He does love a rant our Enzo;D
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He does love a rant our Enzo;D
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hes also a deranged dick head ,
Enzo is a prick! He could've easily voiced his opinion in a much more calm sense. I can't believe he criticized Roach, Stewart, etc. Let alone mouthing off against Hopkins. C'mon man! Hopkins was no way even close to the way he used to be and all of a sudden Enzo think it's the greatest accomplishment in the world? Enzo is a prick!
Funniest guy in boxing!
"Listen they can say what they like der der der but Joe is his own man so all this ratta tat, larly dardy talk is rubbish"
Legend!
Enzo is a confident one, he doesn't bother me so much his boy has (reguardless of how) managed to stay undefeated so i'll give him props for his part in that, but i don't take too much of what he says too seriously. They're trying to ruffle our feathers a bit, and sell tix. Hard for me to belive he honestly belives a lot of the blah blah that comes out of his mouth. Probaby just had a red bull or something.
err.. that's Enzo after the medication. He doesn't get any calmer.Quote:
Originally Posted by caleoh12
And to be fair, he hardly criticised those trainers by pointing out their fighters have lost to fighters trained by UK coaches ;)
Has he got a lot worse since winning 'trainer of the year' award? I can't remember when he was such a gobby git. Maybe he just gets more press attention and has always been like this.
Is funny though some of it:)
Enzo Calzaghe reminds me of a WWF manager,always ranting and shouting about somthing.
Still I got to say I have meet him a few times and he is a nice bloke eve if he is a bit mad.
Aso he made me a cup of tea when i visited his gym i Newbridge.;D
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Originally Posted by porkypara
count your self lucky then, coz they three a t shirt one of them had been training in at my head and told me to make it, and has hustled me out of money numerous times playing switch.
To all the cry babys - um exactly what he has said that was wrong? PErsonaly i have said i think khan needs one of the big us trainers if he doesnt go to newbirdge, i think roach would be a good choice
BUT the fact that a lot of their fighters have had losses recently, major ones and some to british people is correct, why is everyone crying over that. It is not like he is saying that they are bad trainers - just pointint out they are not gods as their fighters have lost ot british and british trained fighters, so whats the big deal?
Shit he even hinter haye whom he has slated in the past would beat the best ranked heavyweight.
Jesus, dry ur eyes girls
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Originally Posted by Kel
I understand it.
He feels that he never got the respect he deserved until the Lacy bout.
Enzo is bitter towards America as America was bitter about Joe for years.
I love the guy!
He is not telling Lies is He ;D
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Originally Posted by Mar
I think it wise not to take him too seriously too as whatever you think of Khan,I like him BUT not his entourage,the fact is that he rightly believes that the best coaching opportunities lie on the other side of the pond.....as he saw on his last trip.
Anyway with all due respect to the great Joe Calzaghe...who was the coach that allowed himself to be decked in the 1st in his last fight against a boxer who was 3 years past retirement( even if Hopkins is/was a TRUE great)?..
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Originally Posted by HoagyQuote:
Originally Posted by Mar
I think it wise not to take him too seriously too as whatever you think of Khan,I like him BUT not his entourage,the fact is that he rightly believes that the best coaching opportunities lie on the other side of the pond.....as he saw on his last trip.
Anyway with all due respect to the great Joe Calzaghe...who was the coach that allowed himself to be decked in the 1st in his last fight against a boxer who was 3 years past retirement( even if Hopkins is/was a TRUE great)?..
Only takes a second to get dumped, just as Ali did against Wepner you wouldnt hold it against Ali or Dundee would you?
Wasnt a knockdown as in hurt he was off balance, Kessler hit him much harder.
He is absolutely spot on!!!
Although id say rather than going to Calzaghe, Kahn should go to Brian Hughes, who Enzo mentioned.
Brian, or whoever takes over from him as hes retiring, would be a very good choice, he teaches his fighters how to defend, which Amir hasnt.
Hes had good succes over the years with the likes of Robin Reid an d Michael Jennings, he has consitancy.
Some of Enzos success has come off the back of Joe, getting better fighters joining him because of Joe, Enzos test will be after Joe retires, how his fighters do. If they dont see a successfull Joe to train alongside and start losing they might all abandon ship.
Although that being said, where else is Kahn gonna get all that quality sparring on tap?
Id say go to Hughes or Calzaghe and bring the occasional american over for sparring, it would be cheaper than moving there, I dont like Kahn and cant see him going far but if Warren wants to invest in him, get him decent sparring partners over, some who give him different things to think about, old pros who know how to spoil, survive and cheat, also young ambitious fighters to push him.
Enzo is right though, going to Roach aint gonna solve the problem, I dont think and Steward, for every success has had an equally high profile disaster.
He is right regarding the British media. They overhype everything (main cause of pressure) and expecting their fighters to dominate all the time. Hatton, Hamed and even Joe C are products of overhyping by British media. Look what happen to Hatton & Hamed when they fought top caliber opponents. Look at Joe C when he fought old Hopkins, he can’t put a convincing performance considering he fought a past prime fighter. The truth is Joe C was exposed in that fight with Hopkins that a 43y/o can put Joe’s ass in the blue mat (even if that was an off balance or whatever reason Joe C call it). British media are over the top in crediting their Brit fighters. Enzo knows it that’s why he is blaming the media on pressuring Amir.
Regarding trainers, well, he is acting like a member of the Mayweather family. The only difference is that the Mayweathers talk but they back it up and already proven great trainers w/ excellent fighters in their stable. Enzo talk s*** against other trainers but who has he trained world class besides Joe C (a protected fighter at best)? Stewart, Roach, Birmingham and others with the exception of Floyd never discredit other trainers’ ability. But they are the sought after trainers in the world of boxing. The great Lennox Lewis a Brit, work with Manny Stewart, look what he had achieved. Compare that to Joe C who can’t even unify all the belts at SMW division to where he reigns for what 10 years. Let’s wait after Joe C retires if Enzo can produce a world class fighter. Until then he better shut the f*** up... Amir can go anywhere he wants. That's what a fighter should do.. looking for the best and be with the best.. whether its in america or at home...
I'm no massive enzo fan and he can be extremely annoying but then on the flipside he's a character and its good to have characters in the sport, I think its best just to not take his rants too seriously, if you dont the he's funny as f*ck, he's a bit of a mentalist! As for this piece he's not really saying anything thats not the truth is he?
You dont know what your on about;DQuote:
Originally Posted by antimoron
How can a fighter who hasnt been beaten in 11 years as a champ and did unify the super middle division and landed more punches than anyone could including Jones on Hopkins be overrated?
How many of Stewards champs have been produced by him and how many have gone to him after being established, look at Cintron, Taylor and lee recently.
Then you have Hamed! He cant work wonders!
Enzo has quite a few fighters now on all different levels and all have a good record, some have lost recently but to very good fighters, Enzo got them where they were.
That is rubbish.Quote:
Originally Posted by antimoron
Barrera totally destroying Paul Lloyd and Richie Wenton, Mosley destroying Adrian Stone, are cases of Brit fighters being "exposed" when upped into world-class.
Vargas-Clarke, Trinidad-Lueshing, Pavlik-Lockett, etc...
Hatton, Naz and Calzaghe are all PROVEN world-class fighters.
Naz was defeated ONCE by a GREAT. Hatton has ONE loss to a GREAT.
Calzaghe had been floored before Hopkins. Instead of focusing on the negative, how about the fact he got up - and WON the fight. A lesser EXPOSED fighter would never have beaten Hopkins let alone win after getting off the canvas ;)
I was watching the Steve Bunce boxing hour a few weeks ago on Setanta (pretty good) and Enzo nearly got booted off the live phone chat for calling someone in the fight game a fucking wanker hahahaha;D
Proper character is Enzo and the fight game needs people like that.
Exactly he's a character and every sport needs characters. I think if you dont take his lunacy too seriously he's quite funny. And even though he might not put it across the best way he could the man knows what he's on about.Quote:
Originally Posted by smashup
Who was Enzo talking about?Quote:
Originally Posted by smashup
I find him fairly funny to be honest. He rants like a madman but seems like a harmless caricature. He often gets well tetchy with the woman who interviews him in the Frank Warren tv clips on youtube.
Pavliks manager hahahaha;D
Enzo was funny in the Pavlik Lockett fight after the second round. At first he tells Lockett to calm down twice, then starts ripping into him like a madman.
I was thinking great way to get him to calm down Enzo!LOL...Classic stuff.
None of those British fighters were world level, in fact isnt Clark still hanging around as a journeyman?Quote:
Originally Posted by Fenster
We could name all the mexican roadsweepers that British fighters beat in the 90's as British are better than Mexicans but they were just bought over as opponents, not to be competetive;D
Yeah.. and?Quote:
Originally Posted by rossNone of those British fighters were world level, in fact isnt Clark still hanging around as a journeyman?Quote:
Originally Posted by Fenster
We could name all the mexican roadsweepers that British fighters beat in the 90's as British are better than Mexicans but they were just bought over as opponents, not to be competetive;D
When upped to world-level those fighters were thoroughly exposed. They were out of their depth.
Naz, Calzaghe and Hatton are all GENUINE proven world-class fighters. They are NOT hype jobs.
"look At Me!!! Look At Me!!! Are The Cameras On?!! Turn On Your Voice Recorder!!! I'm Ready!!! Do You Know Who I Am?!! I'm Enzo Calzaghe!!! Look At Me!!! Look At Me!!!"
Ah, shaddappa yo' face POB!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by PRIDE OF BOSTON
You leave poor Enzo alone, or he'll send the brigade over to get ya!
But seriously...he's always been a big talker, and he's had that freedom by bringing Joe up through the ranks to the very top, and that's got him plenty of mikes shoved in his face.
In reality though, I'm not convinced that it is a reflection on British coaches that Khan is looking to the US. The fact is that the big gyms over there are likely to have more strength in depth in terms of sparring, and certainly more experienced gatekeepers that he can meet and learn from. Look at the list that Calzaghe puts forward....seven names Khan could spar with in Newbridge, of which at least four are younger and more inexperienced than himself. He needs old heads to learn from, smart move I think.
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Originally Posted by rossYou dont know what your on about;DQuote:
Originally Posted by antimoron
How can a fighter who hasnt been beaten in 11 years as a champ and did unify the super middle division and landed more punches than anyone could including Jones on Hopkins be overrated?
How many of Stewards champs have been produced by him and how many have gone to him after being established, look at Cintron, Taylor and lee recently.
Then you have Hamed! He cant work wonders!
Enzo has quite a few fighters now on all different levels and all have a good record, some have lost recently but to very good fighters, Enzo got them where they were.
"Slaps" not "punches" is the proper word for that statement. He may numerically have been the most effective against Hopkins, but none of his punches had any effect on him. After the fight was over, Bernard looked like he came back from a long jog. I don't even know the exact number Joe landed, but there sure wasn't any evidence of it on Bernard's face.
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Originally Posted by superheavyrhunAh, shaddappa yo' face POB!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by PRIDE OF BOSTON
You leave poor Enzo alone, or he'll send the brigade over to get ya!
But seriously...he's always been a big talker, and he's had that freedom by bringing Joe up through the ranks to the very top, and that's got him plenty of mikes shoved in his face.
In reality though, I'm not convinced that it is a reflection on British coaches that Khan is looking to the US. The fact is that the big gyms over there are likely to have more strength in depth in terms of sparring, and certainly more experienced gatekeepers that he can meet and learn from. Look at the list that Calzaghe puts forward....seven names Khan could spar with in Newbridge, of which at least four are younger and more inexperienced than himself. He needs old heads to learn from, smart move I think.
It's true, though... If he hopes to develope into the fighter most of Britain already thinks he is;D He needs to come over here;)
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Originally Posted by caleoh12Quote:
Originally Posted by rossYou dont know what your on about;DQuote:
Originally Posted by antimoron
How can a fighter who hasnt been beaten in 11 years as a champ and did unify the super middle division and landed more punches than anyone could including Jones on Hopkins be overrated?
How many of Stewards champs have been produced by him and how many have gone to him after being established, look at Cintron, Taylor and lee recently.
Then you have Hamed! He cant work wonders!
Enzo has quite a few fighters now on all different levels and all have a good record, some have lost recently but to very good fighters, Enzo got them where they were.
"Slaps" not "punches" is the proper word for that statement. He may numerically have been the most effective against Hopkins, but none of his punches had any effect on him. After the fight was over, Bernard looked like he came back from a long jog. I don't even know the exact number Joe landed, but there sure wasn't any evidence of it on Bernard's face.
He landed somewhere around 12;D and the only meaningful one was landed by BHop and dropped PittyPat Joe on his hind quarters;D
Enzo is a twat. I thought what Jack Lowe said to him was hilarious.
Some of the shit Enzo comes out with is pathetic.
One of may all time faves was when Enzo predictied Locket to KO Kelly... His crystal ball had the wrong guy;DQuote:
Originally Posted by leftylee
My favourite was him saying if David Haye goes 12 rounds with Enzo Mac he will never box again LMAO.Quote:
Originally Posted by PRIDE OF BOSTONOne of may all time faves was when Enzo predictied Locket to KO Kelly... His crystal ball had the wrong guy;DQuote:
Originally Posted by leftylee
Could have been true... He could have worn his rotator cuffs out from all the punches he'd have thrown. Good for Haye it was over quickly;DQuote:
Originally Posted by leftyleeMy favourite was him saying if David Haye goes 12 rounds with Enzo Mac he will never box again LMAO.Quote:
Originally Posted by PRIDE OF BOSTONOne of may all time faves was when Enzo predictied Locket to KO Kelly... His crystal ball had the wrong guy;DQuote:
Originally Posted by leftylee