I get mad at some of my fellow PR boxing fans.

Last night... even my own brother-in-law. "Cotto didn't fight the right fight.... he should've gone to the body more (agreed).... he would've won if he'd done this... he would've won if he'd done that... blah, blah, blah.

Sometimes we're too harsh on our own fighters. I thought Cotto did a remarkable job of moving, boxing, counterpunching Margarito, at least in the first 6-7 rounds. But Tony's chin... it's unbreakable. I've never seen anything like it. Sure... Cotto could've gone more to the body. But it's not like Margarito was going to stay still and not fire some lethal uppercuts while Cotto was concentrating on the body. Cotto needed to go to the head as well.

Hey... we lost. What can you say? Here in Puerto Rico we say "you gotta bring both bags... one for the win, and one for the loss." This time we took the loss. But it was a memorable fight, and nothing to be ashamed of. Cotto is still a Puerto Rican boxing hero.

I think Cotto's stock went up in that fight as it showed his chin, boxing ability, and stamina for a guy who everyone thinks of is a plodding one trick pony.


He fought his heart out and has nothing to be ashamed of there wasn't much more he could do

Cotto is a great boxer/puncher and im sure anyone else he would have beat on that form just he got tired and discouraged when his shots bounced off.

I thought he was on the verge of quitting after rd7 but he fought his heart out despite his lack of chin.

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Hatton got lynched over here for not moving enough against PBF and while the hardcore fan realises his only real chance was by standing and trading and turning the boxing contest into a fight the mutual spectator will always find fault in a losing performance.

I personally think cotto showed more heart than he ever did against zab early on or the 1st 4-5 rounds with torres.

There is no shame on collapsing onto 1 knee and admitting to yourself, your family and your millions of fans that you simply have nothing left to offer.

Cotto-margarito II is hopefully a formality and cotto becoming the hunter as opposed to the prey may just work in his favour

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this happens..

Hatton got lynched over here for not moving enough against PBF and while the hardcore fan realises his only real chance was by standing and trading and turning the boxing contest into a fight the mutual spectator will always find fault in a losing performance.

I personally think cotto showed more heart than he ever did against zab early on or the 1st 4-5 rounds with torres.

There is no shame on collapsing onto 1 knee and admitting to yourself, your family and your millions of fans that you simply have nothing left to offer.

Cotto-margarito II is hopefully a formality and cotto becoming the hunter as opposed to the prey may just work in his favour

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Cotto wont fight Margarito anytime soon it would be career suicide to lose to him twice.

Clottey or Cintron would probably be on Cottos hit list.

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this happens..

Hatton got lynched over here for not moving enough against PBF and while the hardcore fan realises his only real chance was by standing and trading and turning the boxing contest into a fight the mutual spectator will always find fault in a losing performance.

I personally think cotto showed more heart than he ever did against zab early on or the 1st 4-5 rounds with torres.

There is no shame on collapsing onto 1 knee and admitting to yourself, your family and your millions of fans that you simply have nothing left to offer.

Cotto-margarito II is hopefully a formality and cotto becoming the hunter as opposed to the prey may just work in his favour

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Cotto wont fight Margarito anytime soon it would be career suicide to lose to him twice.

Clottey or Cintron would probably be on Cottos hit list.

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before last night cotto was considered by many the greatest p4p fighter in boxing at the moment and before the 11th i like many scored the fight dead even if not slightly in favour for cotto.

Why on earth at this stage of his career would he jump back 3steps and fight someone we all know he`ll have no trouble beating when it is quite feasible to believe cotto would win any rematch with margarito.

I think paul williams may just have a say over whether miguel gets this rematch, but im quite sure if you asked cotto tonight what he wants next he`ll tell you vengeance and his titles back from marg!!

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this happens..

Hatton got lynched over here for not moving enough against PBF and while the hardcore fan realises his only real chance was by standing and trading and turning the boxing contest into a fight the mutual spectator will always find fault in a losing performance.

I personally think cotto showed more heart than he ever did against zab early on or the 1st 4-5 rounds with torres.

There is no shame on collapsing onto 1 knee and admitting to yourself, your family and your millions of fans that you simply have nothing left to offer.

Cotto-margarito II is hopefully a formality and cotto becoming the hunter as opposed to the prey may just work in his favour

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Cotto wont fight Margarito anytime soon it would be career suicide to lose to him twice.

Clottey or Cintron would probably be on Cottos hit list.

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before last night cotto was considered by many the greatest p4p fighter in boxing at the moment and before the 11th i like many scored the fight dead even if not slightly in favour for cotto.

Why on earth at this stage of his career would he jump back 3steps and fight someone we all know he`ll have no trouble beating when it is quite feasible to believe cotto would win any rematch with margarito.

I think paul williams may just have a say over whether miguel gets this rematch, but im quite sure if you asked cotto tonight what he wants next he`ll tell you vengeance and his titles back from marg!!

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Cotto was broke mentally by the 7th round and yes they are not big names but Clottey gave Marg a hell of a fight and Cintron is PR its easily marketable. After all he cant fight Tony every fight and if he did i think he would lose everytime next time im willing to bet even quicker.

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this happens..

Hatton got lynched over here for not moving enough against PBF and while the hardcore fan realises his only real chance was by standing and trading and turning the boxing contest into a fight the mutual spectator will always find fault in a losing performance.

I personally think cotto showed more heart than he ever did against zab early on or the 1st 4-5 rounds with torres.

There is no shame on collapsing onto 1 knee and admitting to yourself, your family and your millions of fans that you simply have nothing left to offer.

Cotto-margarito II is hopefully a formality and cotto becoming the hunter as opposed to the prey may just work in his favour

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Cotto wont fight Margarito anytime soon it would be career suicide to lose to him twice.

Clottey or Cintron would probably be on Cottos hit list.

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Totally disagree. Was it career suicide for Taylor losing to Pavlik twice?

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this happens..

Hatton got lynched over here for not moving enough against PBF and while the hardcore fan realises his only real chance was by standing and trading and turning the boxing contest into a fight the mutual spectator will always find fault in a losing performance.

I personally think cotto showed more heart than he ever did against zab early on or the 1st 4-5 rounds with torres.

There is no shame on collapsing onto 1 knee and admitting to yourself, your family and your millions of fans that you simply have nothing left to offer.

Cotto-margarito II is hopefully a formality and cotto becoming the hunter as opposed to the prey may just work in his favour

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I would like to see Cotto get his confidence back before he gets back in with Tony.

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I think Cotto's stock went up in that fight as it showed his chin, boxing ability, and stamina for a guy who everyone thinks of is a plodding one trick pony.


He fought his heart out and has nothing to be ashamed of there wasn't much more he could do

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Great post.

This fight was won by Margarito's mutant chin.;D

Good post bro, I know us Mexicans would have done or said the same if Margo lost.

Anyone who criticizes Cotto's performance should get in the ring with Margarito and do better. I have nothing but the greatest respect for two warriors like these guys.

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I think Cotto's stock went up in that fight as it showed his chin, boxing ability, and stamina for a guy who everyone thinks of is a plodding one trick pony.


He fought his heart out and has nothing to be ashamed of there wasn't much more he could do

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Great post.

This fight was won by Margarito's mutant chin.;D

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I agree with you entirely. Margarito's chin is what broke Cotto. Someone who usually makes fighters crumble with whatever he throws, and Margarito not only took his best shots, but he kept comin forward relentlessly. I hadnt seen anything like that in far too long and i admire his resolve to get the job done at any cost.

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this happens..

Hatton got lynched over here for not moving enough against PBF and while the hardcore fan realises his only real chance was by standing and trading and turning the boxing contest into a fight the mutual spectator will always find fault in a losing performance.

I personally think cotto showed more heart than he ever did against zab early on or the 1st 4-5 rounds with torres.

There is no shame on collapsing onto 1 knee and admitting to yourself, your family and your millions of fans that you simply have nothing left to offer.

Cotto-margarito II is hopefully a formality and cotto becoming the hunter as opposed to the prey may just work in his favour

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Cotto wont fight Margarito anytime soon it would be career suicide to lose to him twice.

Clottey or Cintron would probably be on Cottos hit list.

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before last night cotto was considered by many the greatest p4p fighter in boxing at the moment and before the 11th i like many scored the fight dead even if not slightly in favour for cotto.

Why on earth at this stage of his career would he jump back 3steps and fight someone we all know he`ll have no trouble beating when it is quite feasible to believe cotto would win any rematch with margarito.

I think paul williams may just have a say over whether miguel gets this rematch, but im quite sure if you asked cotto tonight what he wants next he`ll tell you vengeance and his titles back from marg!!

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Cintron has been blasted twice by Marg and the second earlier this year so what are you smoking? Clottey looks like the guy providing he gets by Zab. Please do not try selling me a ZAb vs Margarito fight. This cat Zab has how many lives?

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Cotto wont fight Margarito anytime soon it would be career suicide to lose to him twice.

Clottey or Cintron would probably be on Cottos hit list.

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before last night cotto was considered by many the greatest p4p fighter in boxing at the moment and before the 11th i like many scored the fight dead even if not slightly in favour for cotto.

Why on earth at this stage of his career would he jump back 3steps and fight someone we all know he`ll have no trouble beating when it is quite feasible to believe cotto would win any rematch with margarito.

I think paul williams may just have a say over whether miguel gets this rematch, but im quite sure if you asked cotto tonight what he wants next he`ll tell you vengeance and his titles back from marg!!

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Cintron has been blasted twice by Marg and the second earlier this year so what are you smoking? Clottey looks like the guy providing he gets by Zab. Please do not try selling me a ZAb vs Margarito fight. This cat Zab has how many lives?

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word up man im from nyc and Zab always seems to find his way to a championship card. Clottey should be a likely opponent for Margarito, simply cuz anyone who saw their first fight knows that clottey was givin margarito real problems until he broke his hand and couldnt throw the left hook anymore. plus clottey defensively reminds me of winky. it was like marg was punching a brick wall.

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I think Cotto's stock went up in that fight as it showed his chin, boxing ability, and stamina for a guy who everyone thinks of is a plodding one trick pony.


He fought his heart out and has nothing to be ashamed of there wasn't much more he could do

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Great post.

This fight was won by Margarito's mutant chin.;D

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Yeah Margarito beat Cotto by the hair on his chinny chin chin ........ busted up Cottos face with his chin, busted up them ribs with his chin, busted up that jaw with his chin, made Cottos face bleed and spit out blood with that chin, knocked him silly in the 11th with his chin and got Cotto to quit on his knees with that chin.

Yuo Margarito Chinished off Cottos @zz !!!

Both fighters did great.

I was just disgusted at the people denigrating Cotto afterward, he was great.

Margarito earned much respect.

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I think Cotto's stock went up in that fight as it showed his chin, boxing ability, and stamina for a guy who everyone thinks of is a plodding one trick pony.


He fought his heart out and has nothing to be ashamed of there wasn't much more he could do

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Great post.

This fight was won by Margarito's mutant chin.;D

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Yeah Margarito beat Cotto by the hair on his chinny chin chin ........ busted up Cottos face with his chin, busted up them ribs with his chin, busted up that jaw with his chin, made Cottos face bleed and spit out blood with that chin, knocked him silly in the 11th with his chin and got Cotto to quit on his knees with that chin.

Yuo Margarito Chinished off Cottos @zz !!!

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MArgarito did not move side to side he didn't felt the need to dodge any punches(causes fatigue more than throwing punches only) he did nothing just came forward throwing wide punches for every angle leaving himself open every single time where Cotto was countering all night with power shots. MArgarito did absolutly nothing just stood there and got hit everytime but I mean everytime. SO yes his chin did the job.

It happened to our guy Tito too..

And that was brutal in a different way, but brutal none the less..

there is a great guy who said
" What do great champions do?.. they come back"
-Bernard Hopkins .. The man who did it to our hero tito..

There is still much hope for miguel and plenty of fights left for him.

Margarito is a tank who does not seem to get discouraged. I thought Cotto was going to take this, but Margarito was even tougher than I thought if that is possible.

Cotto simply ran out of gas trying to beat that tank off of him. I hope he keeps his head together and comes back stronger. For the first 6 rounds Saturday night, Cotto showed he is by far one of the most talented fighters on the planet, but who was forced to fight a pace he could not maintain for the remainder.

I hope he does not rematch Margarito immediately. He needs to get his stamina in check before tackling Antonio again. He has the tools to beat him, they just need to be honed.

Good post Dean.

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Margarito is a tank who does not seem to get discouraged. I thought Cotto was going to take this, but Margarito was even tougher than I thought if that is possible.

Cotto simply ran out of gas trying to beat that tank off of him. I hope he keeps his head together and comes back stronger. For the first 6 rounds Saturday night, Cotto showed he is by far one of the most talented fighters on the planet, but who was forced to fight a pace he could not maintain for the remainder.

I hope he does not rematch Margarito immediately. He needs to get his stamina in check before tackling Antonio again. He has the tools to beat him, they just need to be honed.

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I hope he doesn't rematch Tony right away either, but the guy is a warrior and pride is what cost him this 1st fight, and pride might dictate if he jumps right back in with Tony.

I say pride cost him the fight because he let himself get caught on the ropes too many times, and I think his fighting spirit made him do that; and similar to Pavli/Taylor's 1st fight, ended up paying for that in the long run. Though I'm a long time Margarito fan, I definately see Cotto being able to regroup and win a rematch. He obviously has the higher end boxing skills to outpoint Tony, but he can't back straight up onto the ropes all night and end up getting bludgeoned in the end again. Remember, Tony probably learned alot from this fight, and will watch film closely to see where he might be able to improve in a rematch with Miguel, so Cotto will have to be on his A-game.

My biggest concern is the mental aspect of a rematch. Will he be able to get back in the ring with the one guy who gave him his 1st loss in brutal fashion? I think he can. I wondered the same with Jermaine Taylor after he got stopped by Kelly; but though he didn't win the rematch, he took it the distance and showed more ring smarts, instead of trying to club it out with Kelly.

I think people are not really seeing this fight as something special and how lucky we were to have the fight. Now we get to look forward to another one most likely. And if Cotto wins; can anyone say trilogy?

Here's my take: During the first six rounds even though Margarito kept dialing it in and landing more and more, I thought back to the Cotto that fought Torres and I was simply amazed at how improved Miguel is I honestly think he has grown as a boxer more than anyone I can think of in recent televised history. The performance he put forth was absolutely phenomenal, there really wasn't anything that you could say definitively to change that would have altered the outcome of the fight. Although I am not a fan of either of the combatants my respect levels went up for Cotto and Margarito big time. As a result of how they both performed I also gained more respect for the resolve of Paul Williams who hung in there against Margarito and put on a pretty good performance, the power of Daniel Santos who rocked Margarito early on in their fight. The amazing versatility of Shane Mosley who closed incredibly well against Cotto. And the speed of Zab Judah, I think with a different trainer and of course some better decisions in the shower Zab could have had much more success at 147.


Kudos to Margarito for showing iron will and embodying Mexican heart.
Kudos to Cotto for giving it everything he had and showing that even in defeat he is an elite fighter in one of the most competitive divisions in boxing.

I have very little negative to say here it was truly an amazing night of two fighters at the tops of their respective games.