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Haye is a wanker.
I didn't even watch it....some may claim wlad had done little lately, but haye has done nothing in the HW division yet except talk. You didn't even finish cleaning up the last division by fighting cunningham (who'd he probably beat anywayz) yet you are quick to jump in mouth first into another ?? The last person opinion in the world wlad and camp cares about is probably haye. I've said it before i love the guy in the ring (haye) so that's where he should be in the ring, what he has to say which wlad has already let him pretty much know is all garbled mush till he at least gets in the ring and fights at least one of these loosers wlad has had to put up with. Haye wants to work at burger king for two days and expects a raise and to be in contol of the fry machine already. Haye take your ass up to the counter and take orders like everyone else had to do. I'd say start on the floors but i would be a little unfair to not give haye credit for what he has done, so i'll put him a little ahead of a new hire.
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Originally Posted by Mar
You are kidding me? why fight Cunningham he got gifted a paper belt and is hardly on Maccarinellis league.
Haye is great for boxing and speaks the truth cant wait until November.
"Didnt clean out Cruserweight" dont be silly.
I didnt have a problem with anything with Haye said. He's hardley gonna say ''Klitschko would spark me out''.... He's trying despeartley to line a fight up with the man, he's gotta self him self.
I wanna see the fight happen so im happy to hear the man talk.
I don't see anything wrong with what he said, I think he would KO Wlad too he has too much speed and like he said, Wlad is so robotic that if you study him you WILL know 90% of the punches he is gonna throw at you.
I give Wlad a 10% chance of victory because if haye really is 233lb and feeling better all round, Wlad is dearly fucked.
Haye has shit defense I might add, but that makes him more exiting to me.
Thanks for posting the vid, rep given buddy ;)
Maybe so.......still a fight i wanted to see, definatly more than watching haye stalk wlad for the next god knows how long. I might be a little bitter as one of maybe only four or five people that did want to see that fight after watchin him since the afro daysclobber his way through the division just to get to the guy i really wanted to see him beat.... i dunno, but even now if that isn't going to happen then at least fight your way up a bit, the dude can fight but his mouth is way ahead of his fists right now, and it's just getting old.Quote:
Originally Posted by MarkusdarkusQuote:
Originally Posted by Mar
You are kidding me? why fight Cunningham he got gifted a paper belt and is hardly on Maccarinellis league.
Haye is great for boxing and speaks the truth cant wait until November.
"Didnt clean out Cruserweight" dont be silly.
I'm with mar, personally I reckon Haye has a good shot at Wlad, but he needs to earn the right to talk the shit he does, just get in the fucking ring and fight already.Quote:
Originally Posted by MarMaybe so.......still a fight i wanted to see, definatly more than watching haye stalk wlad for the next god knows how long. I might be a little bitter as one of maybe only four or five people that did want to see that fight after watchin him since the afro daysclobber his way through the division just to get to the guy i really wanted to see him beat.... i dunno, but even now if that isn't going to happen then at least fight your way up a bit, the dude can fight but his mouth is way ahead of his fists right now, and it's just getting old.Quote:
Originally Posted by MarkusdarkusQuote:
Originally Posted by Mar
You are kidding me? why fight Cunningham he got gifted a paper belt and is hardly on Maccarinellis league.
Haye is great for boxing and speaks the truth cant wait until November.
"Didnt clean out Cruserweight" dont be silly.
He is just hyping the fight and bringing some much needed excitement into the lacklusture heavyweight division. He is a seriuos threat to the division and as Lennox said give him 12-18 months and he will become champion.
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Originally Posted by MarMaybe so.......still a fight i wanted to see, definatly more than watching haye stalk wlad for the next god knows how long. I might be a little bitter as one of maybe only four or five people that did want to see that fight after watchin him since the afro daysclobber his way through the division just to get to the guy i really wanted to see him beat.... i dunno, but even now if that isn't going to happen then at least fight your way up a bit, the dude can fight but his mouth is way ahead of his fists right now, and it's just getting old.Quote:
Originally Posted by MarkusdarkusQuote:
Originally Posted by Mar
You are kidding me? why fight Cunningham he got gifted a paper belt and is hardly on Maccarinellis league.
Haye is great for boxing and speaks the truth cant wait until November.
"Didnt clean out Cruserweight" dont be silly.
Looking at the state of the HW division, Hayes style and the fact he was undisputed CW champion gives him the right to shout at Wlad.
Hatton got Mayweather Calzaghe got Hopkins when they moved up so Haye deserves his shot.
Im willing to bet if Haye was American HBO would already be linning up a shot at Wlad.
Hayes always good for a laugh, I like the dude. :)
Anyone notice everyone from US likes Wlad on here. And everyone from abroad likes Haye??
Now I agree with you on this one! Haye was certainly the best cruiser out there and I voted for him in the thread i started last week to beat Klitschko.Quote:
Originally Posted by MarkusdarkusQuote:
Originally Posted by Mar
You are kidding me? why fight Cunningham he got gifted a paper belt and is hardly on Maccarinellis league.
Haye is great for boxing and speaks the truth cant wait until November.
"Didnt clean out Cruserweight" dont be silly.
Haye said he is weighing 233lb at the minute so I would say he will weigh in at around 215-220 which like i've said before is perfect for a good heavyweight. I'm actually looking forward to them getting in the ring together but I think that Haye will fight Maskaev first and from the sound of what Haye was saying he may have it (or whoever it is) all but signed up. All we need now is for them both (Klitschko and Haye) to win their fights before they meet each other!
Haye can talk all he wants. Haye will get smoke by klitschko.
Personally I couldn't care less where Klitschko or Haye come from, I just want to see at least one decent heavyweight. Klitschko is so terrified of his glass jaw that he's scared to fight people so we're only ever going to get to watch crap from him. I don't care if Haye or Solis or anybody else does it but I want to see somebody knock him the f out and bring some excitement to the heavyweight division. Boxing desperately needs at least one recognisiable heavyweight who can actually fight, the current guys just shame the sport.Quote:
Originally Posted by boozeboxer
It's possible, this would be an exiting fight and good for the division, your opinion is shared by many, Haye may be KO'd or carry on punching above his weight.Quote:
Originally Posted by napoleon336
I pick the latter, KO in 5
Haye will knock out Klits in a matter of rounds,Speed is power and Klit is so predictable and slow that Haye will catch him early on.
Haye is so confident of victory i find it hard to pick any heavyweight against him.
Remember Haye will be better at HW than he ever was a CW that you can bet your boots.
Nope. I can assure you its only you that are seing things that way.Quote:
Originally Posted by boozeboxer
Im from the UK. I like Haye because he always wants to fight the best and tries to seperate their heads from their shoulders every time. Him being English is a bonus.
I dont understand the people who have a go at Haye.
All he wants is to fight the very best.
Whats wrong with that?:confused:
Nothing... In principle, but he's desperate to fight ONE guy because he feels that particular guy is made for him. Perhaps if he backed up his words and get in the fufking ring it wouldn't be a problem.Quote:
Originally Posted by porkypara
I like Haye as a fighter , hes exciting and a vulnarable knockout puncher.
i also like Wlad for the same reasons , however i agree with BOMP , Haye should stop trying to get SEANIE'S " SIR BELLEND AWARD " and let his fists do the talking , at the moment he doesnt deserve a shot a Wlad , so come on David beat a few good uns and we may take you more seriously.
I wonder why those 51 guys Wlad has beat didn't think of that much less the 45 of them that were knocked out. :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by Kel
Haye is 233 WOW....Wlad is 240 and methinks he's just a tad stronger and more experienced at heavyweight but go ahead build your boy up....I just don't want to hear any excuses when Haye is asking "Did I at least come in second?" while the KTFO tweety birds circle his head.
I still don't really rank Maccarinelli what the fuck did that guy ever do?
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Originally Posted by boozeboxer
I dislike Wlad... No question the best at HW... But dislike him. Haye needs to show me he belongs at HW. Best Cruiser in the world, though.
Knowing and being able to do something about it are two separate thing. I might see a bear in the distance charging my way, but that doesn't mean I can stop it from raping and killing me.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kel
Anyone who has no defense is up a creek against Wlad, I don't care how much you weigh. Before the fight I'd bet Thompson was feeling pretty good. I think Haye fighting Wlad would be over a lot quicker than any of us would guess with Haye staring up at lights. Wlad has the best 1-2 in the division and his left hook ain't bad, either. Let's see what Haye can do against Maskaev before we make him the crowned king. Sorry, a guy who's gained 33lbs+ in just a few short months isn't coming off as studly in my opinion.
I find it hilarious that you were able to name ALL of Wlad's weapons in one SHORT sentence;DQuote:
Originally Posted by KillfaceKnowing and being able to do something about it are two separate thing. I might see a bear in the distance charging my way, but that doesn't mean I can stop it from raping and killing me.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kel
Anyone who has no defense is up a creek against Wlad, I don't care how much you weigh. Before the fight I'd bet Thompson was feeling pretty good. I think Haye fighting Wlad would be over a lot quicker than any of us would guess with Haye staring up at lights. Wlad has the best 1-2 in the division and his left hook ain't bad, either. Let's see what Haye can do against Maskaev before we make him the crowned king. Sorry, a guy who's gained 33lbs+ in just a few short months isn't coming off as studly in my opinion.
And I find it hilarious that a guy who loves Peter Manfredo thinks poorly about a REAL boxer.
Peter manfredo was one of the best prospects in the world at 154 in 2003. Say what you will but its true. I've lost respect for him since he's grown complacent and now showing up at fights weighing like 170 but most of his fights are still more exciting then Wlads. Why do you always make that comparison anyway?Quote:
Originally Posted by Lyle
I really Haye is being hyped a little too much by those from back home. There is little to suggest he can beat Wlad yet. Haye is the best at Cruiserweight but that doesnt mean he can hang with the big boys; especially when we know he has a questionable chin and also has question marks surrounding stamina himself.
I dont like Wlad but its a blinkered viewpint that thinks Haye smokes him that easily.
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Originally Posted by PRIDE OF BOSTONI find it hilarious that you were able to name ALL of Wlad's weapons in one SHORT sentence;DQuote:
Originally Posted by KillfaceKnowing and being able to do something about it are two separate thing. I might see a bear in the distance charging my way, but that doesn't mean I can stop it from raping and killing me.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kel
Anyone who has no defense is up a creek against Wlad, I don't care how much you weigh. Before the fight I'd bet Thompson was feeling pretty good. I think Haye fighting Wlad would be over a lot quicker than any of us would guess with Haye staring up at lights. Wlad has the best 1-2 in the division and his left hook ain't bad, either. Let's see what Haye can do against Maskaev before we make him the crowned king. Sorry, a guy who's gained 33lbs+ in just a few short months isn't coming off as studly in my opinion.
Love the way fans of this fight speculate from fight to fight who will win.
The klitschko that fights haye would be a complete different klitchsko that turned up saturday.
Whatever you lot wanna say who would potentally win this fight im still sticking by my evaluation that this is Wlads chin vs hayes ability to fight on the back foot!!
I like Haye, he's a good talker and its good that he is determined to get a fight with Klitschko down the line but it appears to me he is underestimating Klitschko.
If this fight was to happen Haye would have to end it early because the further it goes the more it goes in favor of Klitschko in my opinion. Haye is faster but Klitschko is faster than what he is given credit for plus you add his power and his jab - cross and Haye could easily lose by KO as his chin isn't good. Wlad could end it early also.
This fight will be like Sanders vs Wvlad
Sanders was just an average fighter with speed but that Gives Wvlad trouble. I think Haye will shock people with a quick win .
Sanders had a good chin and that was at a time where Wlad wasn't the same fighter he is now. Wladimer now seems to hold when people get close or at least only fights with people at his distance otherwise he holds.Quote:
Originally Posted by GAME
Don't underestimate Wladimer. He may be unexciting and Haye may be exciting but that doesn't mean he is going to beat Wlad. Wlad has the height and the power to give Haye a lot of issues.
If they ever fight each other I'll be picking Klit to knock Haye out.
Haye has power and is exciting but his lack of defense is gonna get him hit by Wlad and hit often, and I doubt he could take Wlad's punches for very long.
And I know you say "But all it takes is one shot from Haye" but the thing is Wlad is going to get to haye first and more often then he gets to wlad. If he can take Wlad's power then he has a chance, but I'd like to look at how he takes a shot at heavyweight before I say he will beat Wlad.
That about sums it up. Wlad has shown a very mature fighting style, not the most crowd pleasing, but very effective he knows exactly how to use his jab and augment his reach. While I think Haye would be good for HW to the general public, I don't see him beating Wlad, especially if it goes rounds.Quote:
Originally Posted by MajestySanders had a good chin and that was at a time where Wlad wasn't the same fighter he is now. Wladimer now seems to hold when people get close or at least only fights with people at his distance otherwise he holds.Quote:
Originally Posted by GAME
Don't underestimate Wladimer. He may be unexciting and Haye may be exciting but that doesn't mean he is going to beat Wlad. Wlad has the height and the power to give Haye a lot of issues.
If they ever fight each other I'll be picking Klit to knock Haye out.
Haye has power and is exciting but his lack of defense is gonna get him hit by Wlad and hit often, and I doubt he could take Wlad's punches for very long.
And I know you say "But all it takes is one shot from Haye" but the thing is Wlad is going to get to haye first and more often then he gets to wlad. If he can take Wlad's power then he has a chance, but I'd like to look at how he takes a shot at heavyweight before I say he will beat Wlad.
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Originally Posted by MajestySanders had a good chin and that was at a time where Wlad wasn't the same fighter he is now. Wladimer now seems to hold when people get close or at least only fights with people at his distance otherwise he holds.Quote:
Originally Posted by GAME
Don't underestimate Wladimer. He may be unexciting and Haye may be exciting but that doesn't mean he is going to beat Wlad. Wlad has the height and the power to give Haye a lot of issues.
If they ever fight each other I'll be picking Klit to knock Haye out.
Haye has power and is exciting but his lack of defense is gonna get him hit by Wlad and hit often, and I doubt he could take Wlad's punches for very long.
And I know you say "But all it takes is one shot from Haye" but the thing is Wlad is going to get to haye first and more often then he gets to wlad. If he can take Wlad's power then he has a chance, but I'd like to look at how he takes a shot at heavyweight before I say he will beat Wlad.
How have you been Star?
David Haye, the next Heavyweight king.
He will knock Wlad spark out.
I like Haye a lot, he is one fighter that is looking to fight the best straight away.
Could you see Haye figting Thompson? i think he`d rather vacate.
....we can safely make that assumption because Haye has already had so much success vs the "fat slob" heavyweights :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by IronDanLaw
Haye had better be able to back up his talk or he had best stop before Wlad wants to pummel him more....Wlad is hardly Carl Thompson and the sooner David realizes this then maybe the sooner he realizes he needs to test himself at heavyweight before trying to get a title shot.
And the people who tout that Haye is ranked by some federations had better realize that Manny Pacquiao could get ranked as a middleweight right now and that's just the way boxing works...it's not that Haye EARNED it it's just he's able to "grease the wheels" so to speak
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Originally Posted by Lyle....we can safely make that assumption because Haye has already had so much success vs the "fat slob" heavyweights :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by IronDanLaw
Haye had better be able to back up his talk or he had best stop before Wlad wants to pummel him more....Wlad is hardly Carl Thompson and the sooner David realizes this then maybe the sooner he realizes he needs to test himself at heavyweight before trying to get a title shot.
And the people who tout that Haye is ranked by some federations had better realize that Manny Pacquiao could get ranked as a middleweight right now and that's just the way boxing works...it's not that Haye EARNED it it's just he's able to "grease the wheels" so to speak
I am sure he greases alot of things.
I'm not saying I agree with it but other fighters move up a weight and get to fight the top man straight away so why should Haye be any different?Quote:
Originally Posted by Lyle....we can safely make that assumption because Haye has already had so much success vs the "fat slob" heavyweights :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by IronDanLaw
Haye had better be able to back up his talk or he had best stop before Wlad wants to pummel him more....Wlad is hardly Carl Thompson and the sooner David realizes this then maybe the sooner he realizes he needs to test himself at heavyweight before trying to get a title shot.
And the people who tout that Haye is ranked by some federations had better realize that Manny Pacquiao could get ranked as a middleweight right now and that's just the way boxing works...it's not that Haye EARNED it it's just he's able to "grease the wheels" so to speak
In my eyes he's a natural Heavy that has been draining himself for years to make cruiser and he will be much stronger at heavy and may even have a better chin as he won't be weight drained. I also think he's good for the division because if he brings nothing else he's already brought a bit of interest back!