Anyone watch the fight last night? i thought he looked pretty good but he should be more aggressive and go for the KO...
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Anyone watch the fight last night? i thought he looked pretty good but he should be more aggressive and go for the KO...
I thought he looked very good, I'm a huge fan of both Petersons, don't find them boring at all.
Needs to step up though. Definitely time, maybe past time.
Very impressed last night. Looks a very good fighter.
Got caught a few times when he didn't need to take the risk, but this is Boxing.
His record doesn't imply a good punch, maybe he was wary of punching himself out while he was in no danger of losing on points. I liked his jab, but he did seem a little slow on his feet, yet it wasn't really good opposition last night.
Good fighter. I read a good lil interview on him the other day, hope he does well.
He looked ok. But I'm not big on the Peterson brothers.
The Peterson's make me think of this song
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vzpxRd44PpE
Great skills, average power. He got caught a few times too and didn't look too clever. I think he'll be found wanting at the top level.
Been following both brothers for a while now. About time they stepped it up tho, they have been thereabouts for a couple of years now. As a few others have said they have good skills but maybe not the power and ring smarts to make it big.
Twenty four fights and he's fighting somebody with thirteen defeats. And they say British fighters are over-protected.
Difference is if he was British he'd be a WBO champ by now:rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing
I can't see him beating either of the guys who fought for the WBO title on Saturday night.Quote:
Originally Posted by eagleDifference is if he was British he'd be a WBO champ by now:rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing
I'm also huge on the Petersons.
It is time they step up but to be fair Rogelio is a good fighter. Local guy but very tough. I can't complain about them being brought up like they are, I think promoters are finding out more and more that the 4 year plan for top Olympians/Amateurs is too risky and not worth it. They have matched him with an abundance of different styles which is key unlike Khan who got matched up solely against complete powder puffs with 0 KO power until his last go. Mixing and matching against lower competition is definitely worth it. That's what they did with Pavlik and he got to the top ranks having already seen pretty much everything thrown at him just a few skill levels below championship level. That's what they are doing with Andre Ward and now what they are doing with the Petersons.
I haven't seen the fight last night but really want to. From some comments on here it seems that they think the brothers put it on cruise control a bit to often. Very similar to the main criticism of Andre Ward but obviously I don't mind that.
I hope to see the fight tomorrow.
Also, before the fight Arum told Lamont that he is next in line to fight the winner of Holt-Torres. Obviously the controversial nature of the fight might delay that but I think those are two winnable fights for him. Especially against Holt. Torres would no doubt check Peterson's chin but going all the way back to his amateur days he's always had a good chin but then again no one in his amateur days hit as hard as Torres.
The point is Peterson hasnt even got a title shot yet, but guys like Froch, Rees, Lockett etc get shots at titles doing just as little as Lamont. Dot act as tho US fighters are protected more than British fighters just cos one US fighter has had an easy run.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kirkland LaingI can't see him beating either of the guys who fought for the WBO title on Saturday night.Quote:
Originally Posted by eagleDifference is if he was British he'd be a WBO champ by now:rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing
I didn't say they were. I'm pleased to see that we both agree that there are cases of US fighters being over-protected.Quote:
Originally Posted by eagleThe point is Peterson hasnt even got a title shot yet, but guys like Froch, Rees, Lockett etc get shots at titles doing just as little as Lamont. Dot act as tho US fighters are protected more than British fighters just cos one US fighter has had an easy run.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kirkland LaingI can't see him beating either of the guys who fought for the WBO title on Saturday night.Quote:
Originally Posted by eagle
No doubt there are cases, but British fighters are far more protected in general.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kirkland LaingI didn't say they were. I'm pleased to see that we both agree that there are cases of US fighters being over-protected.Quote:
Originally Posted by eagleThe point is Peterson hasnt even got a title shot yet, but guys like Froch, Rees, Lockett etc get shots at titles doing just as little as Lamont. Dot act as tho US fighters are protected more than British fighters just cos one US fighter has had an easy run.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing
Not to mention your average 13 loss American fighter based on the West Coast is far better then your average 13 loss British fighter.
I'm just pleased you agree with me.Quote:
Originally Posted by eagleNo doubt there are cases, but British fighters are far more protected in general.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kirkland LaingI didn't say they were. I'm pleased to see that we both agree that there are cases of US fighters being over-protected.Quote:
Originally Posted by eagle
I give Lamont a good chance against either Holt or Torres. They are good but not great champions by any means.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kirkland LaingI'm just pleased you agree with me.Quote:
Originally Posted by eagleNo doubt there are cases, but British fighters are far more protected in general.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing
They're not great at all but they're both at a higher level than Lamont.Quote:
Originally Posted by eagleI give Lamont a good chance against either Holt or Torres. They are good but not great champions by any means.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kirkland LaingI'm just pleased you agree with me.Quote:
Originally Posted by eagle
What makes u say that? Who have they beat that would trouble Lamont?Quote:
Originally Posted by Kirkland LaingThey're not great at all but they're both at a higher level than Lamont.Quote:
Originally Posted by eagleI give Lamont a good chance against either Holt or Torres. They are good but not great champions by any means.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing
Holt had an MD against shot Tackie, and Torres has had one big name fight and got beat easy by Cotto.
Other than that they have fought mainly journeymen and tomato cans.
They're apparently working on Holt-Peterson for the first defense. I think that's risky for Lamont, I think he's the more well rounded fighter but stylistically its a risky fight for him. Holt's biggest weakness is that glass jaw but Lamont really doesn't hit hard and he'd have to press the fight against Holt who's the faster guy.
I would pick Peterson over Torres fairly confidently, a lot better matchup for Lamont IMO.
They've both fought fighters with better records than the guy Peterson fought on Saturday night. Peterson is fighting at a level well below those two. I think both of them stop Lamont or give him a good battering for twelve rounds. I think Peterson is Kermit Cintron without the power. We'll see if I'm right eventually. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by eagleWhat makes u say that? Who have they beat that would trouble Lamont?Quote:
Originally Posted by Kirkland LaingThey're not great at all but they're both at a higher level than Lamont.Quote:
Originally Posted by eagle
Holt had an MD against shot Tackie, and Torres has had one big name fight and got beat easy by Cotto.
Other than that they have fought mainly journeymen and tomato cans.
He may not make it at the top level (depends on what the top level is, especially at 140 that could include guys that aren't top level fighters) but he doesn't fight anything like Kermit Cintron. I don't know if that was a stylistic comparison or just saying he was overhyped.
I hate the Peterson Brothers
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Originally Posted by PRIDE OF BOSTON
May I ask why? I mean they are one of the better stories in boxing homeless as teenagers living off the streets before taken in by Barry Hunter and both are very humble and soft spoken and neither are bad to watch in the ring. Don't get how someone can hate that.
No, I think he hasn't got it mentally.Quote:
Originally Posted by OumaFan
What makes you think that? Just curious.
Dunno. I've only ever seen him fight on Saturday, or at least I half watched it in a bar and watched the recording when I got home from my weekend away, so I'm basing my considered opinion on one fight. :) I just have the feeling he doesn't quite have it for some reason.Quote:
Originally Posted by amat
Just watched it. Obviously I was impressed it was virtually the same stuff we have seen from him since he turned pro. Didn't see the jab as much as I would have liked, but that's also much the same as what we have seen for a while. Tight guard as usual, ripped with the hooks. Fought at a consistent pace, didn't get to wild but maybe you would like to see more fire as far as the offensive attack but I think better safe then sorry.
Holt is a tricky match up, good boxer going to the side, fast guy who boxes well moving laterally. Would be interesting to see who's faster. I would take Peterson but there would be some close rounds.
This is a complete 180 from my position that Holt would be easier then Torres. Rewatched Torres-Holt 1 before I watched the rematch and I'm inclined to agree with OumaFan in that Torres would be the easier matchup. Still a chin checker though which would make me nervous no matter who I sent in there with him. I wouldn't advise either of those immediately to be honest.
Ngoudjo, Bailey, Lazcano ect.
Those are the guys that he should be stepping up to. It doesn't really make much sense to have been moved so gradually and deliberately for so long, plateau'd at the C level of 140 and then jump all the way to the top guys without making a stop in between. And it's not like anyone would complain if those fights are made as they represent steps up too.
This is true, they are one of the better stories... I'm not watching stories fight, though...Quote:
Originally Posted by amatQuote:
Originally Posted by PRIDE OF BOSTON
May I ask why? I mean they are one of the better stories in boxing homeless as teenagers living off the streets before taken in by Barry Hunter and both are very humble and soft spoken and neither are bad to watch in the ring. Don't get how someone can hate that.
It's really not their fault so hate's a strong word... In a more elequent fashion, I'm not a fan of how highly touted they are... I mean, I just get wicked sick of hearing about them... Yeah, yeah, yeah... It's like how everyone's heard 'Jewel' lived out of her car... Whatever.
Hey, if they make it at world level more power to them... I wish no ill on any fighter...
I guess I'm just sick of the media that surounds them more then them... They're ok...