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i think this is too much for Williams. He has never really faced a taller guy. I think he should face a middle weight that punches like a middleweight and not like a cruiser weight. I say Pavlik between rounds 1-3. This is nuts for Williams and I wouldnt be suprised if he gets a last minute injury.
The smart bet is clearly Williams by early KO.
My money would be on Pavlic
Pavlik easily IMO
This one caught me by suprise as a made match.I really thought Williams would be going up after Quintana rematch...win,loose,or draw but not to full middle.I realize the sparcity and depth at Jr.Middle right now but Williams could do extremely well there as a jump off point.Winky stays at Middle, I'm hard pressed to think of a Huge threat for Williams at 154 lbs....I just dislike Division jumping but you go where the Dollars make sense.
Call me off but With Williams/Pavlik,I keep thinking Williams/Margarito....:-X NO,I am not saying Williams can undo Pavlik but Pavlik is also all rangy,aggresive & and unloads bricks aplenty....very hard to discourage also.I think williams will need to be very mobile and box a perfect fight if he has any hope of taking this one.If Williams stands in front,Smothers is own range and does that bend over with leaky Defense style and open fist punching,He will get wrecked.I just do not see Him dealing with Pavliks own jab and Power and I think Williams will get stopped convincingly.
Im going Pavlik by decision. I think Wiiiliams will have the movement and reach to stay out of trouble. Being a southpaw he will make things awkward for THE GHOST.I think Pavlik will be chasing him around the ring and win a clear UD.
If Paul plans on being on his backfoot all night he will not only lack any power to hurt Pavlik, but will get caught sooner or later, as that heigth advantage he is used to won't help him with Pavlik, as he'll close that ring down and pound him.
If Paul gets a crazy notion to stand and trade with Kelly Pavlik then he'll look like Gumby on valium. Pavlik ko within 6.
And if Williams wins I'm taking a hot bath with razor blades.
I'm not saying Kelly is the greatest ever, and I am in no way saying Williams is junk. I'm just amazed he is going from WW to meet the best MW in one leap{who's bright idea was this??}
Movement ? Quintana hit him at will , Pavlik is much better and the fight will be a ritual Killing with Pavlik winning inside 4Quote:
Originally Posted by eagle
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Originally Posted by Dark Lord AlMovement ? Quintana hit him at will , Pavlik is much better and the fight will be a ritual Killing with Pavlik winning inside 4Quote:
Originally Posted by eagle
A ritual killing is something that lasts more than 6 minutes.......
DEPENDS ON THE MOOD OF THE EXECUTIONER :foruml10gc5:Quote:
Originally Posted by boozeboxerQuote:
Originally Posted by Dark Lord AlMovement ? Quintana hit him at will , Pavlik is much better and the fight will be a ritual Killing with Pavlik winning inside 4Quote:
Originally Posted by eagle
A ritual killing is something that lasts more than 6 minutes.......
Well that is true, I just usually thought they drag out ritual killing for the entertainment factor.
I am taking the first Quintana fight as just a bad night that wont happen again. Im no Williams fan but something tells me he will go a lot of rounds with Kelly. I like Kelly and am a big fan of his but am slightly concerned that some people are making him out to be some kind of Superman.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dark Lord AlMovement ? Quintana hit him at will , Pavlik is much better and the fight will be a ritual Killing with Pavlik winning inside 4Quote:
Originally Posted by eagle
If Williams is sparked early i'll admit i was wrong, but i think even tho he gives up power to Kelly he is a good enough boxer to keep out of trouble for a long time. He will surprise us all with how competitive he is.
williams just uses his height n other adv as a tool to beat his usually smaller opponents IMO and Pav is bigger so i think pav will just use his strength and height adv and win by KO
This just seems like such a strange matchup to me. I like Williams and hope he does well but to just go up two divisions and jump in with the best is maybe a little kamikaze. He should go up and fight a top 10 ranked fighter and test the waters before going anywhere near Pavlik.
Probably a Pavlik win by brutal KO.
Williams will get knocked out no doubt.
Pavlik will pressure him, hurt him then knock him out.
Williams has nothing that will trouble Pavlik.
William's might cause Pavlik trouble in the first couple of rounds but after that its 1 way trafic till he gets ko'ed.
Disgraceful match-up it really is.
Someone actually voted for Paul Willimas!
Is Paul Williams himself on the site, because I have no explanation for who else could possibly perceive any othe outcome than Pavlik by KO.
dcR-Reckless
It would be nice if you could post on how you think Williams will beat Pavlik. ;D
Absolutly everything in me says pavlik wins very very easy, but i have to wonder what the hell it is in pavlik that williams see's that makes him think he has a chance, pavlik isn't the greatest boxing wise but he is good at what he does, and easy to underestimate visually. The smart pick has got to be pavlik. But this fight interests me, i want to see what is up williams sleeve. It better be a bat or brick.
Willams has great speedQuote:
Originally Posted by Mar
, he is also a south paw who is busy. Pavlik if he is smart should try to keep him around for at least 6 rounds. Only reason being a possible Calzaghe fight. Williams would be a great tune up.
Whoever is handling Williams really dropped the ball here. If he wanted to he could be unified champ at 154 by this time next year, or keep B level talent at bay and hold onto his WW strap.
One thing that will definately help Williams is his reach which is absolutely ridiculous, if I'm not mistaken it's longer than most heavyweights. I can see where Williams could convince himself that he has a chance and in all honesty he may grab a few rounds early against Pavlik because of his workrate, but I'm going with Pavlik late stoppage. I'd say Williams lasts til the 10th or 11th round. Hard to say really with this much of a jump up in weight.
See one the other hand Pavlik could land one or two really hard rights and put Williams on guard all night and get set up for a early k.o. I would prefer mid rounds to get some work in on a south paw.Quote:
Originally Posted by killersheep
I've never seen Williams put his guard up, I'm not sure he knows how, he just punches more. I've seen Williams get caught with some real bombs and he just keeps punching. Not saying that's gonna win him the fight, but it should put off the inevitable.Quote:
Originally Posted by southakron314See one the other hand Pavlik could land one or two really hard rights and put Williams on guard all night and get set up for a early k.o. I would prefer mid rounds to get some work in on a south paw.Quote:
Originally Posted by killersheep
Dont even get me started. Williams is well over 6 feet. He has a 81 inch reach. He fought at middle weight before and won. He is probablly the only welter -light middle that can beat mayweather. Why are you not this pissed about Hatton taking Pacman?Quote:
Originally Posted by littlebif
Sorry little bif I ment to quote Markduswhatever.
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Originally Posted by southakron314Willams has great speedQuote:
Originally Posted by Mar
, he is also a south paw who is busy. Pavlik if he is smart should try to keep him around for at least 6 rounds. Only reason being a possible Calzaghe fight. Williams would be a great tune up.
Southakron,Quote:
Originally Posted by southakron314
Where did you get that avatar?
Very interesting fight to me and thats all I gotta say about that... There has to be a dynamic to this fight we are seeing
I got t from a Michealagelo paintingQuote:
Originally Posted by hitmandonnyQuote:
Originally Posted by southakron314Willams has great speedQuote:
Originally Posted by Mar
, he is also a south paw who is busy. Pavlik if he is smart should try to keep him around for at least 6 rounds. Only reason being a possible Calzaghe fight. Williams would be a great tune up.
Southakron,Quote:
Originally Posted by southakron314
Where did you get that avatar?
arch angel. I got if from google images and saved it to my pictures and uploaded it to my profile. I love it.
Its just a coincidence.Quote:
Originally Posted by southakron314I got t from a Michealagelo paintingQuote:
Originally Posted by hitmandonnyQuote:
Originally Posted by southakron314
Southakron,Quote:
Originally Posted by southakron314
Where did you get that avatar?
arch angel. I got if from google images and saved it to my pictures and uploaded it to my profile. I love it.
My local church is the only church in Europe with that fresco above the alter!!!!
If he can knock out Miranda... What would he do to a stick like Williams ?