Re: Natural Punching Power
Some people do hit hard , straight from the factory. Marciano was like that, according to Charley Goldman. I think it is somewhat akin to somebody that is a natural singer, and there is a similarity between punching and singing. The best way is the natural way- how can baaby scream all night and not become hoarse? And a trained inger loses his voice in an hour? For whatever reason we tend to unlearn what comes naturally and then have to try and relearn it later.
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Yeah that was like me, (I won't dare compare myself to Marciano just yet :P). But I got to the gym, not in any kind of spectacular shape... but I hit hard. I was hitting as hard as some guys that were bigger than me and boxing longer. When my coach asked what I weighed and replied (140lbs), he said, "Man you punch hard for 140, we got some work to do."
I don't know what I and other punchers have that the not so hard hitting boxers don't have. Wish there was a solid explanation.
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I think it works like in other sports. I have been a football coach for eight years,so bear with me. I think a natural puncher punches harder because hes comfertable doing it. Therefor your muscles work more efficiently developing power. The samething with speed. People who have to be taught how to do it just don't develop the efficiency. IMO.
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I think it works like in other sports. I have been a football coach for eight years,so bear with me. I think a natural puncher punches harder because hes comfertable doing it. Therefor your muscles work more efficiently developing power. The samething with speed. People who have to be taught how to do it just don't develop the efficiency. IMO.
kind of. but what makes the genetic difference in hand speed is tendon elasticity. the ket to power is leverage. having "heavy hands" does help some too though.
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It like twins though. They are the some physically. But one always hits harder and or faster. I think its a subconscious response. Sometimes a heavy hitter hits harder but not correctly. And by changing that they lose power sometimes. I think it is mental on a very basic level.
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It like twins though. They are the some physically. But one always hits harder and or faster. I think its a subconscious response. Sometimes a heavy hitter hits harder but not correctly. And by changing that they lose power sometimes. I think it is mental on a very basic level.
I was just adding some stuff to help you. not debating what you have said. i agree with your post, but in everything there is genetics that will determine someones overall potential.
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I understand I was going by everything being equal. Its like compairing Tyson and Forman. I understand from that Tyson hit sharp and Forman hit hard.
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I understand I was going by everything being equal. Its like compairing Tyson and Forman. I understand from that Tyson hit sharp and Forman hit hard.
ok. then we are agreeing. there is more to it than that.
but i was just explaining to you why PHYSICALLY some fighters are faster and harder hitters than each other. i got your point about the twins.
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We agree. Thanks Mag.
Thats Magnum.
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Magnum.
Isnt that a condom. lol
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Magnum.
Isnt that a condom. lol
it is.
there of the trojan brand for guys with big wangs. but apparently you wouldnt know about that.
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After seeing the docter dont need them. ;D
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After seeing the docter dont need them. ;D
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Vasectomy
how old are you? some posts you sound like an adult and then some you sound 12.
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A year or so ago at the gym where I was working this guy would come in almost every night, about 20, taller than me (i'm 6'3") and very very thin, and he'd always go off by himself, not accepting any help minding his business as he did a solid hour to an hour and a half of the oddest bunch of exercises or what ever they were. They looked ridiculous and some would watch and chuckle. One night he asked if I'd give him some work on the punch mitts (he asked me because of my height). He nearly ripped my arms off! He looked like a mechanical version of a fighting gamecock and he hit so hard it was ridiculous. After that h aksed me maybe twice a week and I started hiding around the gym. The thing is, he never hit the heavy bag so I finally had to tell him to beat up on the bag, not me
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lol.
Thanks for the responses guys.
The mental aspect makes sense to me. For some odd reason I have always seen myself as a strong person, even when I was a scronny little prick with no muscles lol. Maybe the power comes from such a strong belief in my ability to punch hard.
Also, when I was putting on weight a couple of years ago at the gym, I was able to bench press 235 when I weighed 150. That didn't take me long at all to accomplish either.
So I think you guys are right... genetics and mindset might just equal power.