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Joshua Clottey Wants Margarito Rematch Asap
August 04, 2008
JOSHUA CLOTTEY WANTS MARGARITO REMATCH ASAP
By G. Leon
GL: Congrats on your victory, can you give us some thoughts on your performance? "I think I was trying to wear him down. We were thinking that he's going to get tired in five rounds. But I did what I had to do to win the fight."
GL: Was there anything about Zab Judah that surprised you?
JC: "He fought well and fought like the old Zab Judah. When I was expecting him to get tired he was still going and trying his best and that surprised."
GL: Did you think you were going to knock him out had the fight continued?
JC: "I know he wasn't going to make twelve rounds. My trainer told me to step up, from round nine to twelve I was going to go all out and I was going to knock him out. I was fighting at a regular pace."
GL: When the fight was first waved off you reacted as though you won by knockout. What was going through you head when you figured out they were going to the cards?
JC: "I was thinking, what's going on? I didn't hit him with my head. He was using my head more than I was. When they did that, I was like wow, how can this happen. I know he was throwing his jab and I knew it was a good fight, so I was a little worried. I didn't want to leave it to the judges."
GL: What does becoming champion mean to you?
JC: "It means a lot because I've been struggling my whole life to become champion. Now people will know I am champion and I'm going to look to make fights with everybody who don't want to fight me.
GL: Who do you want to fight the most?
JC: "Margarito. We have to fight again to prove that my hand caused me to lose that fight. I really want to fight with Margarito."
GL: If not Margarito, who else?
JC: "Andre Berto, he's a DiBella boxer and I would love to unify the belts and put that green belt around my waist. I want that green belt."
GL: When might your next fight take place?
JC: "I want to fight before the end of the year, but I'll have to talk to my people and see."
GL: Closing thoughts for the fans?
JC: "I really want to thank Bob Arum for what he has done for me. I want to thank Boxingtalk and G. Leon as well, and all of my fans around the world."
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Re: Joshua Clottey Wants Margarito Rematch Asap
Clottey has certainly earned it. I'd like to see Tony rematch Williams and Clottey fight Berto. Then Tony and Clottey can fight again.
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Re: Joshua Clottey Wants Margarito Rematch Asap
I wouldnt mind seeing a rematch. I think I would favor Margarito to beat him again, but it would be competitive like the 1st fight. Margarito has been been fighting at a faster pace since their first fight and would gt off to a better start in a rematch. MAybe the winner of a Clottey-Williams fight could fight Margarito.
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I Dont Think That Margarito Can Take Clottey. If He Didn't Break His Hand I Believe He Would Of Won. Everyone Is Making Margarito Seem Unbeatable But He Fights Sloppy He Has Good Stamina And Good Work Rate But He Wont Make It Past 2 Title Defenses I Promise.
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Re: Joshua Clottey Wants Margarito Rematch Asap
Am I crazy but in their first fight didn't Margarito hurt his hand too? I could of had too many beers that night, but I could of swore both had injured hands after the fight.
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I think Clotty actually ended up hurting both.... THe left the worst but his right hand was hemmed up a bit too.
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I agree with the one guy, Margarito wasn't started slow against Clottey and Paul Williams because they didn't allow for him to get off. I think he won't have more than two defenses if he fights Williams again. I am not so sure Clottey would beat him, both are nearly impossible to hurt, but Margarito is so strong late.
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I thought Clottey was losing against Zab and Marg would definitely beat him.
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Re: Joshua Clottey Wants Margarito Rematch Asap
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Originally Posted by
terrorsid
I Dont Think That Margarito Can Take Clottey. If He Didn't Break His Hand I Believe He Would Of Won. Everyone Is Making Margarito Seem Unbeatable But He Fights Sloppy He Has Good Stamina And Good Work Rate But He Wont Make It Past 2 Title Defenses I Promise.
Joshua Clottey did not break his hands thats what the reports said but Joshua Clottey later admitted he didn't break his hand this is one of the biggest myths in boxing today.......
And as i've said about 10 times Antonio Margarito had a severe sprained ankle and a shoulder injury before the fight so he also wasn't in top shape either so lets be fair here.
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terrorsid
I Dont Think That Margarito Can Take Clottey. If He Didn't Break His Hand I Believe He Would Of Won. Everyone Is Making Margarito Seem Unbeatable But He Fights Sloppy He Has Good Stamina And Good Work Rate But He Wont Make It Past 2 Title Defenses I Promise.
Joshua Clottey did not break his hands thats what the reports said but Joshua Clottey later admitted he didn't break his hand this is one of the biggest myths in boxing today.......
And as i've said about 10 times Antonio Margarito had a severe sprained ankle and a shoulder injury before the fight so he also wasn't in top shape either so lets be fair here.
Thats BS he really did hurt his hand and Margarito fans will stand tall for their guy i understand but i guess time will prove everything Clottey and Paul Williams are the men right now. Margarito shouldn't just get a rematch with Cotto or Williams i think since Clottey lost 2 Margarito they should fight first and the winner fights Paul cause he beat Margarito. Berto he to have a lil more fights b4 he just in the mix if you ask me
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terrorsid
I Dont Think That Margarito Can Take Clottey. If He Didn't Break His Hand I Believe He Would Of Won. Everyone Is Making Margarito Seem Unbeatable But He Fights Sloppy He Has Good Stamina And Good Work Rate But He Wont Make It Past 2 Title Defenses I Promise.
Joshua Clottey did not break his hands thats what the reports said but Joshua Clottey later admitted he didn't break his hand this is one of the biggest myths in boxing today.......
And as i've said about 10 times Antonio Margarito had a severe sprained ankle and a shoulder injury before the fight so he also wasn't in top shape either so lets be fair here.
Thats BS he really did hurt his hand and Margarito fans will stand tall for their guy i understand but i guess time will prove everything Clottey and Paul Williams are the men right now. Margarito shouldn't just get a rematch with Cotto or Williams i think since Clottey lost 2 Margarito they should fight first and the winner fights Paul cause he beat Margarito. Berto he to have a lil more fights b4 he just in the mix if you ask me
He hurt his hand but he didn't break it.
- Margarito suffered from a severe sprained ankle only a week before the bout, and also had problems with his left shoulder as reported days before the fight.
- Clottey suffered an injured left hand in round four, probably while landing a left uppercut. He immediately went into retreat and told his corner at the break.
- Showtime reported this live, explaining why Clottey proceded to lose rounds five through eleven on all three official scorecards.
- Clottey later admitted his hand was not broken as initially reported.
- Margarito threw 1675 punches
Retrieved from "http://www.boxrec.com/media/index.php/Antonio_Margarito_vs._Joshua_Clottey"
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Re: Joshua Clottey Wants Margarito Rematch Asap
even if it was a sprain you clearly know he was winning b4 that then just started losing??? Margarito is average just a big active welterweight
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if cotto was his size it would of been a different fight ii think he should move up a weight class and paul williams honestly
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terrorsid
even if it was a sprain you clearly know he was winning b4 that then just started losing??? Margarito is average just a big active welterweight
How can you compare a hurt hand to a severly sprained ankle and a shoulder injury ? too much was made of Joshua Clottey's "hurt hand" it was more to do with Antonio Margarito wearing him down with body shots.....
And so what if Joshua Clottey "was winning" Yaqui Lopez dominated the first 8 rounds against Matthew Saad Muhammad in there 2nd fight but lost in the 14th round Miguel Cotto was winning against Antonio Margarito until he lost in the 11th round......
Theres be thousands of fighters "who were winning" against a certain opponent but all the matters is who won the fight and that was Antonio Margarito........
And i find your other comment silly aswell "if" Miguel Cotto was the same size of Antonio Margarito ? well what if Evander Holyfield was the same size of Riddick Bowe ? or if Joe Frazier was the same size of Muhammad Ali......
You could say that about any fighter in the history of the sport.
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Re: Joshua Clottey Wants Margarito Rematch Asap
In any sport, when it comes right down to it, THERE ARE NO EXCUSES.
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terrorsid
even if it was a sprain you clearly know he was winning b4 that then just started losing??? Margarito is average just a big active welterweight
I dont want to run into an extraordinary welterweight.
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Re: Joshua Clottey Wants Margarito Rematch Asap
Yea you people will talk til the actual fight happens i still think the same Clottey will be the new guy to hold down welterweight if its not Paul Williams believe it or not Margarito is trash he has no technique it only a matter of time just watch if you add there loses its still not more than Margarito loses.....
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terrorsid
Yea you people will talk til the actual fight happens i still think the same Clottey will be the new guy to hold down welterweight if its not Paul Williams believe it or not Margarito is trash he has no technique it only a matter of time just watch if you add there loses its still not more than Margarito loses.....
Clotty has the ability to be the man at welter but the rest of your post just lost me.
I'm going to neg rep you because of the fact that you have the balls to call a man "trash" after he effectivly dismantled one of the best P4P fighters in the world. How the hell can you even justify that comment?
Did you even see the fight? He willed his way past Cotto... Sheer guts determination, chin and workrate... Margo has the ability to box a bit but chooses not to as he would rather go through a target then around it.
The second part of your post is idiotic...
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terrorsid
Yea you people will talk til the actual fight happens i still think the same Clottey will be the new guy to hold down welterweight if its not Paul Williams believe it or not Margarito is trash he has no technique it only a matter of time just watch if you add there loses its still not more than Margarito loses.....
I've seen Clottey fight and no doubt he's got some skills but call me crazy, i was not impressed in his fight against Judah.. I thought Judah had won the fight when it went to the cards because clottey wasn't doing anything.. Judah obviously doesn' thave the power anymore at welterweight to do any real damage but he was smacking clottey around most of the fight..
So, not only are you saying that he beats Margarito, but that he holds down the WW division? I just don't see anything superhuman about this guy to say such a thing.. he fought Margo and lost, and i see that happening again.. In fact i think his best matchup would be against Tony because he's going to stand toe to toe and fight.. if Clottey fought Cotto, he'd have some problems..
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Re: Joshua Clottey Wants Margarito Rematch Asap
Always was bothered by the bullshit talk about how people knew Clottey would have won if he hadn't "broken" his hand. Clottey doesn't like the kind of pace Margarito sets. His conditioning is suspect and he has had a habit of fading late while Margarito is as good a closer as anybody in boxing. But of course that had nothing to do with it, it was just Clottey's "broken" hand.
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I think Clottey's injured hand changed the tone of the fight, but that isn't the only determining factor. It's just as irresponsible to counter Clottey's injury with Margarito's injury. None of us knows how much more or less either fighter's injury effected his game than the other guy. Some guys have a positive response to pain. You could just as easily make the argument that because Margarito was hurt that he fought even harder as opposed to Clottey not fighting well. They're 2 different people. Clottey was winning and then after he hurt his hand he wasn't. That also has something to do with Margarito. He didn't just stand there and let Clottey hurt his hands on his face and then start fighting. Clottey was still active, just not active enough and that, in part, is due to what Margarito was doing in the ring.
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In any sport, when it comes right down to it, THERE ARE NO EXCUSES.
Hallelujah!
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Re: Joshua Clottey Wants Margarito Rematch Asap
I think one or two guys when posting on this must have been drunk.
Margarito is not garbage. He just destroyed the man who alledgedly ran Mayweather into retirement.
Clottey is not busy enough to beat Margarito. I doubt Clottey threw 1675 punches in his last 2 fights never mind in one.
Clottey has talent but there are a few welterweights that would beat him.
Clottey in my opinion was not losing against Zab.
Zab, after getting cut by what TV shows was a left uppercut, decided to quit and go to the cards as he thought he was winning.
Clottey landed more punches than Judah according to compubox
All in all, my view is that Clottey won and the right decision was read out by the judges. It should have been a TKO victory anyway if the TV angles of the uppercut was correct.
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OumaFan
Always was bothered by the bullshit talk about how people knew Clottey would have won if he hadn't "broken" his hand. Clottey doesn't like the kind of pace Margarito sets. His conditioning is suspect and he has had a habit of fading late while Margarito is as good a closer as anybody in boxing. But of course that had nothing to do with it, it was just Clottey's "broken" hand.
You have to admit it had an immediate effect on his performance though. I think people in trying to discredit the broken hand take it to far the other way. It's not as if Clottey simply gassed out entirely after 5 rounds but then still had enough to hang for the remaining 7 and go the distance absorbing punishment. He definetly stopped throwing with the same conviction after the 4th or 5th(cant remember), and in between the rnds he is complaining to his corner about it. No way he just suddenly didn't have the stamina, he was raking Margo with a lot of hard counters that just stopped coming. Sure, Clottey has suspect stamina in the late rounds, but Margarito is actually a pretty good stylistic matchup for him regardless. I think Clottey struggles most with his stamina when he is forced to set a pace or come forward himself. With Margarito he's always going to have oppourtunities to land the harder cleaner counter shots, as Margo can't hurt him with a single punch or make him set the pace. I'd pick Clottey over Margarito in a heartbeat if they did sign to a rematch. Wouldn't put much money on it given the chance, but I'd definetly favour Clottey to win.
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Originally Posted by
terrorsid
Yea you people will talk til the actual fight happens i still think the same Clottey will be the new guy to hold down welterweight if its not Paul Williams believe it or not Margarito is trash he has no technique it only a matter of time just watch if you add there loses its still not more than Margarito loses.....
I TOLD YOU PEOPLE MOSLEY EXPOSED HIM:cool:
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Re: Joshua Clottey Wants Margarito Rematch Asap
The first fight was very close that could go either side, and Clottey could earn that victory. Both of them are strong welters and in a rematch I expect another exciting, close fight, and I will not be surprised with a draw.
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The interview was back in august of last year.
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Long Live Margarito This Post Was It 2005
I Thought He'd At Least Defend It Once Guess I Was Wrong:d
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Speaking of Margrito what ever happen to them telling us what was in the gloves i mean they say it was in march and i have not see anything yet.
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Originally Posted by
terrorsid
Yea you people will talk til the actual fight happens i still think the same Clottey will be the new guy to hold down welterweight if its not Paul Williams believe it or not Margarito is trash he has no technique it only a matter of time just watch if you add there loses its still not more than Margarito loses.....
i was wrong about clottey taking over but not wrong about ya boy margarito *wink wink*
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am i the only one who believes in clottey?
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Re: Joshua Clottey Wants Margarito Rematch Asap
I think Margarito would just outwork him. Clottey's the better fighter technically, but he doesn't have the power or the workrate to beat Margarito IMO, though by all accounts he gave him a good fight last time around.