Wal-Mart $19.99 boxing gloves?

They have some vinyl boxing gloves at Wal-Mart for $19.99 so I got some. I was hoping they would work for sparring with my nephews.

They are 14 oz gloves and they looked like the kind you could box with (to my untrained eye). However, once I got them out and put them on, I was dissapointed.

They have no laces or velcro, just elastic. You just pull them on tight. I got the biggest size they had, the adult size or whatever, but the elastic on the wrist / forearm area is so tight on my forearms it hurts. I kinda have big forearms, I'm proud of them lol, but they make these gloves fit tightly to where it's uncomfortable.

Also the ends where my finger tips go have a seam that rubs my fingertips and hurts.

So, is it just me or are these gloves junky? Are they good enough to spar with?

I was looking at other cheap options since I don't have a lot of money, and I found these

http://store.titleboxing.com/hookclastrai.html

These look better to me than the wal-mart ones, are these OK for sparring? At least they are leather and are adjustable for tightness.

If these are still not good enough, what are the most affordable gloves that are any good?

At least I can use the wal-mart gloves for a Halloween costume or something lol... Strong Bad or something... now I just need a Mexican wrestling mask...

well i use the more expensive gloves but i can still tell which gloves for a lower price are actually going to work.

I would go with these from titleboxing

http://store.titleboxing.com/title-p...ht-gloves.html

now considering you might want to have the same pair to fight and spare with these would be good if you buy the 10 oz. if you have headgear and foul protector there wont be any problem with fighting with these, but make sure you know what your doing before going at full contact.

What makes one pair of gloves better than another?

Sorry if these are noob questions but I haven't seen any guides to buying gloves.

Also I don't think I understand the different glove weights. Are heavier gloves more padded, thus safer for beginners?

Yeah the heavier gloves are padded more and are designed for sparring and to prevent serious injury. Its probably best to get 14oz gloves if your a beginner.

I think the pros use 8oz gloves upto a certain weight (Welterweight I think ???) and then the heavier weights use 10oz gloves. Not positive though. I'm sure someone else can confirm this.

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Originally Posted by Hellbore

What makes one pair of gloves better than another?

Sorry if these are noob questions but I haven't seen any guides to buying gloves.

Also I don't think I understand the different glove weights. Are heavier gloves more padded, thus safer for beginners?

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well if you are just beginning then I wouldnt recommend you spar, especially against another beginner(sounds odd, but you need to be taught what to do and if your sparring with someone else who isnt that smart then your just wasting time). If you spar with someone good have them take it easy on you.

Craig was right on whatsize fighters use what size gloves although in can be stipulated in a contract for someone under welter to use 10 oz and someone over welter to use 8 oz.

the more padding is better for sparring, but if you buy certain gloves with more padding it doesnt mean they will work as good as others. Look at the shape of the glove and what the padding is made of. thats how you can tell if its a good glove. I wouldnt use the ones you asked about. The gloves i shown are also available in sparring sizes, but I thought since you were on a budget you could use them to fight too. also just because a glove has more padding doesnt mean that it is more protective. the glove needs to fit you hand like a glove.these also are good: http://www.ringside.com/store/produc...2&pagenumber=3

just look around and pick the ones you want, but consider what i said above about the shape and padding.

my brother got some rele gd quality lonsdale yellow gloves for £6 so thts bout $10

How about these, if I decide to spend more are these OK for training and sparring?

http://store.titleboxing.com/titlebo...ig-gloves.html

yes i have experience with everlast. those look to be good.

keep one thing in mind .............. everlast choice of champions u cnt go wrong with them mate

OK well I went ahead and ordered them :)

Might as well spend some money to have something nicer... I don't want to wear gloves that feel like I'm wearing pillows on my hands. Hopefully these will fit nicer to my hand.

The $19.99 Wal-mart ones didn't fit well, there was a seam rubbing on my fingertips that was annoying, the lining kept bunching up, and my hands sweat a TON in them. Also since they were elastic with no means of tightening them in certain areas, the very back of the glove was too tight on my forearm muscles while the wrist area was loose. They would shift around on my hand too. They also just kinda looked like cartoon gloves :)

Now, should I hit the heavy bag with these on or only use them for sparring or focus pads? I have some bag gloves already but they are very light, is it better if I hit the bag with these gloves for a better workout, since they weigh more?

Also will it ruin them hitting the bag with them, wear them out fast or something? They are leather and my heavy bag is vinyl.

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Originally Posted by hitmanhatton

keep one thing in mind .............. everlast choice of champions u cnt go wrong with them mate

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But there might be an exception to that... The $19.99 elastic-only, non-adjustable cartoony Wal-Mart gloves were also Everlast ;D

My friend was arguing with me earlier, he said hey, they can't be too bad, even if they were only $20, they are EVERLAST! That is a good brand, they must be good. I dunno, they seem crappy to me... Plus I noticed NO boxing store sells them, only Wal-Mart...

lol i got some leather everlast focus pads from woolworths and they are solid rele gd

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keep one thing in mind .............. everlast choice of champions u cnt go wrong with them mate

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But there might be an exception to that... The $19.99 elastic-only, non-adjustable cartoony Wal-Mart gloves were also Everlast ;DÂ

My friend was arguing with me earlier, he said hey, they can't be too bad, even if they were only $20, they are EVERLAST! That is a good brand, they must be good. I dunno, they seem crappy to me... Plus I noticed NO boxing store sells them, only Wal-Mart...

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you got my point I was going to make.

they sell these things at walmart because people see the name and think they must be good because there everlast. also dont blame everlast for taking advantage, i didnt make the point because I thought you might be too poor to afford anything else.

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i didnt make the point because I thought you might be too poor to afford anything else.

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Well let's just say the $69 gloves just mean more credit card debt for me LOL... I'm sure a lot of us aren't exactly rich here but I can afford this if I really want it, I'll just have to be frugal in some other areas to make up for it.

I was lucky, I called titleboxing (where I ordered those other $39 gloves) and was able to cancel that order and change it so I got the $69 Everlast gloves instead. I'm glad I did, I like the shape of the Everlast gloves better. I'm afraid I would have gotten the Title ones and not been satisfied with them either, just like I wasn't satisfied with the $19 ones. Oh well, sometimes it's true that if you buy cheap, you buy twice...

By the way, I saw some Grant gloves I totally fell in love with but they were like $114, there's no way I can afford that

http://www.grantboxing.com/pages/pro...ninggloves.php

I love glove's cut and the brown color LOL... However, I have to be careful that I don't get obsessed more with the EQUIPMENT than with the actual SPORT... I'm just a friggin beginner after all but I have done that before, gotten more enjoyment from buying nice equipment than from the actual sport LOL... I'm that way with my tools and with my paintball equipment, computer equipment, electronics stuff, etc... The stuff is just as fun as the actual hobby for me hehe

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i didnt make the point because I thought you might be too poor to afford anything else.

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Well let's just say the $69 gloves just mean more credit card debt for me LOL... I'm sure a lot of us aren't exactly rich here but I can afford this if I really want it, I'll just have to be frugal in some other areas to make up for it.

I was lucky, I called titleboxing (where I ordered those other $39 gloves) and was able to cancel that order and change it so I got the $69 Everlast gloves instead. I'm glad I did, I like the shape of the Everlast gloves better. I'm afraid I would have gotten the Title ones and not been satisfied with them either, just like I wasn't satisfied with the $19 ones. Oh well, sometimes it's true that if you buy cheap, you buy twice...Â

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I wasnt making fun of you for being poor or anything, I mean I completely understand things like that, I also understand some people are sensetive about it and thats why I didnt type it until I did.

what all do you plan on using the gloves for? what i mean is sparring, bag work, etc.?

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Originally Posted by Magnum

what all do you plan on using the gloves for? what i mean is sparring, bag work, etc.?

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I don't really know, because I don't know what I'm doing, I'd kind of like to spar and do bag work with them if that's not a problem. The main reason I wanted them though was to spar. I think I know someone who is into boxing who will spar with me.

I just don't know if it's better to do bag work with thicker gloves or thinner ones, heavier ones or lighter ones, etc. I kinda like the idea of using thinner gloves to toughen my hands more but heavier gloves work your arms more right?

By the way if you are wondering what gloves I bought the first time these are the ones:

http://www.walmart.com/catalog/produ...32573917502498

See the bunched up vinyl at the fingertip? That stuff gives my fingertips blisters LOL... The Everlast ones I just ordered look like they have less bunch up at that part of the glove. I bet they have better padding inside too so I don't have to feel it so much. Also Vinyl feels icky to me, it never really breaks in to form to your hand better does it?

Funny story... Today I had the vinyl gloves in my car and I gave my co-worker a ride to get lunch at Jack In The Box. He had no money and asked me to buy him a burger. I said OK I will buy you lunch, but you have to wear the boxing gloves into the restaurant and eat with them on! He did... It was awesome, we got so many stares... He had a really hard time getting out his wallet and paying and stuff but he got it ready beforehand so he could reach it... Pretty funny stuff...

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what all do you plan on using the gloves for? what i mean is sparring, bag work, etc.?

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I don't really know, because I don't know what I'm doing, I'd kind of like to spar and do bag work with them if that's not a problem. The main reason I wanted them though was to spar. I think I know someone who is into boxing who will spar with me.

I just don't know if it's better to do bag work with thicker gloves or thinner ones, heavier ones or lighter ones, etc. I kinda like the idea of using thinner gloves to toughen my hands more but heavier gloves work your arms more right?

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all of that is preference. and also you will have to consider things you will go through(like how your wrists will probably hurt and other things may hurt).

It depends on what kind of bag work you are doing (heavy, speed, double-end, etc.)

I mean it depends really on you. you said you dont know what your doing so you probably dont have the punches down pat? just walk through everything real slow and focus on everything that each part of your body is oing. I say to practice the punches because if your just an average person with no experience and start hitting a heavy bag, you'll probably hurt your hands. If this is the case then the bigger gloves would be better for you.

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By the way if you are wondering what gloves I bought the first time these are the ones:

http://www.walmart.com/catalog/produ...32573917502498

See the bunched up vinyl at the fingertip? That stuff gives my fingertips blisters LOL... The Everlast ones I just ordered look like they have less bunch up at that part of the glove. I bet they have better padding inside too so I don't have to feel it so much. Also Vinyl feels icky to me, it never really breaks in to form to your hand better does it?

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your right on what you said about the vinyl. I have never used vinyl gloves but I could definitly see that. Those gloves look more like novelty gloves to me, but like I said evarlier some would buy them to box with(not making fun of anyone, its just the truth). yeah the shape is real important and also the padding.

what was on the inside of the glove?

Well these are the type of bag gloves I have been using so far

http://store.titleboxing.com/exwrisprobag.html

Actually the ones I have were my Dad's, they have about half as thick padding as the ones in that picture, but those are the closest I could find.

My heavy bag is an Everlast Nevatear 70 pound bag and it's black vinyl. It's not as big as I expected, I have seen other 70 pound bags that are bigger. It's really dense and hard.

When I first started my wrists would hurt a lot but after a week of hitting it every day, now I can almost hit as hard as I can... BUT there's one problem area, I hurt my left wrist every time I try to do a left hook. I can do a right hook fine and hit hard, but a LEFT hook feels so awkward and I bend my wrist and hurt it. Left jabs are no problem though so far. In fact, I can hit as hard as I want at shoulder level, it's the body shots I am having a hard time doing without hurting my wrists.

Another thing I am wondering about... My hands themselves don't hurt just my wrists, though my nephew who has been hitting the bag with me is getting some weird sores on his hands. He is getting cracks on the skin between his pinky and ring finger and after 4 rounds or so they start to bleed. Any ideas why this is happening? Will his skin toughen up, and what should he put on the cracked skin to help it heal?

Also the bag gloves gave him a blister on the top of his index finger, on both hands. Maybe he is doing something strange with his fist or his punching. Is there any guide to making a proper fist or punching form that we could go over to make sure he's not doing something wrong that would hurt his hands?

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Originally Posted by Magnum

what was on the inside of the glove?

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I don't know, it feels like some kind of polyester fabric or something but I don't think there's any padding at the fingertips so those wrinkles rub right on the tips of your fingers.

BTW it says on Wal-Mart's site, about those $19 gloves: "Top-quality gloves from the biggest name in boxing."

Wow... Top quality? For only $19? WOW! ehhe

I've got black lonsdales for $15

Hey I did find a picture of the exact bag gloves I have! These are them, the exact ones:

http://www.onlinesports.com/images/mw-ev4308.gif

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I've got black lonsdales for $15

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Are Lonsdales good? I don't know if they sell them here... ??? Anyway I don't know much about brands. Did you buy them online? Maybe I could get some and try them out.

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Well these are the type of bag gloves I have been using so far

http://store.titleboxing.com/exwrisprobag.html

My heavy bag is an Everlast Nevatear 70 pound bag and it's black vinyl. It's not as big as I expected, I have seen other 70 pound bags that are bigger. It's really dense and hard.

When I first started my wrists would hurt a lot but after a week of hitting it every day, now I can almost hit as hard as I can... BUT there's one problem area, I hurt my left wrist every time I try to do a left hook. I can do a right hook fine and hit hard, but a LEFT hook feels so awkward and I bend my wrist and hurt it. Left jabs are no problem though so far. In fact, I can hit as hard as I want at shoulder level, it's the body shots I am having a hard time doing without hurting my wrists.Â

Another thing I am wondering about... My hands themselves don't hurt just my wrists, though my nephew who has been hitting the bag with me is getting some weird sores on his hands. He is getting cracks on the skin between his pinky and ring finger and after 4 rounds or so they start to bleed. Any ideas why this is happening? Will his skin toughen up, and what should he put on the cracked skin to help it heal?

Also the bag gloves gave him a blister on the top of his index finger, on both hands.  Maybe he is doing something strange with his fist or his punching. Is there any guide to making a proper fist or punching form that we could go over to make sure he's not doing something wrong that would hurt his hands?

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I have the same heavy bag. my dad bought it for me for Christmas. Does yours have a stand with a speed bag platform on the other side? well he bought it so he could take down my old speed bag platform( a real good one) because it was nailed to 2 two by fours on a wall for part of the basement we had finished. the posts that were in the basemnt are still the and the 2x4's were on it. I broke both of the 2x4 from an exercise called killing the bag. well anyways my point was my dad bought this and didnt realize that it wasnt nearly as good as what i had. that heavybag i dont like because it is really hard in some places. I prefer water-based bags. but all you have to do is open it up and loosen up all of the stuff in there so it isnt bunched together. the reason it is softer at the top is because you hit it more there (probably) and it loosens the stuff and the stuff falls down. hitting it for a while will also loosen it up, but just open it up.

what type of hook do you throw? there are 2 ways to throw it, is your fist vertical or horizontal when it lands? also If I was you I wouldnt throw it at full force until you get you wrist right or it will coninue to hurt. the way most people's minds work they think it will toughen up after you do it long enough, well that may be true, but it will also toughen up by doing it correctly and you wont have pain.

I wouldnt know anything about the sore. I guys it might be a reaction to the vinyl. (sinces its so slick and it seems it could cause your hand to cut) just run your hands along the outside, like you said it doesnt feel good.


btw that isnt what i meant by hurting your hands (i was referring to bone and cartilage) but my guess would be if the inside is made of vinyl then thats is definitly it.

explain to me how you make a fist and how his knuckles are shaped and i'll tell you if you are making a fist wrong.

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Originally Posted by Sugar_Shaw

I've got black lonsdales for $15

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Are Lonsdales good? I don't know if they sell them here... ??? Anyway I don't know much about brands. Did you buy them online? Maybe I could get some and try them out.

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the top brands are winning, grant, reyes and everlast depending on your preference. so are better in certain areas than others are.

I'll try that to loosen up the bag. I bought the bag separately, no stand, but it definitely sounds like the same one you have.

When I throw hooks to the body my fist is vertical, like as if I was holding a pole that was straight up and down. I feel like I'm hitting the bag pretty hard and Owww, that bag is so firm down there LOL... It feels OK with my right hand, I feel like I could HURT someone hehe, but with my left hand it's so awkward and I can hardly do it without hurting my wrist. Anyway is that the right way to do a hook to the body? I'm doing it about at the level of the bottom of my ribs, slightly higher than the belly button. I feel like when I do it with my right hand I can get my shoulder and hips into it and drive it in there hard, but with my left hand I feel like it's just a total mess..

I will have to take a look (or maybe a picture?) and see how my nephew is making a fist. I'll also try to find out more exactly how he is hitting. I notice he is hitting the bag kinda weird sometimes, it looks like he's making contact with the outer part of his fist first, like hitting the bag ring-finger knuckle first. I was taught differently... I dunno, I didn't realize making a fist or punching was so complicated LOL... Actually my dad taught me a little bit when I was younger, my dad used to be a lightweight boxer when he was in the army reserves. He actually was pretty good from what I hear tell, I wish I could get the guy to give me some help but he's really anti-boxing now. One of his friends died in the ring and he won't talk about boxing any more. In fact he's going to be extremely p***ed if he finds out I want to spar.

Oh yeah by the way, let me explain how I am making a fist and you can tell me if this is OK.

I clench all my fingers as if I was squeezing a little rod in my hand, I clench them tight so there's no space there and the knuckls line up straight for the most part, then I put my thumb over the fingers, the thumb pointing towards my pinkie. My thumb ends up perpendicular to my fingers. I don't know how to describe it better. maybe I should take a picture.

One thing I noticed is sometimes after hitting the heavy bag, the lowest joint at the base of my thumb gets sore. It seems to happen when I squeeze too hard with my thumb and it pushes my thumb too far down towards my wrist, to where my thumb is then the thumb joint hurts. It doesn't seem to happen when I wear heavier gloves. Also if I make my thumb slightly less than perpendicular to the fingers, so it is angled slightly towards the front of my fist, the pain goes away but it feels awkward since I'm in the habit of squeezing it to perpedicular position.

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I'll try that to loosen up the bag. I bought the bag separately, no stand, but it definitely sounds like the same one you have.

When I throw hooks to the body my fist is vertical, like as if I was holding a pole that was straight up and down. I feel like I'm hitting the bag pretty hard and Owww, that bag is so firm down there LOL...  It feels OK with my right hand, I feel like I could HURT someone hehe, but with my left hand it's so awkward and I can hardly do it without hurting my wrist. Anyway is that the right way to do a hook to the body? I'm doing it about at the level of the bottom of my ribs, slightly higher than the belly button.

I will have to take a look (or maybe a picture?) and see how my nephew is making a fist. I'll also try to find out more exactly how he is hitting. I notice he is hitting the bag kinda weird sometimes, it looks like he's making contact with the outer part of his fist first, like hitting the bag ring-finger knuckle first. I was taught differently... I dunno, I didn't realize making a fist or punching was so complicated LOL... Actually my dad taught me a little bit when I was younger, my dad used to be a lightweight boxer when he was in the army reserves. He actually was pretty good from what I hear tell, I wish I could get the guy to give me some help but he's really anti-boxing now. One of his friends died in the ring and he won't talk about boxing any more. In fact he's going to be extremely pissed if he finds out I want to spar.

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I believe it is also. they said they got it at SAMS club and the bag gloves dont have the logo on the fingertipes, but beside that there the same.

yes that is the right way to throw hooks to the body. i think that you are just not use to throwing left hooks yet (probably the hardest punch to master). i was just saying because in close you can throw a horizontal hook to the head if you feel more comfortable with it.

btw dont throw right hooks unless you are in close. it rarely lands and is so easy for someone to counter you with a big shot.

my advice would to walk through everything slow and then focus to make sure you have everything right.

the height at which you throw the kook to the body depends on your opponent and his build height, etc.
but a left hook to the liver (on the right side, the organ is exposed a little right under the ribs)

do make sure that you know that leverage is the key to punching power

you wont to try and land with the whole fist

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Oh yeah by the way, let me explain how I am making a fist and you can tell me if this is OK.

I clench all my fingers as if I was squeezing a little rod in my hand, I clench them tight so there's no space there and the knuckls line up straight for the most part, then I put my thumb over the fingers, the thumb pointing towards my pinkie. My thumb ends up perpendicular to my fingers.  I don't know how to describe it better. maybe I should take a picture.

One thing I noticed is sometimes after hitting the heavy bag, the lowest joint at the base of my thumb gets sore. It seems to happen when I squeeze too hard with my thumb and it pushes my thumb too far down towards my wrist, to where my thumb is then the thumb joint hurts. It doesn't seem to happen when I wear heavier gloves. Also if I make my thumb slightly less than perpendicular to the fingers, so it is angled slightly towards the front of my fist, the pain goes away but it feels awkward since I'm in the habit of squeezing it to perpedicular position.

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thats sounds right.

take a picture. the thumb may not be right due to the second part.

are you punching the bag without gloves?

in a glove you thumb will be seperated (i am sure you know)

thanks for the advice, you're so helpful ;D

What other types of body shots are good? I don't really know how to do straight shots to the body, I only can think of hooks... When I try to hit the bag with a straight punch lower on the bag, it feels very awkward, especially since the bag is hard as a rock down there. I can manage to hit it with a right hook but you said that's not a very safe punch right?


As for the fist thing... When I first got the bag Sunday a week and a day ago, I hit it without gloves for a few minutes :( I learned a painful lesson... I tore off a piece of skin from my middle finger knuckle, a round piece of skin about 1/2" around, I hit the bag with a right hook on the firm bottom of the bag and the skin grabbed onto the vinyl and tore right off, I was bleeding :o

It is healing slowly due to me hitting the bag every day. I know it was a stupid thing to do... I didn't think you needed bag gloves...

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thanks for the advice, you're so helpful ;D

What other types of body shots are good? I don't really know how to do straight shots to the body, I only can think of hooks... When I try to hit the bag with a straight punch lower on the bag, it feels very awkward, especially since the bag is hard as a rock down there. I can manage to hit it with a right hook but you said that's not a very safe punch right?


As for the fist thing... When I first got the bag Sunday a week and a day ago, I hit it without gloves for a few minutes :( I learned a painful lesson... I tore off a piece of skin from my middle finger knuckle, a round piece of skin about 1/2" around, I hit the bag with a right hook on the firm bottom of the bag and the skin grabbed onto the vinyl and tore right off, I was bleeding :o

It is healing slowly due to me hitting the bag every day.

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well there are 4 types of punches (mainly, but several different versions of each)
jab, cross, hook, uppercut

straight shots are very effective to the body
jab to hold them still (or to keep them at distance, break rythum, etc), crosses are used to hurt them. body shots will be very effective if you are sparring a novice because they will only block their face and their arms arent use to the motion of coming down and blocking so they will be easy to hit there

in close (or while moving in) hooks are great to the body

the straight shots may feel akward to the body because you arent getting enough distance

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the straight shots may feel akward to the body because you arent getting enough distance

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Yeah and it feels like I have no leverage. What should I do with my hips, shoulders, and other hand when I throw a straight shot to the body?

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the straight shots may feel akward to the body because you arent getting enough distance

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Yeah and it feels like I have no leverage. What should I do with my hips, shoulders, and other hand when I throw a straight shot to the body?

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this is really hard to explain without showing you in person or without you watching the pros do it.
but just some things i can think of that most people make mistakes on

first it depends on the angle(that you and your opponent are set up at)
but always get the proper distance and make sure that you are low enough so your punching at a good angle with your arm
also jabs and crosses go to the middle part of the stomach (or close to it) if you are at a angle where you land to the ribs and arent set up correctly you can hurt you wrists (kind of like on the heavybag)

not to sound cocky or anything but it is hard for me to explain because it comes natural to me and i dont have to think about some of these things you have asked.

Hmm... You mention that you need to be low enough to hit a straight shot to the body, right?

Well this is not something I have been doing, I have been standing up straight when I try to punch straight to the body. Maybe this is why it feels crazy? Do I need to kinda hunker down lower first before I throw one of those punches?

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Hmm... You mention that you need to be low enough to hit a straight shot to the body, right?

Well this is not something I have been doing, I have been standing up straight when I try to punch straight to the body. Maybe this is why it feels crazy? Do I need to kinda hunker down lower first before I throw one of those punches?

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how many professional fights have you watched?

and be honest I am not here to make fun of you

you defintly cant throw a punch to the body standing as high up as you do to the head

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how many professional fights have you watched?

and be honest I am not here to make fun of you

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Only a handful. They aren't on TV very much but now they have Friday Night Fights... I watched some old fight between Cassius Clay and some other guy last Friday.

Right after that I watched I think 3 men and women's fights but I don't remember how they did their body punches. I guess I need to pay more attention... I mostly remember what they did when going for the head shots. Maybe it's harder to see what they are doing when they do body hits?

The last fight I saw was between 2 guys, one was Oliverio I think and the other was Agustus or something like that... Oliverio got hit in the head a lot and was showing signs of brain damage I think at the end of the fight... did anyone else see that one?

Anyway can I buy tapes to watch somewhere?

Also what's a good way to get used to keeping the proper distance when punching so that you hit your opponent effectively? I notice my nephew when he hits the heavy bag, he keeps moving in close when he throws a punch so his arms never extend when he punches. I think he's losing a lot of power this way, his punches sound so weak on the bag, almost like he's pushing it instead of hitting it. I'm sure I do it too sometimes.

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how many professional fights have you watched?

and be honest I am not here to make fun of you

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Only a handful. They aren't on TV very much but now they have Friday Night Fights... I watched some old fight between Cassius Clay and some other guy last Friday.

Right after that I watched I think 3 men and women's fights but I don't remember how they did their body punches. I guess I need to pay more attention... I mostly remember what they did when going for the head shots. Maybe it's harder to see what they are doing when they do body hits?

The last fight I saw was between 2 guys, one was Oliverio I think and the other was Agustus or something like that... Oliverio got hit in the head a lot and was showing signs of brain damage I think at the end of the fight... did anyone else see that one?

Anyway can I buy tapes to watch somewhere?

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well not to be sexest but dont watch women for help. the top female boxers are on a lower level in talent and skill. and ali didnt punch that much to the body. Ive watched this for years and you learned how to break it down and what to look for.

I will be sending you a video of Floyd Mayweather in a Private message so check them (ask if you need help) and dont want to be rude, but will you computer play it? I have a cable connection and it still takes a while download it.

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Originally Posted by Magnum

how many professional fights have you watched?

and be honest I am not here to make fun of you

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Only a handful. They aren't on TV very much but now they have Friday Night Fights... I watched some old fight between Cassius Clay and some other guy last Friday.

Right after that I watched I think 3 men and women's fights but I don't remember how they did their body punches. I guess I need to pay more attention... I mostly remember what they did when going for the head shots. Maybe it's harder to see what they are doing when they do body hits?

The last fight I saw was between 2 guys, one was Oliverio I think and the other was Agustus or something like that... Oliverio got hit in the head a lot and was showing signs of brain damage I think at the end of the fight... did anyone else see that one?

Anyway can I buy tapes to watch somewhere?

Also what's a good way to get used to keeping the proper distance when punching so that you hit your opponent effectively? I notice my nephew when he hits the heavy bag, he keeps moving in close when he throws a punch so his arms never extend when he punches. I think he's losing a lot of power this way, his punches sound so weak on the bag, almost like he's pushing it instead of hitting it. I'm sure I do it too sometimes.

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just seen the rest of your post since the edit.

Olivera and Agustus. I fell asleep but I have seen both of them fight several times. Olivera turned out to have a pinched nerve and will be ok if you wanted to know.

just practice getting full extension on your punches. thats the best way. you said you were doing four rounds on the bag and you just started. always learn something before you go into on that level. going at full speed and doing four rounds on a bag without really knowing what to do is a good way to form bad habits.