Suppose someone asked Oscar straight out:
"Oscar... why won't you fight Margarito for your farewell/legacy fight?"
What do you think his answer would be?
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Suppose someone asked Oscar straight out:
"Oscar... why won't you fight Margarito for your farewell/legacy fight?"
What do you think his answer would be?
was up bro well he allready said its because he doesnt want to fight another mexican which really means i want i big payday with a lesser risk then margarito (manny pacquiao)Quote:
Originally Posted by TitoFan
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Yeah... I suppose that's as good an excuse as any. Kinda pathetic, but a good excuse.Quote:
Originally Posted by LacosteDonwas up bro well he allready said its because he doesnt want to fight another mexican which really means i want i big payday with a lesser risk then margarito (manny pacquiao)Quote:
Originally Posted by TitoFan
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it kinda makes sense though. Pac has been beating every mexican put in front of him and really oscar is the only mexican left. For oscars last fight he takes on the pacman and gets the chance to beat the guy who has been beating the other mexicans.
Can you imagine if pac drops and or beats oscar? that shiit would be huge!!! ;D
If oscar wins though it would make sense, he'll end the success pac has had over mexicans as his last goodbye fight. Oscar gotta stay off the canvas though cause there hasn't been a mexican pac didn't put on their ass. :D
You're right... that's a great angle. I'd be surprised if Oscar and his marketing machine didn't pick up on that and use it to hype the matchup.Quote:
Originally Posted by Julius Rain
And if by some miracle, Pac DID drop and/or beat De La Hoya... I'd be on a plane to the Phillipines the next day to help plan the homecoming parade.
:)
:lol: yea that would be awesome ;DQuote:
Originally Posted by TitoFanYou're right... that's a great angle. I'd be surprised if Oscar and his marketing machine didn't pick up on that and use it to hype the matchup.Quote:
Originally Posted by Julius Rain
And if by some miracle, Pac DID drop and/or beat De La Hoya... I'd be on a plane to the Phillipines the next day to help plan the homecoming parade.
:)
He is scaredy pants of Margarito
He wud not say it, he cum up with poop excuse
No offence but how can a man who has fought Trinidad, Mayweather, Hopkins, Mosley, Pernell, Chavez, Quartey, Mayorga, Vargas, Gatti, Camacho and Gonzalez be afraid of fighting Margarito? We have seen 6'1 Paul Williams beat Tony recently and Oscar is quite tall at 5'11 for that weight but IMO has better boxing skills than Williams. Also I've seen people questioning Oscars chin (or so it seems). How? He has walked through peoples shots who hit a lot harder than anyone who Tony has faced and also probably hits as hard as Cintron who is the hardest puncher that Tony has faced. The difference is he is a lot better boxer than Cintron and would cause Tony a lot of trouble and I think beat him.
I don't understand why people hate Oscar. He has fought the best fighters of his era and is looking now like he is going to take on the man who has been beating all his fellow Mexicans albeit in divisions quite a bit lower than the one he has been fighting. It looks like a mismatch but if you could take Oscar from 1995 when he himself was fighting at lightweight and put Pacman from now into that era we wouldn't be arguing this. The thing is he has grown into a junior middle and is going to drain himself (probably) to fight at Welter. The Mexican public turned on him a bit when he beat Chavez twice who is the biggest name in Mexican Boxing so he probably wants to win their hearts back and sees this as the best way of doing so. Certainly the last thing that would win the hearts of the Mexicans back would be to beat up their new hero and the man who has just beaten a fierce Puerto Rican Rival.
So the answer has to be the one he has already said, That he doesn't want to fight another Mexican.
"He doesn't have a big enough name."
That's my guess... Hoya wants to rake more money in his last fight and there are other boxers who can generate that more than a Margarito fight.
Im not saying Oscar De La Hoya doesn't deserve some bashing but come on the man is a legend look at his record and look at all of the opponents he beat........
He even went up to 160 to fight Bernard Hopkins thats 6 weight classes higher than the weight class he started at i think its very disrespectful to say Oscar De La Hoya is scared of Antonio Margarito because that sounds like your calling him a coward........
Oscar De La Hoya has fought good opposition since his 4th pro fight and about 85 percent of his opposition has been top quality i think people need to show some more respect to Oscar De La Hoya considering what he done for the sport and considering what he achieved......
Im not saying i agree with him fighting Manny Pacquiao but it makes good business sense Manny Pacquiao is the biggest name in boxing at the moment and sells out arena's where as Antonio Margarito isn't that well known to the casual boxing fans and hasn't got the star power Manny Pacquiao has and more importantly Antonio Margarito doesn't sell out arena's.......
The fact is whether you like it or not Antonio Margarito vs Oscar De La Hoya isn't as appealing as Manny Pacquiao vs Oscar De La Hoya tickets wise nor is it as appealing to the general public.......
I personally think Oscar De La Hoya should retire he has done enough in his career in my opinion but if he wants Manny Pacquiao to be his last fight i have no problem with it.
AGREED!!!!!!!!!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by ssss
His answer would be "If the money is right, I'll fight him" but what he means is "HELL NO! I'm trying to WIN my farewell fight!"
he's a fighter so i dont think he is scared as such..
But for one.. he isnt a hungry fighter.. hes just looking for a wrap up.. oscar cant even remember having to fight for chump change.. not that he ever did to be honest.. but the risk doesnt match the reward with margarito.
And i give pac more chance then most when it comes to beating oscar.. if he moves up in the right way..
go to 140 and test the waters.. i know he has filled 135 very well..
and i think he can be powerful at 140 too.. still 147 is a solid jump if were looking at a short amount of time.
i give pac more shot then forbes though to be honest.
I don't think people hate De La Hoya and his legacy. Everyone here respects him but he's bad for boxing right now. He should've retired already and given the best fighters a chance to fight other fighters not fight him instead.Quote:
Originally Posted by rjj tszyu
No one questions his past accomplishments, but they question what he is still doing here...
OK I understand where your coming from but why should he retire while he is still competitive?Quote:
Originally Posted by caleoh12I don't think people hate De La Hoya and his legacy. Everyone here respects him but he's bad for boxing right now. He should've retired already and given the best fighters a chance to fight other fighters not fight him instead.Quote:
Originally Posted by rjj tszyu
No one questions his past accomplishments, but they question what he is still doing here...
...because he's not trying to accomplish much in his "competition"
Sorry for such a late reply RJJ! I think he should retire because, like I said before, the best fighters should be fighting other great fighters. People steer away from their regular path just to fight De La Hoya.Quote:
Originally Posted by rjj tszyuOK I understand where your coming from but why should he retire while he is still competitive?Quote:
Originally Posted by caleoh12I don't think people hate De La Hoya and his legacy. Everyone here respects him but he's bad for boxing right now. He should've retired already and given the best fighters a chance to fight other fighters not fight him instead.Quote:
Originally Posted by rjj tszyu
No one questions his past accomplishments, but they question what he is still doing here...
For example, Floyd should've been fighting a real welterweight but instead chose to fight De La Hoya. Hatton then got the calls to fight De La Hoya. Good thing he turned it down cause now he's fighting one of the best in his division in Malignaggi. After beating De La Hoya and Hatton, Floyd DEFINITELY should've looked to fight a welterweight but instead signed on to fight De La Hoya again.
Now Pacquiao is the leading candidate to fight De La Hoya next. He should be fighting one of the big name lightweights, Valero, or Soto. Instead of concentrating on his REAL competition, he's now sidetracked in the thought of fighting Oscar.
De La Hoya is an all-time great no doubt! But as it stands, De La Hoya at this point in time does not make an impact the way he used to in the boxing world aside from making money..
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Originally Posted by caleoh12Sorry for such a late reply RJJ! I think he should retire because, like I said before, the best fighters should be fighting other great fighters. People steer away from their regular path just to fight De La Hoya.Quote:
Originally Posted by rjj tszyuOK I understand where your coming from but why should he retire while he is still competitive?Quote:
Originally Posted by caleoh12
For example, Floyd should've been fighting a real welterweight but instead chose to fight De La Hoya. Hatton then got the calls to fight De La Hoya. Good thing he turned it down cause now he's fighting one of the best in his division in Malignaggi. After beating De La Hoya and Hatton, Floyd DEFINITELY should've looked to fight a welterweight but instead signed on to fight De La Hoya again.
Now Pacquiao is the leading candidate to fight De La Hoya next. He should be fighting one of the big name lightweights, Valero, or Soto. Instead of concentrating on his REAL competition, he's now sidetracked in the thought of fighting Oscar.
De La Hoya is an all-time great no doubt! But as it stands, De La Hoya at this point in time does not make an impact the way he used to in the boxing world aside from making money..
AMEN... MONEY over BOXING INTEGRITY is now Oscars motto... I thought he wants to save boxing and bring back to where it belongs...
Oscar makes ridiculously huge amounts of dough - compared with any other fighter - REGARDLESS of who is in the opposite corner.
He clearly wants to end with a "superfight" that is WINNABLE - hence Pac.
The saddest thing is that Oscar gets hated on by mostly Mexicans, now I love MArgarito, but he has never done and probably will never do as much for Mexicans both inside or outside of the ring. As a fighter, business man, and philanthropist in general Oscar has represented Mexicans very well and he should get more respect than what most give him.
Be sure to PM me it it happens. I'll be waiting for you at the airport.;DQuote:
Originally Posted by TitoFanYou're right... that's a great angle. I'd be surprised if Oscar and his marketing machine didn't pick up on that and use it to hype the matchup.Quote:
Originally Posted by Julius Rain
And if by some miracle, Pac DID drop and/or beat De La Hoya... I'd be on a plane to the Phillipines the next day to help plan the homecoming parade.
:)
I think Oscar, if he is in the same shape he was against Flord or Mayorga could quite posibly box Margo to a UD.
Antonio struggles against guys his size or bigger ( Santos, Williams) so DLH at a similiar size would have that going for him. Margo also oreys on fighters that are weak minded (Cintron) and ODLH has been in enough big fights that there is no problem with that.
I say again if Oscar is in the same shape that he was v Mayorga he could beat Margarito.
"He's Mexican, and I don't want to fight another Mexican."
I am still entertained by watching Oscar, I think he really does want to make exciting fights,
I think it upset Oscar the way the Mexican fans turned against him after he beat JJC so he wont want to risk it again.
He wants to go out a hero to his people.