Frankie Gavin out of the Games

Failed to make the weight

http://sport.setanta.com/en/Sport/News/Other-sports/2008/08/07/Olympics-Gavin-to-miss-Olympics/

Britain's best boxing hope for a gold medal, Frankie Gavin has pulled out of the 2008 Olympics, due to problems making the 60kg lightweight limit.

Gavin, who became the first British fighter ever to win a world amateur gold medal last year in Chicago, has had problems making 9st 6lbs since then and conceded defeat on Thursday.

Gavin has fought in competitions this year at the light welterweight division but with his team-mate Bradley Saunders qualifying for the competition he was unable to represent his country in this weight class.

The news is a particular blow as the Birmingham fighter had beaten all his main rivals in the competition and was viewed as the favourite to take the gold.

Gavin has been training full time at the English Institute of Sport in Sheffield for several months, funded by UK Sport and lottery funding, and the GB Olympic team are likely to come in for a lot of criticism for leaving it until the eve of the tournament before dropping this bombshell.

It now seems likely that Gavin will turn professional and there is likely to be a clamour for his signature and Oscar de la Hoya, Frank Warren, Mick Hennessy have already made their intentions known to sign them

Oh dear, oh dear.

Hard luck Frankie.

I just heard this on Radio 1.

How on earth did he not make weight? it's not as if he didn't have enough time for preperation!

He fought as lightweight at the WC only last year, surely he could still make the weight? :confused:

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I just heard this on Radio 1.

How on earth did he not make weight? it's not as if he didn't have enough time for preperation!

He fought as lightweight at the WC only last year, surely he could still make the weight? :confused:

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Weight training incorrectly.

Probably a Blessing in disgiuse, easy done at his age outgrowing the Division.

Pretty sure it FW that predicted this would happen on one of those Steve Bunce boxing shows.

How long before he makes his pro debut?

I knew he struggled but mainly just at the the tourney's where he fought on 4 consecutive days....because he had to lose weight to make weight everyday. He said the Olympics would be easier for him because the bouts are spaced out, so to not make weight is very strange.

Feel sorry for the other guy who missed out because Frankie was 'going'

Sad news

LEts hope he doesn't sign wth Warren the ugly cunt

Wasn't Hattohn's chum Kerry Kayes involved nutritionally?

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Very well noted.

OK, so there's one medal off our boxing team's list....real shame, seemed like a good lad an very talented.

When was the last time he fought/made weight? Very possible he grew out of it, but if they recently implemnted a touger weights regime on a guy struggling to make weight, heads should turn.

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To be fair i think he's a bit of a clown. Not sure what qualifications he has. Remember him telling somebody on the Hatton forum (ask kerry bit) that all consumed protein gets stored directly as muscle. So by that theory, you could eat an actual tonne of it and look like Ronnie Coleman by the end of the day.

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To be fair i think he's a bit of a clown. Not sure what qualifications he has. Remember him telling somebody on the Hatton forum (ask kerry bit) that all consumed protein gets stored directly as muscle. So by that theory, you could eat an actual tonne of it and look like Ronnie Coleman by the end of the day.

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They say he's Ricky's nutritionist also.
How many times have we seen Ricky coming inot big fights with cold sores and having been ill a couple of months previous?
(Maussa, Collazo, Urango, Castillo, Mayweather, Lazcano.)
If his body was correctly fuelled he wouldn't be getting sick before fights.

Perhaps he knows weights, but this is boxing.

Dead cert for a gold imo (current World Champ) and Frank Warren said this would happen a while ago:(
HUGE loss and a great little fighter, guess he'll turn pro now!!
British boxer Frankie Gavin pulls out of Olympics - mirror.co.uk

Your about 8 hours to late...

Some of us work
;D

I am at work....;D

Then again it doesnt mean i am working...:o

;D;D;D;D

Whats happened again

The GB squadHas the best Nuitrisionist in the biusness a guy called Nigel Ive worked with Him. He is superb, listen to him you wont go wrong. But this has been an ongoing thing, that hasnt worked out, still we still have seven in the Games which is Brilliant. ;D

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The GB squadHas the best Nuitrisionist in the biusness a guy called Nigel Ive worked with Him. He is superb, listen to him you wont go wrong. But this has been an ongoing thing, that hasnt worked out, still we still have seven in the Games which is Brilliant. ;D

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What's the ongoing thing? do they not listen to him?

Not knowing what's going on it's impossible to point the finger, I have my doubts about Kayes, then again I think he was only consulted about Gavin recently, so maybe he was a lost cause before then.

Anyway, as you said it's a great result with 7, and Gavin will still hold a lot of cards when negotiating a professional deal, he should be able to start his career in a better position than 99.9% of guys.

I heard about this earlier today!Im totally gutted that he has'nt made the weight.I mean why has'nt he done soo?!A great opportunatey to really shine again and show the world his talents and get us brits a gold medal too.I bet he got a big offer of a top promoter to fight pro.I bet £££££ blinded him.I mean come on,how the hell has he and his coach fucked up his weight on the run up to a great tournament like the Games?Sound dodgey if you ask me.I wish him luck,but i'am gutted!:eek:

Bomp, The Bottom line is He qualified at Light There is young who has also qualified at Light welter so that wasnt an option. Gavin has a problem making Light He struggled in the Worlds to make weight, Hence 9 months down the line its become a bigger problem. Now its okay to start calling everybody involved a wanker, but Franky didnt qualify at Lt welter where the other guy did. Now Im just guessing but in the squad they Spar and I should think those two Spar together and the powers that be watch and observe whom at that weight is the better of the two. Now the so called experts are having a field day those who have an axe to grind are out in Force saying They told us so. Trouble is I never heard them say anything constructive. Only how they could do it Better, I know most of them and the bottom line is they couldnt its Bullshit.

Olympics: 'What happened this morning has cost Frankie Gavin a million pounds'


Kerry Kayes, the sports nutritionist who appeared to have salvaged Frankie Gavin's hopes of making the lightweight limit, has described the subsequent failure of the British amateur boxing team to help their fighter in his now lost battle with the scales as "criminal" and "devastating". Gavin is due to return home today from the British training camp in Macau, a day before the Olympic Games actually begin in Beijing.




Olympics: 'What happened this morning has cost Frankie Gavin a million pounds' | Sport | guardian.co.uk

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Bomp, The Bottom line is He qualified at Light There is young who has also qualified at Light welter so that wasnt an option. Gavin has a problem making Light He struggled in the Worlds to make weight, Hence 9 months down the line its become a bigger problem. Now its okay to start calling everybody involved a wanker, but Franky didnt qualify at Lt welter where the other guy did. Now Im just guessing but in the squad they Spar and I should think those two Spar together and the powers that be watch and observe whom at that weight is the better of the two. Now the so called experts are having a field day those who have an axe to grind are out in Force saying They told us so. Trouble is I never heard them say anything constructive. Only how they could do it Better, I know most of them and the bottom line is they couldnt its Bullshit.

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I get what you mean, it's a damn shame for the guy, and sounds like he never was going to make it.

Ah well I'm glad I'll look forward to seeing him in the pro's. I've never given two shits about the amatuers, it's not proper boxing at all imo, it's like cycling with stabalisers or swimming with armbands, who cares who wins, not I.

:pointlol: Frankie Gavin

I'm not sure if he'll lose that much money as stated, I reckon all this publicity has put him right in the spotlight and he will now be able to command a very good deal turning pro (ok maybe not as good as if he'd have won a medal). Its a shame though,

Jesus the Kid won a World Title nine Months ago a harder thing to do than winning the Olympics. Frankies up there with the Elite. ;D

Here's an interview with Gavin's coach, goes a long way to explaining why he didn't make weight. Interesting read if true, especially if like me you initially thought Gavin himself or his coach was to blame...

Frankie Gavins Coach Furious

Tom Chaney, Frankie's coach last night accused the British squad’s leaders of letting down their star fighter, by sending him home saying he could not shed the final 3lb.

The 60kg division was widely expected to be Gavin's chance of gold but Hall Green ABC's Chaney blasted the GB team for their treatment of Frankie.

Chaney said that they were aware of Frankie's ever increasing weight and ignored the advice for him to move up a division. Frankie was reportedly suffering from cracked tongue and other dehydration related signs in the run up to the event.

Speaking to reporter Ian Johnson :-

“Everybody who went to the Olympics had to sign an agreement not to talk about their experiences when they got home without permission yet Frankie hasn’t had that permission as yet and therefore cannot say anything except how sorry he is about what happened and that he is gutted at being sent home.

“What many people do not know, but Team GB did, was that for the last few months Frankie has been killing himself in training just to keep his weight down.

“As part of the team’s preparation they meet up every week in Sheffield and train from Monday to Thursday before returning to their home gyms.

“Frankie Gavin went to the Olympic Games proud to be British, proud to be a Brummie and proud to represent Hall Green ABC.

“He has come back severely hurt, let down, angry and, in my view, conned out of a gold medal.

“It goes back to the World Championships in Chicago earlier this year where he had a huge problem to get down to the 60-kilo weight. But he did it, went on to win the gold medal (the first Brit ever to do so) and to qualify for the Olympic Games.

“Frankie and I sat down and decided that it was the right time to turn professional. He was world champion and big offers came in from the pro ranks.

“But the amateur authorities came back at us. Frankie was offered a larger grant, which is a million miles away from the reported £70,000 he is supposedly getting, and told him they would get him ready for the Olympics.

“We wanted Frankie to move up to the 64k division but they wouldn’t have that. Bradley Saunders was in that division and it would have meant one of them dropping out after a box-off to go to Beijing.

“That would have weakened the team. They wanted two boxers with medal-winning prospects not one.

“Frankie was worried about the weight problem. He was told quite categorically not to worry and that they would ensure that they got the weight off him. The lure of the Olympics played a massive part. Winning a gold would have been huge and it would also have been a big incentive when joining the professional ranks.

“We decided to stay amateur and I accept my part in making that decision. But the end result is that Frankie has been let down.

“They promised to look after him and they didn’t.”

that article really does shed some light on the situation. Wasn't too sure what was going on during my previous comments, but he had been fighting at the higher weights since the champs last year. I think both sides need to to ease off each other when spreading blame, can't really blame the olympics commitee wanting two guys in the games rather than sacrificing one, can't really blame Gavin either since he had obvious difficulty making the weight, and if he really did have cracked tounge they were right to pull him out.

I'd harzard a guess that conflicting advice from different nutritionist surely didn't help though.