If you were the ring doctor of Clottey-Judah, would you stop the fight?

If you were the ring doctor of Clottey-Judah, would you stop the fight due to the cut on Judah?

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I've seen worse. I think you give the fighter the benefit of the doubt, especially late in a fight when the fighter has been busting his ass in the fight. I'm no Judah fan, but I think the doctor should've asked him if he could see clearly. The ref continues to monitor it closely, and if need be, the fight can be stopped shortly thereafter.

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Originally Posted by TitoFan

I've seen worse. I think you give the fighter the benefit of the doubt, especially late in a fight when the fighter has been busting his ass in the fight. I'm no Judah fan, but I think the doctor should've asked him if he could see clearly. The ref continues to monitor it closely, and if need be, the fight can be stopped shortly thereafter.

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That's what the doctor did, asked Judah if he can still see clearly then Judah said he can't (or was it the perception of the doctor only since Team Judah claimed after the fight that he's willing to continue).

I think what you really wanted more is to let the fight continue after that initial check-up of the cut. Asking the fighter will either stop or continue the fight depending on the reply of the fighter.

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Originally Posted by SaddoBoxer

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Originally Posted by TitoFan

I've seen worse. I think you give the fighter the benefit of the doubt, especially late in a fight when the fighter has been busting his ass in the fight. I'm no Judah fan, but I think the doctor should've asked him if he could see clearly. The ref continues to monitor it closely, and if need be, the fight can be stopped shortly thereafter.

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That's what the doctor did, asked Judah if he can still see clearly then Judah said he can't (or was it the perception of the doctor only since Team Judah claimed after the fight that he's willing to continue).

I think what you really wanted is to let the fight continue after that initial check-up of the cut.

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Well... if the fighter is not adamant and clear that he can and wants to continue, the ref should stop the fight. Too many fighters are vague about that, only to vehemently protest once the ref has stopped the fight. Comes off kinda chickenshit if you ask me.

For me that was a terrible cut. It was in a poor position and would have only gotten worse had the fight been allowed to continue. I honestly didn't see that fight going any other way but Clottey's so it was best to let Zab live to fight another day.

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Originally Posted by TitoFan

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Originally Posted by SaddoBoxer

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Originally Posted by TitoFan

I've seen worse. I think you give the fighter the benefit of the doubt, especially late in a fight when the fighter has been busting his ass in the fight. I'm no Judah fan, but I think the doctor should've asked him if he could see clearly. The ref continues to monitor it closely, and if need be, the fight can be stopped shortly thereafter.

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That's what the doctor did, asked Judah if he can still see clearly then Judah said he can't (or was it the perception of the doctor only since Team Judah claimed after the fight that he's willing to continue).

I think what you really wanted is to let the fight continue after that initial check-up of the cut.

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Well... if the fighter is not adamant and clear that he can and wants to continue, the ref should stop the fight. Too many fighters are vague about that, only to vehemently protest once the ref has stopped the fight. Comes off kinda chickenshit if you ask me.

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:) I also think that Judah wanted to have the fight stopped at that point.

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Originally Posted by bzkfn

For me that was a terrible cut. It was in a poor position and would have only gotten worse had the fight been allowed to continue. I honestly didn't see that fight going any other way but Clottey's so it was best to let Zab live to fight another day.

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Same here...

It doesn't appear to be bad but if he said he couldn't see then i would have to stop it.

If a fighter says they "cant see" like Judah did, then the doctor really has no discretion. Although, other fighters would say they could see no matter what: fighters who do yet know how to lose.

Judah got what and where he wanted..........out.He told The doctor that he could not see,there was no other option but to stop the fight then and there.I think Clottey was on his way to TKO'ing Judah.

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Originally Posted by Pugilistic

It doesn't appear to be bad but if he said he couldn't see then i would have to stop it.

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The cut from another angle...

http://img135.imageshack.us/img135/4...482x316zp0.jpg

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Originally Posted by SaddoBoxer

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Originally Posted by Pugilistic

It doesn't appear to be bad but if he said he couldn't see then i would have to stop it.

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The cut from another angle...

http://img135.imageshack.us/img135/4...482x316zp0.jpg

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OK... it looks like a red eye brow. I guess it should've been stopped regardless.

I voted for stopping it right away - that cut's in a bad spot. A few more punches on that one and Judah might have been retired whether he wanted to or not. No reason to risk it.

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i seriously think judah tried to get the fight stopped thinking he was ahead on the cards



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I thought he looked a little disappointed when they called a stop, :-\

I have no doubt in my mind that he wanted the fight stopped. The doc stated that he thought Zab could continue, but Zab himself claimed he couldn't see. Obviously the doc HAS to call the fight off if a fighter is impaired like that. So any disappointment from Zab at that point was just an act.

I knew judah wanted the fight stopped when the doctor asked him how many fingers do you see. He looked in a hurry to quit.

Yep, that cut was enough to stop the fight right there. Also, I agree with most posters that judah not even knowing how bad the cut was...tried to pull a fast one on the doc with the finger count hoping to win on the cards. That was the quickest answer I have ever seen, that was incorrect. If a person wants to continue, and is confused regarding how many fingers they see...they'll pause and try to atleast figure it out. Long enough for the doc to go...sorry Charlie, you're out.

Either way the fight would, and should have been stopped. Bit of shame IMO on Judah with the performance tho.

In spite of my open dislike for Judah, he showed some great skill in that fight in those early rounds, for he is a talented fighter. This can't be questioned. I just don't like the guys attitude and have little respect for his heart and theatrics.

i think im right in saying the doctor cant stop the fight , he can only direct the referee , who has sole power to stop it ???
but Zab was going to get beaten anyway.

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Originally Posted by Dark Lord Al

i think im right in saying the doctor cant stop the fight , he can only direct the referee , who has sole power to stop it ???
but Zab was going to get beaten anyway.

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Hmmnn doctor >> referee but it seems that it's clottey >> judah >> doctor >> referee ... ;D

If Zab could see I let continue and see how it goes, not worse cut ever.

John Duddy finished his fight v Schmit and cut worse there

Knew the fight was slipping so tried his hands with the judges, a good decision

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Originally Posted by SaddoBoxer

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Originally Posted by Pugilistic

It doesn't appear to be bad but if he said he couldn't see then i would have to stop it.

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The cut from another angle...

http://img135.imageshack.us/img135/4...482x316zp0.jpg

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As a side note- Zab's nose is HUGE!