What do you guys think of him as a fighter? his achievement? and so on
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What do you guys think of him as a fighter? his achievement? and so on
Fought in a weak era , folded like a pack of cards when he fought world class guys who fought back.
Loved watching him in the mid 80's- 90's, but now i feel he looked much better than he actually was.
A BULLY , thats my opinion.
One of the most exiting boxers ever, very skilled in his prime when he had confidence and dicipline. Shame it all went tits up like it did and he started eating people in the ring or snapping their arms off lol.
He is one of my fav's exitement wise, even when he fought inferior opposition I paid to watch it.
Youngest heavyweight champion is his greatest acheivement
Exactly. He would be ideal in this day and age. He was exciting and could punch extremely hard, But as dark lord rightly said he LOOKED much better than he really was.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dark Lord Al
That's nothing to do with Tyson but I agree with most of that he was just a bully, but a bully can always be bullied.......and he was.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dark Lord Al
Jesus these threads are tiring..... a fighters name and then 7 question marks... followed by what do you think:rolleyes:
Gee why dont you start a thread called Peanut Butter and Jelly Sandwich???????
What do you guys think:rolleyes:
not to mention we can dig up anyone of the 10000000000000000000 Mike Tyson threads that were more thought provoking than this one for your answer
says the OLD GUARD. You better listen.:cool:Quote:
Originally Posted by JT Rock
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Exciting fighter with amazing balance great combination punching and probably one of the fastest Heavyweights ever only Floyd Patterson and Muhammad Ali are in Mike Tysons league in the speed department and i think his speed contributed alot to his power. The problem is for Mike Tyson is that at the time he come along most of the 80s Heavyweight talent were shot fighters and plus Mike Tyson never beat a great fighter in there prime so we will never know how good he really was because he was never really tested and i think you only see the best in a fighter when there severely challenged because you see there heart, will, and you see them got into another gear amongst plenty of other things sadly for Mike Tyson his era wasn't that great so there was no fighter at that time to really teste but in my opinion he could of been of the best Heavyweights ever and only very few Heavyweights could beat Mike Tyson at his peak.
Holyfield and Lennox would still have beat him at any point!Quote:
Originally Posted by ssss
I wouldn't say Holyfield or Lennox beat Tyson in his peak years.Quote:
Originally Posted by rjj tszyuHolyfield and Lennox would still have beat him at any point!Quote:
Originally Posted by ssss
The young wreckless Lennox Lewis would of been KO'ed and so would the older more intelligent Lewis even when Lewis went with Steward he still got caught against lesser fighters and was hurt against Ray Mercer Shannon Briggs Zeljko Mavrovic and against an older Evander Holyfield and as for Evander Holyfield he could fight smart but often he let his pride get in the way and he took far too much punishment like against Bert Cooper Alex Stewart just to name a few and no one could get brave and stand toe to toe with a prime Mike Tyson in my opinion anyway.Quote:
Originally Posted by rjj tszyuHolyfield and Lennox would still have beat him at any point!Quote:
Originally Posted by ssss
I totally agree;)Quote:
Originally Posted by ssssThe young wreckless Lennox Lewis would of been KO'ed and so would the older more intelligent Lewis even when Lewis went with Steward he still got caught against lesser fighters and was hurt against Ray Mercer Shannon Briggs Zeljko Mavrovic and against an older Evander Holyfield and as for Evander Holyfield he could fight smart but often he let his pride get in the way and he took far too much punishment like against Bert Cooper Alex Stewart just to name a few and no one could get brave and stand toe to toe with a prime Mike Tyson in my opinion anyway.Quote:
Originally Posted by rjj tszyuHolyfield and Lennox would still have beat him at any point!Quote:
Originally Posted by ssss
Holyfield has tyson number he was tougher mentally and there no way tyson can knock out a prime Holyfeild. be the same wear him down and knock himout like he did last time they fought dont bring up Tyson was not prime because Holyfeild was older more battle worn and heart condition. Tyson is lucky he fought in the weakest era of boxing since the rock maybe weaker even.
On the whole he should be classed as great.
However without Cus he was never whole.
Tyson lacked mental stability. This presented itself as a lack of fortitude when up against tough times. Tyson had he been with Cus would have been a far better boxer.
Maybe not but I think they would have done. Who did Tyson actually beat at his peak? Bruno? bum. Holmes? Old man. Spinks? Lightheavy. Ruddock? Look what Lennox did to him. Tyson was never as good as the media made him out to be. A lot of people (me included) thought he was better than he really was and a lot of fighters were beaten before they got in the ring because they were frightened of him. An ideal example is Bonecrusher he went in clearly just to survive and then when he hit Tyson right at the end he nearly KO'd him in fact I think that had he landed that punch in the middle rounds he would have knocked Tyson outQuote:
Originally Posted by tysonbrunoI wouldn't say Holyfield or Lennox beat Tyson in his peak years.Quote:
Originally Posted by rjj tszyuHolyfield and Lennox would still have beat him at any point!Quote:
Originally Posted by ssss
Even with Cus in his corner Mike Tyson's style is only good for youthful fighters so his decline would still have been quick much like Floyd Patterson's.
Mike Tyson is a Great fighter but he's at least behind Lewis and Holyfield.
In his prime a very exiting disciplined fighter that did the most with his potential...great hand speed, excellent power in both hands and relentless pressure...He fought in a weak era and was not able to maintain the longevity at top that makes someone an ATG...I will also say that in his prime he would have given any of the ATG's a great fight, unfortunately his prime was so short...
Youngest heavyweight champion is a great achievement that no one can take away from him...
A great fighter victimized by his own success. He drank his own kool-aid and put it on cruise control when the guy he was getting ready to fight was supposed to be easy. He could have been greater had he not gone to prison or if the great fighters of the 90s had been great in the 80s, but he took what was available.
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Originally Posted by Dark Lord Al
WOW!
That sounds exactly like what I was going to say!:o
I believe in his prime he was the greatest of all time. Virtually unbeatable. Later in his career, I also think of it as one of the saddest. He had the stuff, but it all fell apart. :(Quote:
Originally Posted by tysonbruno
Sylvester Stallone should've based the Rocky movies on THAT fight instead. ;D;D;DQuote:
Originally Posted by Killface
Achievements/Personal Assessment:
Youngest Heavyweight Champ
Most 1st round QUALITY kayos in Heavyweight history
Epitomy of POWER=Speed X Strength
Incredible power to weight ratio compared to todays Heavyweights
Tyson at 5'11" and 220 lbs has more destructive power compared to fighters who is much taller and heavier.
Legacy could've been better if he has fought and beaten more quality opponents.
He could've been my superhero boxer if he was just a nicer person.
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Originally Posted by JT Rock
wow
it has taken all this time for someone else to finaly say this guy's threads are a complete waste of time. That He brings nothing to any debate and purly asks a question and never gives any real opinion on it backed upp with an explanation.
You might get a So and so????? he is shit, or he is great but no reaosns for it...
This guy makes VD look a half decent poster.