I know that Jeff had a bad night on Wednesday, but I sure didn't see this coming.
Maybe he's saying it in the heat of the moment. :dontknow:
St. Pete's Lacy Says He Is Retiring
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I know that Jeff had a bad night on Wednesday, but I sure didn't see this coming.
Maybe he's saying it in the heat of the moment. :dontknow:
St. Pete's Lacy Says He Is Retiring
Taylor has no excuses now to face Froch.
Actually this doesn't come as a surprise. The guy knows what he has left to give and may just feel he has nothing left that will be big enough to make a stamp at the top.
Damn, i was just going to say that. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by leftylee
A shame really because I really like Lacy but it really has been an uphill struggle since Calzaghe. He's not had the best of fortune and if he is struggling to beat Manfredo then he really isnt ready to face Taylor.
This is probably a very sensible decision. I wish him all the best.
I was hoping to see more of Jeff Lacy even though he is a shot fighter he still is entertaining and is a good guy to root for but if he does retire respect to him because it takes alot of will power to stop doing something you love doing it is a shame if he retires but he knows himself what he is feeling inside and none of us can judge him.
I'm was getting afraid of what Taylor would do to Lacy. I mean he looked good early, but as soon as he got hurt he went wild and lost all his composure against Mendoza.
Froch has a good set of fresh legs under him and would be a much better opponent for Taylor. It will also be a good test to see where Taylor stands at this point.
:-\ Thats all I can say... Truly a sad day for me, my top 2 fighters retireing a month apart..
I rather see Lacy go like this then get brutally defeated and embarassed... I think Floyd Mayweather sr would have been perfect for Jeff a real down to earth guy with defensive prowess and technique
Just plain gutted and crushed:(
You're the first person I thought of when I seen this. I know that you have been a long time supporter of his, so I knew you wouldn't like seeing this, and I almost didn't post it, because I didn't want to bum you out on the day of the big fight.Quote:
Originally Posted by JT Rock
Who knows, maybe he's just saying it in the heat of the moment. I just read another article where Winky Wright says that he thinks that Jeff is just frustrated with the business, and he doesn't think that he will retire. I guess we'll see.
Hang in there. :-*
Thinking about this again i don't think Jeff Lacy has it in him to quit he is a proud man and comes accross as the type of guy that doesn't quit in anything he does i honestly can't seem him retiring i just think he is really frustrated that he knows he can perform better and im sure his training is all well and good but he just can't perform on the night i thought he looked fine against Vitali Tsypko until his shoulder gave out i would say that was his last good performance maybe the injury is still bothering him.
It may have just been a heat of the moment thing unless Jeff injured himself during the fight. If he injured himself, I could see him getting disgusted enough to walk away.Quote:
Originally Posted by JT Rock
I still do not want him in against Taylor at this point though. He needs to get his ring composure back.
Thanks I'll try to... Jeff just dosent seem like himself even before this fight in the lead up he just has a different way about him hard to explain... I know this sounds even dumber but when I saw that strange beard on him it was odd and un Lacy like...Quote:
Originally Posted by DianeYou're the first person I thought of when I seen this. I know that you have been a long time supporter of his, so I knew you wouldn't like seeing this, and I almost didn't post it, because I didn't want to bum you out on the day of the big fight.Quote:
Originally Posted by JT Rock
Who knows, maybe he's just saying it in the heat of the moment. I just read another article where Winky Wright says that he thinks that Jeff is just frustrated with the business, and he doesn't think that he will retire. I guess we'll see.
Hang in there. :-*
All I was gonna say too is that even if this fight came off Jermain was still on the tail end of 2 Pavlik losses and seemed a little off his game too, so even though Taylor is the favorite I wasnt convinced he was a favorite by much
Fighters say a lot of things when they're still emotional after a fight. I'd be pretty surprised if he walks away from what should be a nice payday against Taylor.
I hope he retires he may have pay days but he is not the same fighter and would loose at the top level every time he fought there. He was going to lose to Taylor and he probably would fight another 3 fights against lower tier opponents and then lose again to a Pavlik, Arthur Abraham's etc.
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Originally Posted by ssss
If he is a quitter we would have seen after 4 rounds with joe
I honestly think this leaves us with a better fight anyway . froch vs taylor is a much more exciting tear up .
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Originally Posted by leftylee
Heard already that they plan to duck Froch again and fight Miranda in November.
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Originally Posted by leftylee
Heard already that they plan to duck Froch again and fight Miranda in November.
Miranda who just got sparked in 3 by Abraham :rolleyes:
If Taylor takes that fight over Carl I will lose all respect for him. He was supposed to fight Miranda b4 but Kelly beat him to it .
Carl is much more deserving
Just a thought; but does the $$$ really matter to Lacy for a Taylor fight? I mean, the guy seems to want to either be known as a good solid fighter; or with this retirement talk a guy who will walk away before he gets booed away.
A fight with Taylor, who is coming off two losses to Pavlik and who has been called by some more of a paper champion than a true great middleweight, is risky. It is very likely he'll lose a fight against Taylor; and then what does that leave in the way of any sort of "legacy", if you will, to Jeff's career? I think Jeff would rather walk away than lose to a guy{probably decisively} that is already being touted as "not that great" or "on his way out". I don't see the $$$ being that big for a Taylor fight; so is itreally worth it?
My mind is wired today for this fight tonight, + lack of sleep, so apologies if this post is incoherent:-\
Holy.....................
I did not expect this at all. When all is said and done Lacy was really between a rock and a hard place in his career, once reality sets in, with the injuries and the difficulties in recent fights he's had, I can't see him having much except frustration from top of the world at 168 to where he is now without much to look forward to except getting paychecks in the future, I can understand his decision. He has incredible heart and is a warrior through and through, but I think reality is setting in he realizes where he stands in the food chain and realizes how critical boxing fans are. Hate to see it from such a nice guy, but then maybe it's not a bad idea to get out while he still has all his marbles.
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Originally Posted by TommyGunn_Damn, i was just going to say that. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by leftylee
You guys are living in a fantasy world if you think Taylor is ducking or anyhting remotely close to that in regards to Froch.
In my Chris Penn voice, "No here's the news, no one is ducking Froch."
I doubt he is really retired, just probably tired of hearing "he's never been the same since the Calzaghe fight." There is a lot of negativity among boxing fans and critics alike when you bring up the name Jeff Lacy and things like that can take its toll.
Jeff is a good guy, I hate that he jumped to the big leagues too soon but he gave his all and if he stays retired I wish him the best.
I like Lacy but he's been hurt and he's getting older, he's more than likely frustrated at the way his career has gone as are his fans who along with the Taylor fans were always wanting to see them fight.
Taylor could take on any number of guys at 168...I think he's a good fighter and he's going to keep making noise in 168 and even 175
It's smart of LAcy to call it a day...because he's finished. The Calzaghe beating ruined him for life as a fighter. he would have been better off getting ko'd early by Cal. He's now struggling with anyone he faces .
I think being an amateur for so long ruined him....he had 209 wins and 12 losses. That's a lot of fights for a guy who went pro at age 24....had he started out earlier and then gone pro at 20 or something that would have been different but in the amateurs he more than likely tried to use his size advantage to win fights and he fell in love with his power and well you just have to be really special to rely on your power that much....he needed to be able to box more and being a pro earlier would have helped him out.
WELL THATS THE THING THAT MAKES ME WONDER, IF HES DONE WHY IS HE GETTING A CHANCE TO FACE TAYLOR WHOSE A TOP CONTENDER FOR A TITLE.Quote:
Originally Posted by rene69
AND IF HE IS GOING TO RETIRE, WHATS THE POINT IN GIVING UP A HUGE PADAY KNOWING THAT IF U RETIRE LACYIS REALLY NEVER GOING TO BE REMEMBERED AS A GREAT BOXER (HES NOT GOING DOWN IN HISTORY), HE SHOULD HAVE TOOK THIS FIGHT GET THE GET THE 7- DIGIT CHECK AND THEN RETIRE,
I HONESTLY THINK THAT HE HAD NOTHING TO LOSE GOING INTO THE TAYLOR FIGHT.
I WONDER WHAT HE MIGHT BY DIRTY IN THE BUSINESS....I WANT TO KNOW WHAT HE THINNKS
Wow!Sometimes they burn like a streaking meteor and the fire is gone before you know it.Really rough...I was never too big on Lacy but enjoyed watching him as you knew he would always keep coming and sell out for the power.It may have come back to bite him.I was truly surprised at the Mendoza fight and just some of his reactions and looks in there.In hindsight,If Mendoza was effective at times with the Jab,the thought of what Taylor's jab and straight right would do is daunting.The pressure was not there as it once was & He was just getting clipped way to easily and his always pretty solid chin looked abit tattered.I always thought he was rushed and pushed abit but what ever he ultimately decides for he & Family,I wish him luck.
Lacy, Wright and you can add Ward have long been my favorite fighters. So obviously it's a bit sad to see your favorite fighter retire, but I'm glad. He went out in a very good way in the 10th round versus Mendoza where it was plain to see that he didn't have it all with him and he was fighting past his best, but he still gutted out a final round victory to take a points decision, one he deserved imo.
So it's nice to see that. In the postfight interview, he was starting to slur his words a bit. I really doubt he needs the money. He owns his own house in Las Vegas, is part owner of a couple bars in St. Petersburg so I don't think he has many problems in that department. I'm very glad, Taylor is a very skilled boxer who I'm sure watched how Mendoza landed those uppercuts and began licking his chops. It's a good deal for Lacy, it might not stick, but I wouldn't mind if he did.
Always a bit sad but more relief then sadness to be honest.
I feel that way to Amat... a little relieved that he didnt get thrashed again liked Calzaghe did to him, or end a fight tits up. I'm sure that you recognized he hasnt been Lacy like in his personality latelyQuote:
Originally Posted by amat
Taking money completely out of the equation, i think it's the right decision that he quits the game. He has been deeply depressed with his loss, injury and criticsm of late and if the mind isn't right, then your just gonna get flattened at some point. I thought Taylor might have had some scars in the Pavlik rematch, but he was neck and neck for the full 12 rounds.
Wheras Lacy just looked crude and a class below the others out there at the moment. Sure he'd be a great opponent for Edison Miranda or someone of that nature, but a skilled operator would take him apart.
I just hope now Mick Hennessy ignores Dibella's calls now, as Lou ignored his last week.
Two Majority Decisions and a hideous UD against Manfredo will do that to you.
Besides, he can feel the sting of the Calzaghe ass whippin' and knows a fight with Jermain Taylor would just be a rehash. I know I wouldn't do it if I watched my last four fights and saw what we saw.
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Originally Posted by LEGION
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Originally Posted by Diane
Damn! :mad:
Why could we just not get Mikkel vs. Jeff in Florida before he retired?
Sad, sad and sad :confused:
I really hate this LacyMania II - anyone is saying: "before he was so and so good and could KO anyone" - no, he has always been very limited - just be professional and look at his fights vs. Thompson, Sheika and Vanderpool - he really WAS NOT good as a pro. Just like his international amateur career. Average - like it or not.
But he was black, American and the sole hope in SMW in The States - so he was built up to be good.
Anyone who saw Lacy being slaughtered against Gaidarbek Gaidarbekov in the Olympics would never have contributed to the stupid Lacymania - at best Lacy had heart and lately became a nice guy - but skills at world level, not!!!!
Gaidarbek Gaidarbekov did to Lacy what Calzaghe had to use 12 rounds of boxing to do in just 7 minutes. Lacy was outboxed and saved by mercy.
First Troll of the night I see....:bucktooth:
Lacy should stands his grounds and fights Kessler in Florida - I hate when boxers chickens out like Lacy.
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Originally Posted by Steffer
why would you had Lacy to commit suicide
by fighting Kessler;D
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Originally Posted by jangeorgQuote:
Originally Posted by Steffer
why would you had Lacy to commit suicide
by fighting Kessler;D
Due to his big mouth - "First, I will be Champion in SMW and then LH and finally in MW" :Jeff Lacy
Lacy was winning but still not pointing in a positive direction.....his fans are sad, but it's smart to know when to just get gone. Not worth risking your health to prove something to fans and media who wont give a crap about you when you're studdering your words trying to read a book to your grandkids one day cause you wanted to prove how tough you are, the window opens and closes and it's a short time usually in boxing, the smart one's see that and close it themselves on thier own terms...
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Bla Bla Bla Bla Bla Bla Bla Bla Bla Bla - your words are wise especially if you spoke before everyone knew, Lacy was average at best....