2 of the guys gave me this idea ive always thought Vitali was better he just gets stuck in and isn't scared of being hit.
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2 of the guys gave me this idea ive always thought Vitali was better he just gets stuck in and isn't scared of being hit.
Wlad is a much better boxer than Vitali but has a weak chin and eventually a fit and active Vitali would beat him.
Wlad is the better boxer , no doubt, but as a fighter Viltali is far better and would do better againest the worlds best ,
Vitali for me, not by a long way but he is the better fighter of the two.
Anyone else ever hope one would shag the others wife or something and fight because of it? Maybe it's just me;D
Well you know i'm going for Vitali
All around it has to be Wlad.
Vitali.
VK... No doubt
Wow and I thought that Lyle would be the only person to vote Wlad.Quote:
Originally Posted by CutMeMick
I actually quite like Wlad like I said the other day on another thread because I believe without him the heavyweight division would be an absolute farce. He takes a lot of the blame because he is the top man and he isn't the most exciting to watch (or he hasn't been recently). But if you put Vitali (before he retired) in the ring with Wlad I think he would obliterate him.
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Originally Posted by rjj tszyuWow and I thought that Lyle would be the only person to vote Wlad.Quote:
Originally Posted by CutMeMick
I actually quite like Wlad like I said the other day on another thread because I believe without him the heavyweight division would be an absolute farce. He takes a lot of the blame because he is the top man and he isn't the most exciting to watch (or he hasn't been recently). But if you put Vitali (before he retired) in the ring with Wlad I think he would obliterate him.
Agreed.
Where is Lyles vote anyway?
You'll see him when he gets here... Wlad will walk through the door... Look about four feet below Wlad's head and you'll find Lyle swinging from his nuts... ;D
As a boxer wlads probably better, but if they ever fought vitali would win i think.
No doubt Wladimir Klitschko is but if the two brothers would of fought eachother Vitali would of won no doubt in my mind but say what you want about Wladimir Klitschko he has a good jab and excellent technical skills if he had a better chin he would engage more.Quote:
Originally Posted by tysonbruno
For years Lyle, myself along with some others have defended and backed both Klitshckos. I always rooted for Vitali more because he had more fight in him then the more tactical Wlad but now that Vitalis semi-retired (which I think he shouldn't even bother coming back) I've backed Wlad for yrs. When he lost to Sanders I was mauled and laughed at but hey I'm still here backign him up.Quote:
Originally Posted by rjj tszyuWow and I thought that Lyle would be the only person to vote Wlad.Quote:
Originally Posted by CutMeMick
I actually quite like Wlad like I said the other day on another thread because I believe without him the heavyweight division would be an absolute farce. He takes a lot of the blame because he is the top man and he isn't the most exciting to watch (or he hasn't been recently). But if you put Vitali (before he retired) in the ring with Wlad I think he would obliterate him.
vitali
Wlad easily
But the chin is a great equalizer
Good point. If Wlad had Vitali's chin he'd be better....Quote:
Originally Posted by miron_lang
Does that make sense?
I guess i mean Wlad is slightly better technically, but Vitali has a rock chin so would win.
Vitali was probably the more aggressive of the two.
In my opinion this was the difference.
I find it odd that two brothers can move so differently. Vitali is much more loose, naturally displaying more athleticism and perhaps ability.
Wlad has worked hard, but remains robotic and there are fla3ws in his movement.
Vitali I feel was the better fighter, but I think Wlad will go on to achieve more.
Hey I do like the guy. Just think his brother was/is betterQuote:
Originally Posted by CutMeMickFor years Lyle, myself along with some others have defended and backed both Klitshckos. I always rooted for Vitali more because he had more fight in him then the more tactical Wlad but now that Vitalis semi-retired (which I think he shouldn't even bother coming back) I've backed Wlad for yrs. When he lost to Sanders I was mauled and laughed at but hey I'm still here backign him up.Quote:
Originally Posted by rjj tszyuWow and I thought that Lyle would be the only person to vote Wlad.Quote:
Originally Posted by CutMeMick
I actually quite like Wlad like I said the other day on another thread because I believe without him the heavyweight division would be an absolute farce. He takes a lot of the blame because he is the top man and he isn't the most exciting to watch (or he hasn't been recently). But if you put Vitali (before he retired) in the ring with Wlad I think he would obliterate him.
...I'm not sure if you realized this but I'm coming to Boston soon:foruml10gc5:Quote:
Originally Posted by PRIDE OF BOSTON
As for the better fighter Vitali 33(32KO)-2 and Wladimir 51 (45KO)-3.....so WLAD by almost 20 wins
JCC Jr. best Jr. Middleweight in the World????Quote:
Originally Posted by Lyle...I'm not sure if you realized this but I'm coming to Boston soon:foruml10gc5:Quote:
Originally Posted by PRIDE OF BOSTON
As for the better fighter Vitali 33(32KO)-2 and Wladimir 51 (45KO)-3.....so WLAD by almost 20 wins
Who held the most belts? Who's beaten better competition? Who has won more fights? Who has KO'd the most guys?
Wladimir!
Who take's wicked gay pictures with their brother?Quote:
Originally Posted by Lyle
http://blog.kievukraine.info/4546.jpg
I happen to like that pic... :-XQuote:
Originally Posted by PRIDE OF BOSTONWho take's wicked gay pictures with their brother?Quote:
Originally Posted by Lyle
http://blog.kievukraine.info/4546.jpg
By the way POB you ain't seen ghey! yet... Guess you've never seen this one?
(Right click and then choose to open Link in new window)
http://www.wallpapergate.com/data/me...others_001.jpg
it's blocked at work.... What?... is it a pic of JT Rock with all his "friends"
wlad is the more skilled of the 2
Nah! it's a pic of both Klitschkos necked (up to the waist line) with Vitali standing behind Wlad. :bananasex:Quote:
Originally Posted by PRIDE OF BOSTON
I have to say Wlad simply because Vitali is so injury prone. The only time I've ever seen him fight was against Lennox and I give him hella kudos because of the heart he showed, but his body breaks more than a street dancer.
I think the opposite is true, Vitali is robotic and Wlad the fluid boxer.Quote:
Originally Posted by hitmandonny
Wlad's gonna carry you all the way here?Quote:
Originally Posted by Lyle...I'm not sure if you realized this but I'm coming to Boston soon:foruml10gc5:Quote:
Originally Posted by PRIDE OF BOSTON
Pride.... we used to get along...I would HATE to have to go kick your ass while I'm in Boston. I'll be on vacation so I want to relax but if you want to schedule an asswhuppin then I guess I can free up some time.
And I know a guy with as much hair gel as you and a manicured beard like you have isn't calling ANYONE else gay.
Well, as far as scheduling an ass kicking?... Im good... Thanks for the offer but I can't take Wlad on... ;D;DQuote:
Originally Posted by Lyle
;D I grew up in Rhode Island(Federal Hill)... Everyone talks with a New york accent, has orange tans and blowout haircuts:hair:... I'm glad I got out before being assimilated. So the hair gel is a remnant of that...
But seriously... You can't hate on me for setting the standard for awesomeness since 1982;D
Well if you're not going to allow me to kick some sense into you then I guess I'll just go to the SAWX games and drink my beer and get freaky with all the women who talk like Lois from Family Guy
Wen are you coming...?
August 13th-17th I believe
Belts don't mean what they used to anymore. Vitali beat everyone who got put in front of him with the exception of Byrd and Lewis and in both of them it was injuries that cost him the fight and not neccesarily the opponent. Vitali whupped Sanders after he destroyed Wlad. Vitali has a better KO percentage. If they fought each other Vitali would KO Wlad but it would never happen for obvious reasons.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lyle
Please Lyle think about it long and hard and ask yourself honestly who would win if they could fight each other in their primes. For me it has to be Vitali just for his ability to take a shot and his more fiery nature!
No one wants to give Wlad any credit at all and it's not comparing them in a head to head fight the question simply states "who is better" and whatver you think of Wlad he has some longevity in his career that Vitali doesn't and he has started to unify titles which Vitali couldn't do because of his injuries.
Vitali sure could take punches....Wladimir doesn't have to take punishment to dish it out they fight in different styles which suit what they wanted to accomplish as fighters and make them comfortable in the ring. You can't ask Wlad to be more like Vitali just like you can't ask Vitali to be more like Wlad.
And Vitali doesn't get much respect either, people are only looking at him now in a longing fashion and wishing he'd come back but he dominated people in much the same way Wladimir did in a methodical measured way and when he got someone hurt he put them away. Vitali got ripped when he fought Sanders and Williams....people b.i.t.c.h.e.d about him like they do Wlad and if Vitali comes back they'll complain again, just wait and see
Either way Wlad has the longevity but he has a stigma attached to him so if he continues his winning streak and retires undefeated he's not going to be considered better than anyone just because people like to b.i.t.c.h about him. He knocks guys out and fights the guys that are infront of him and that's all that matters
Right I'll tell you again I respect Wlad always have done. But to me who is better means who would beat who when it is put like this. Its like saying that Norton was better than Foreman because he had better text book boxing skills, when we know what happened when they really did fight.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lyle
At the end of the day the chin (which I believe is the defining factor here) is part of being a boxer right? Just in the way ring smarts and punching power is (which Wlad MAY have over Vitali).
Vitali did get ripped but it was nothing like Wlad gets now. Thats because he was a lot more exciting to watch than Wlad because he simply had more confidence in his chin.
I will always fight Wlads corner but this is just one fight that I don't believe he could win. Anyway I believe that Vitali and Peter have got a date sorted so that should give us some indication of what he has left, and if he is still the man that retired a few years ago then I think he will destroy Peter and I definitley don't see him decking Vitali 3 times like he did Wlad.
I doubt Sam Peter troubles Wladimir if they have a rematch which IF Sam Peter is to get past Vitali they most certainly will. I think Wladimir is confident in his offense and confident in what to do if he's in trouble that he's going to start letting his hands go more.
Wlad has fought 2 southpaws in a row...that's a tough order for anyone. I don't think there is a major title holder in any weight class that has done that recently.
Wlad KO's Ray Austin in 2 and gets shit talked about him.....Wlad KO's Tony Thompson who had never been down much less KO'd and gets shit talked about him....it's ridiculous.
I respect your view but I say Wlad is the better boxer as he has been at his highest level for a longer period of time than Vitali.