotto. Zab can beat Cotto as long as he doesn't get all stupid again and try to stand there and trade shots with him.

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Not so sure about that when you consider that Judah was the last welterweight champion to hold all major world championship belts. He achieved this greatness after the Tszyu fight.

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Well after prison Tyson won a WBC title. He lost to every top quality fighter he faced after prison, (Tyson, Lewis) and a couple of journeymen(Williams, Mcbride).

After Tszyu, Judah lost to all top quality fighters he faced(Mayweather, Cotto) and a couple of journeymen(Baldomir, Spinks). There are similiarities there.

Difference is before prison Tyson achieved a lot more then Judah did before Tszyu.

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"Pre prison," Tyson was an all time great. I'll never argue that. But Judah's career isn't over yet which is why I said that Judah is not as good as "Before prison," YET.



He'll beat Clottey and likely fight the loser of the Margarito vs. Cotto fight. After he wins that fight (it will be against Margarito;)) he will rematch Cotto. Zab can beat Cotto as long as he doesn't get all stupid again and try to stand there and trade shots with him.

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I like your positive thinking. Have some rep.

Was Sonny Liston form Missouri?
Michael Nunn- Iowa

And Pennsylvania?
Hopkins
Greb
Holmes
Frazier

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Was Sonny Liston form Missouri?

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Sonny Liston was born in Arkansas