Grrr Danny Williams

Well Williams was given another gift last night against John McDermott in what is the worst decision I've seen in a British fight since Williams got the nod in the first Skelton fight.

They may try and shaft him in Germany but he gets such preferential treatment over here that it still doesn't even balance out.

And why do the commentators always talk about him as if on his day he's some kind of boxing prodigy? They always talk about what kind of Danny Williams will turn up and then explain how he's sometimes terrible but other times magnificant. :confused:

When has he ever been magnificant?

All of his great wins were nothing of the sort, he always looks shit.

He beat the shell of the fighter formally known as Mike Tyson....well anyone could have beaten him.

They make so much about his bravely fighting with a dislocated shoulder. No he didn't! His shoulder popped and his opponent walked onto a right hand about 30 seconds later he didn't fight with a dislocated shoulder at all. They make it sound like he fought on for several rounds defying the pain barrier when in reality his opponent was stupid enough to walk into one of his punches just after his shoulder popped, he wouldn't have come out for the next round at all.

His win over Skelton was a gift, he completely lost, just like he did yesterday.

His other 'great' performance was getting battered by Vitali Klitschko.

He's the most overatted British heavyweight there has ever been.

I disagree with you on the shoulder.... Very brave effort when 99.9% of the fighters would have quit he kept going. That takes balls my friend!!! you can clown on him about everything else, but to discredit that is bullshit it was a pretty extraodinary knockout for him despite the circumstances

He was fighting over a round with a dislocated shoulder. It came out popped back in again then came out again and Danny still wouldnt quit . . . . and it was a leftuppercut Mark Potter walked onto for teh first of the 3 knockdowns. Ive seen fighters quit who were not in as bad as condition as Danny was.

Big respect to Danny

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Originally Posted by Bilbo

He's the most overatted British heavyweight there has ever been.

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No, British heavyweights have always been pretty awful and overhyped .... Bombadier Billy Wells, Phaintin' Phil, Cooper, Cockell, Bugner, Bruno, Mason etc etc etc.

As somebody once said "If all the british heavyweights were laid end to end .... I wouldn;t be in the least surprised"

Williams on form beats every heavyweight Wlad aside.

Williams on the form shown last night at that crazy weight 19st will lose to everyone ranked.

Danny is 1,000x better than shown and the only things that pissed me off more than Dannys performance was McDermotts disgraceful condition and Parris`s shamblic Maloney lovin.

Used to think Dave was fair and imparsial but on last nights form would give Cortez a run for his money.

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Originally Posted by Markusdarkus

Williams on form beats every heavyweight Wlad aside.

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Tee hee hee

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Originally Posted by Markusdarkus

Williams on form beats every heavyweight Wlad aside.

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Williams on form beats every heavyweight Wlad aside.

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The guy that fought tyson second round on would beat anyone bar Wlad imo.

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Originally Posted by Markusdarkus

Williams on form beats every heavyweight Wlad aside.

Williams on the form shown last night at that crazy weight 19st will lose to everyone ranked.

Danny is 1,000x better than shown and the only things that pissed me off more than Dannys performance was McDermotts disgraceful condition and Parris`s shamblic Maloney lovin.

Used to think Dave was fair and imparsial but on last nights form would give Cortez a run for his money.

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:o Please tell me on what performance do you base this? This is the kind of shit that always gets said about Danny but I've seen all of his significant fights and I've never seen a performance that would convince anyone of this?

His only fight against significant opposition that he ever won was against a completely shot Tyson, and that is by far his best performance.

EVERY other time he's stepped up he's either looked shit or been battered.

Simal Sam, got absolutely battered.

Vitali, got absolutely battered.

Skelton, should have lost the first, easily lost the rematch

Harrison, won the first in the biggest heavyweight stinker of the millenuim and got absolutely battered in the rematch,

Sprott 1 - 1

Who else? What performance have I missed where he looked world class? :confused:

I wasn't even sure how to respond to that, its much easier to respond to claims that are only kind of absurd.

:happy0931sb4: ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

all this hw crap is making me lose my mind

Bilbo you fucking plum, Williams dislocated his shoulder in the 3rd round against Potter

And.. he would have been sickly ROBBED had the THREE points Dave (lost the plot) Parris took cost him the fight.

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Originally Posted by Markusdarkus

Williams on form beats every heavyweight Wlad aside.

Williams on the form shown last night at that crazy weight 19st will lose to everyone ranked.

Danny is 1,000x better than shown and the only things that pissed me off more than Dannys performance was McDermotts disgraceful condition and Parris`s shamblic Maloney lovin.

Used to think Dave was fair and imparsial but on last nights form would give Cortez a run for his money.

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Originally Posted by Fenster

Bilbo you fucking plum, Williams dislocated his shoulder in the 3rd round against Potter

And.. he would have been sickly ROBBED had the THREE points Dave (lost the plot) Parris took cost him the fight.

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Mate his dislocated shoulder is all we ever hear about though. Big deal, his shoulder popped out and in the same round his club fighter opponent was stupid enough to walk onto his one good hand and get knocked out.

Brave from Williams I guess but really there are hundreds of fighters who would have fought to the end of the round like he did.

Jeff Lacy fought AN ENTIRE FIGHT against Vitali Tyspko with a dislocated shoulder that required a FULL YEAR off due to surgery and he got no credit at all. In fact all we had were people on here saying he shouldn't have got the decision :rolleyes:

Arthur Abraham fought virtually an entire fight with his jaw hanging off his face and again gets no credit for it.

Danny Williams on the other hand fights a round with a dislocated shoulder and he's a hero for all time, and all of his future underachievements are just glossed aside as all the experts continue to tell us he's awesome on his day.

I just want to know when his day was?


Seriously no boxer has ever had more excuses made for him and had more praise unjustly hepaed upon him than Danny Williams has.

Whenever a boxing expert or pundit talks about Matt Skelton, they are always at pains to stress to us how shit and limited they think he is. Whenever Audley is mentioned they are always at pains to stress to us how delusional he is and how much of a fraud he is.

Yet whenever they mention Danny they always talk about this mythical figure who 'on his day' (and please tell me when that day was!) can beat anybody. :rolleyes:

The fact is a shot Tyson aside he's never beaten anybody. He got a gift against Skelton in the first fight, who avenged it by winning practically every round in the rematch, and he barely beat Audley in the worst fight of the past 100 years when Audley fought an absolute stinker, and Audley himself annihilated him in the rematch.

I just wish people would be honest about Danny Williams. He's a fat, lazy, woefully inconsistent heavyweight who fights only in short burst, but he can bang and when he gets tagged he's dangerous for the next minute or so until he's lulled back into a slumber again.


At his best he's a highlight reel for a world championship calibre fighter.

At his worst he's a name opponent on the record of an otherwise completely unheralded club fighter.

That's it. FACT! :)

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Originally Posted by Markusdarkus

Williams on form beats every heavyweight Wlad aside.

Williams on the form shown last night at that crazy weight 19st will lose to everyone ranked.

Danny is 1,000x better than shown and the only things that pissed me off more than Dannys performance was McDermotts disgraceful condition and Parris`s shamblic Maloney lovin.

Used to think Dave was fair and imparsial but on last nights form would give Cortez a run for his money.

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The guy that fought tyson second round on would beat anyone bar Wlad imo.

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So what your saying is Danny peaked to a world beating high for a couple rounds during the Tyson fight and even though 'on his day' he can perform at that level again he has chosen not to in all of his 12 fights since :rolleyes:

Bilbs for someone who would never watch the lighter weight guys you sure are critical of the heavier ones....

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Originally Posted by boozeboxer

Bilbs for someone who would never watch the lighter weight guys you sure are critical of the heavier ones....

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lol actually I don;t really criticise any fighters these days. I have nothing against Danny himself and I accept he's a pretty decent but inconsistent fighter.

It's just the fact that all the pundits are all so over the top with him about everything. He's the most skilled British heavyweight, the most naturally gifted.

On his day he can beat anybody. They even repeatedly tell us that he's the nicest guy in all of boxing, it's all so over the top.

He's simply not that good or that nice, I just don't understand it.

If you watched the fight on Sky, both the pre fight interviews with Steve Bunce and the post fight ones you'll notice the commentators only wanted to talk to Danny. When they asked McDermott a question they would constantly cut him off and get back to talking to Danny as well, which really irritated me.

He fought a stinker yesterday just like he does in virtually every fight.

He's fun to watch becuase he's so chinny and is always getting rocked and he has a big dig and gets riled up when hurt. But that is all he is, a decent domestic heavyweight who blows hot and cold. He's certainly no better than Audley Harrison or Matt Skelton yet we are constantly told by the pundits how shit they both are when neither of them has been dominated nearly as much as Danny as. He's been ktfo on 3 occaisions where he was completely outclassed and battered yet people still think on his day he's world class.

It just grates me.

But don't worry as soon as Haye make his heavyweight debut my disdain for the overatting of Danny Williams will be insignificant compared to how much I'll be pissing and spitting blood when they start touting him as the saviour of heavyweight boxing.

Believe me my little keyboard and mouse will be in danger of overheating when that happens :mad:

Danny Williams never has and never will be world class.

He beat the shell formerly known as "Iron" Mike, big deal, he is still shit.

Danny is or were a good fighter lets not forget vitali klitschko quit with a shoulder injury and lost his world title even when he was a head after 9 rounds out of 12.

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Originally Posted by Fenster

Bilbo you fucking plum, Williams dislocated his shoulder in the 3rd round against Potter

And.. he would have been sickly ROBBED had the THREE points Dave (lost the plot) Parris took cost him the fight.

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Mate his dislocated shoulder is all we ever hear about though. Big deal, his shoulder popped out and in the same round his club fighter opponent was stupid enough to walk onto his one good hand and get knocked out.

Brave from Williams I guess but really there are hundreds of fighters who would have fought to the end of the round like he did.

Jeff Lacy fought AN ENTIRE FIGHT against Vitali Tyspko with a dislocated shoulder that required a FULL YEAR off due to surgery and he got no credit at all. In fact all we had were people on here saying he shouldn't have got the decision :rolleyes:

Arthur Abraham fought virtually an entire fight with his jaw hanging off his face and again gets no credit for it.

Danny Williams on the other hand fights a round with a dislocated shoulder and he's a hero for all time, and all of his future underachievements are just glossed aside as all the experts continue to tell us he's awesome on his day.

I just want to know when his day was?


Seriously no boxer has ever had more excuses made for him and had more praise unjustly hepaed upon him than Danny Williams has.

Whenever a boxing expert or pundit talks about Matt Skelton, they are always at pains to stress to us how shit and limited they think he is. Whenever Audley is mentioned they are always at pains to stress to us how delusional he is and how much of a fraud he is.

Yet whenever they mention Danny they always talk about this mythical figure who 'on his day' (and please tell me when that day was!) can beat anybody. :rolleyes:

The fact is a shot Tyson aside he's never beaten anybody. He got a gift against Skelton in the first fight, who avenged it by winning practically every round in the rematch, and he barely beat Audley in the worst fight of the past 100 years when Audley fought an absolute stinker, and Audley himself annihilated him in the rematch.

I just wish people would be honest about Danny Williams. He's a fat, lazy, woefully inconsistent heavyweight who fights only in short burst, but he can bang and when he gets tagged he's dangerous for the next minute or so until he's lulled back into a slumber again.


At his best he's a highlight reel for a world championship calibre fighter.

At his worst he's a name opponent on the record of an otherwise completely unheralded club fighter.

That's it. FACT! :)

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I know this is just a typical silly Bilbo bitch-rant against someone you don't like.. but it's totally absurd, even by your standards, to denigrate a fighter for winning with a dislocated shoulder :rolleyes:

So even though i'm wasting my time, once again - Danny's shoulder first went in the THIRD round, the fight ENDED in the 6th round ;)


"Jeff Lacy fought an entire fight with a dislocated shoulder" ;D

Robbed blind....But I didn't really care...Big "fat" John mcdermott...British champ??

Peach of an uppercut that got Danny reeling though, he was unlucky...or he lacked the skills to finish him off there and then.

Bar that was actually a pretty exiting fight.

Totally agree wtih everything Bilbo says except for the dislocated shoulder thing , that was pretty gutsy for 3 rounds with such an obvious injury.

Williams is OK with a good dig and zero footwork, always has been and always will be. I get waht Bilbo is saying about the bullshit hype, cos I can't think of a single fight where he's actually reached this mythical 'on his day'.

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Totally agree wtih everything Bilbo says except for the dislocated shoulder thing , that was pretty gutsy for 3 rounds with such an obvious injury.

Williams is OK with a good dig and zero footwork, always has been and always will be. I get waht Bilbo is saying about the bullshit hype, cos I can't think of a single fight where he's actually reached this mythical 'on his day'.

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Yeah guys don't misunderstand me, I'll credit him for showing guts fighting with a dislocated shoulder. My point is other fighters have fought with as bad or even worse injuries over many more rounds and yet commentators don't harp on about how brave they are whenever they fight.

Like I said Jeff Lacy. When Lacy fought Peter Manfredo I didn't hear Jim Lampley and Max Kellerman tell us how magnificantly brave Lacy was in his fight against Tyskpo where he tore his rotator cuff at the start of the fight and fought the entire rest of the fight with one arm. No they just said he looked crap last time out.

When Arthur Abraham fights the commentators don't tell us he's a hero who battled through most of his first fight with Miranda with his jaw hanging off his face. In fact I've never heard anyone say how brave and heroic Arthur was on that night, instead all they focus on is the point deductions that Miranda suffered.

Yet when Danny fights his fight with Mark Potter is ALWAYS brought up. On Bunce's talk show midweek they even interviewed Danny to ask what he thought about Rahman quitting against James Toney and then once again pointed out how brave and dedicated Danny was in fighting his fight with a dislocated shoulder against Potter.

It just frustrates me, it was 8 years ago and Danny apart from a win over a shot Tyson has never looked good since.

Yet people still will still say how committed and brave he is, and that how on his day he can beat anybody.

No he cant'! On his day he'll lose to any decent opponent who puts up a good fight, that's the truth! He's a decent domestic level fighter roughly on the same par as the Skeltons and McDermott's of this world.

He couldn't beat any of the current heavyweight champs either now or in his mythical prime.

Furthermore he has a history of being lazy and not training for fights, he nearly always switches off during every fight, and sometimes looks to be sleep boxing.

I've nothing against him really I just get so annoyed that he's the heavyweight that all the British commentators love.

They all seem to rate him the highest out of all our domestic heavies and believe on his day that he is world class, this depsite him never producing a world class performace or even beating a world class fighter. In fact every time he's faced a top level fighter he's been knocked out.

Tyson doesn't count, he was shot as we saw against Kevin McBride.

If we had an all fight all British heavyweight title league challenge with Skelton, Harrison, Sprott, Williams, Haye, McDermott and Gammer I'd bet a LOT of money that Williams wouldn't make the top 3.

I imagine most on here would pick Haye, Skelton and Harrison to beat him as well, and lets face it he's inconsistent enough that he could easily lose to the others.

Yet even if that event happened he'd still be praised for his bravery shown in the Potter fight and his win over Tyson.:-\

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Originally Posted by Fenster

Bilbo you fucking plum, Williams dislocated his shoulder in the 3rd round against Potter

And.. he would have been sickly ROBBED had the THREE points Dave (lost the plot) Parris took cost him the fight.

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Yeah i'm bemused as to why he got 3 points taken off.

The one for the low blow didn't even land. MCd blocked it and it wasn't that low.

The one for the hand in the face was absolutely no different from what Floyd Mayweather did for 10 rounds against Hatton

And for spitting his gumshield out because he was in pain from MCd UFC submission hold.

I've lost all faith in Dave Parris.