Carl Froch (The Froak)

Anyone else sick of this guy and his fans?

All he does is slag off great champions and proclaim he is king dick. I mean he is 31yo WTF has he done? he has fought more bums than any fighter in history yet was on tv yesterday saying what has Kessler done to be mentioned above me! all he done was lose to Calzaghe and i`ll knock him out in 5rds if he has the guts to get in the ring with me.

The guy is a fraud!

Please someone knock him out at least Hamed won a few world titles this guy is ultra annoying.

If you havent already noticed hes been ducked a lot this year and he is stepping up to the plate. Inkin pulled out twice and hes top 10 IMO. Jean Pascal is the start of something new for Froch and you will be able to see his true potential in this fight. Its a matter of time before Carl has to fight a top 10 fighter, and its going to happen soon. Just you wait and see !

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Originally Posted by Tam Seddon

If you havent already noticed hes been ducked a lot this year and he is stepping up to the plate. Inkin pulled out twice and hes top 10 IMO. Jean Pascal is the start of something new for Froch and you will be able to see his true potential in this fight. Its a matter of time before Carl has to fight a top 10 fighter, and its going to happen soon. Just you wait and see !

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Froch is good but to say he'd KO Kessler in 5 is a joke

you' ll see ;D

Yeah he could beat Kessler but KO him in 5, think not unless your talking about your dreams ;D

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Originally Posted by Tam Seddon

If you havent already noticed hes been ducked a lot this year and he is stepping up to the plate. Inkin pulled out twice and hes top 10 IMO. Jean Pascal is the start of something new for Froch and you will be able to see his true potential in this fight. Its a matter of time before Carl has to fight a top 10 fighter, and its going to happen soon. Just you wait and see !

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Pascal will get injured in training. That is his routine ;D

Froch really needs to go to the States for a fight, he is no spring chicken and needs to make a move NOW. SW fighters may be more willing to fight him as long as he comes over to this side of the Atlantic.

well either way who ever fights Carl Froch will have to be ranked top 10 in the WBC, and all of those fighters are a decent challenge for him. The step up was Inkin but he pulled out,twice. But sooon you will see Froch in action!

I agree Inkin ducked him.

But as DiBella said why has he yet to fight anyone decent and if he couldnt get those fights in the UK he should have fought in America by now.

Hell Bika would be 3 leagues above the bums he fought he is giving Roy Jones a bad name with the bum bashing.

Froch is a joke

If he really believed in his abilitys, hge would have made a push before now, with either more opponents or better opposition.

I dont mind a contender fighting shit opposition as long as its say every month or 2 but to do like Carl and fight 1 or 2 crap opponents a year is a rubbish career, especilly when you count the fact he is now in his 30s and yet to fight a world class opponent and his physical attriubutes will be on the wain before hes even established.

To say all Kessler has done is lose to Calzaghe is his jelousy, that is still better than hes done any way the twat.

Alot of Carls confidence comes from his power but all his spar mates are smaller than him, same as his opponents, like light middle goenwald;D

Darren Barker sparred both and commented that Kesslers whole game was good, including his power, all he had to say about Carl was he hit hard;D Hes from the weight below so hes bound to:rolleyes:

If he were to fight Kessler, someone used to taking genuine world class supermiddle power and giving it back he will come unstuck, he has never been someone who can fight at a fast pace, even against the low level hes faced so far, so he really is setting him self up for a big fall.

Froch is the real deal, the only difference between him and Kessler is that he has not had the opportunity to show it.

Maybe it's Hennessy's fault Froch hasn't kicked on?

He's had injury problems, but you'd think a fighter that has never moved beyond Brit title level would be more active.

Or maybe Froch has a few bob in the bank. His fight schedule is on a par with Calzaghe, Oscar, Hatton etc :rolleyes:

He is FRESH for a 31-year-old - but the hold-up (barring current fighters ducking him) isn't good.

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Originally Posted by Fenster

Maybe it's Hennessy's fault Froch hasn't kicked on?

He's had injury problems, but you'd think a fighter that has never moved beyond Brit title level would be more active.

Or maybe Froch has a few bob in the bank. His fight schedule is on a par with Calzaghe, Oscar, Hatton etc :rolleyes:

He is FRESH for a 31-year-old - but the hold-up (barring current fighters ducking him) isn't good.

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Seems like a heavier version of Vic Darchinyan.. A 1 dimensional chin 1st fighter with low hands begging to get starched when he steps up.. I think he needs a better promoter if he's 31 with no solid win on his resume, but shoots his mouth off with regularity but dosent have the credentials to do so

I don't think he's as good or will be as successful as Vic Darchinyan

Cant see anyone wanting to fight Froch personally.

Hits too hard, very good stamina and carries his power from the first to the last bell.

The other fighters in the division know what they see and that it will take a lot to beat him and they would probably get bust up doing it.

Beatable = yes.

Does anyone fancy it? = no.

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Originally Posted by Master

Froch is the real deal, the only difference between him and Kessler is that he has not had the opportunity to show it.

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Sorry mate but everyone directs their own destiny, wether it be Mick Hennesy or Carl himself, he hasnt had a career of note as yet, no big names, hes not fighting often and his biggest mistake was turning down Frank Warrens offer to fight Joe.

No one really knows what was in that offer but if Carl trully believed in himself he would have snapped it up, as it is hes left on the sidelines while everyone else makes money and a name for themselves, maybe it was Hennesy not happy with the options clause but Carl is the only one who can ultimately say yes or no.

If he did beat Joe and was then managed by Frank hed be a darn site more adavanced in his career by now!

WEven if it were shiit money, hed still have been paid more than in the time since then what hes earnt and hed have jumped the rankings, if his display was good enough.

Truth be told, both he and Mick no his limitations and are trying to cherry pick their way to the top.

If I were Carl and that offer came, its either shit or get off the pot, well he got off the pot and hes now bitching that everyone is running from him, when truth be told they are only doing what he is, waiting for a better opportunity, id have taken the Calzaghe fight, what better opportunity is there than to fight the best in your division.

Now hes a luiability, hes got old hasnt been tested and is injury prone, hes not fought any real tests and when he does step up hes gonna find it difficult to live with the pace and skill of the top fighters he s done so well to avoid.

If you were Mick Henessy would you really be that confident in putting a slow pced easy to hit 30 odd year old who hasnt got experience with world class in with Joe Calzaghe?

You wouldnt, which is why Cafrl is styill in his lowly laughable position.

I bet he reeads these forums and sees that people mention more about hjis age, inactivity and inexperince than they do his fighting qualitys, I reckon thats why he talks alot, to paper over the cracks.

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Originally Posted by Clanger

Cant see anyone wanting to fight Froch personally.

Hits too hard, very good stamina and carries his power from the first to the last bell.

The other fighters in the division know what they see and that it will take a lot to beat him and they would probably get bust up doing it.

Beatable = yes.

Does anyone fancy it? = no.

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How do you know he has stamina or carries his power for 12rds?

Im sorry but going 11rds with Brian Magee proves nothing id like to see him in with a guy ranked and coming in to win. Why has he yet to fight even a fringe contender.... Zuniga, Bika? anyone.

Oh yeah, forgot about mcaee, even at that stage of his career, Reid was able to drop Eamon at will, ok Froch stopped him but magee held on for dear life against Robin.

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Originally Posted by ross

Oh yeah, forgot about mcaee, even at that stage of his career, Reid was able to drop Eamon at will, ok Froch stopped him but magee held on for dear life against Robin.

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The fight was level until the 11th.

Honestly, Carl and Henessy sports are quite happy with his position right now, everyone thinks hes shiit rather than knowing it;D

just wait till the Pascal fight and we can see him in a real fight. Pascal will be knocked out ;D

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Originally Posted by Tam Seddon

If you havent already noticed hes been ducked a lot this year and he is stepping up to the plate. Inkin pulled out twice and hes top 10 IMO. Jean Pascal is the start of something new for Froch and you will be able to see his true potential in this fight. Its a matter of time before Carl has to fight a top 10 fighter, and its going to happen soon. Just you wait and see !

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I happen 2 have a bit of a soft spot 4 Froch,I want him 2 do well,but his fans are delutional! Theres this 1 that comes on the Sports site I go on,and some of the shit he comes out with is outrages! "Calzaghe ducked Froch" "Froch would destroy Calzaghe" etc He wont be reasoned with! I was starting 2 think it was Froch at 1 point!

Whoever he gets next its gotta be a big name and he's gotta look really good otherwise its pretty much over for him at this stage

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Originally Posted by Tam Seddon

If you havent already noticed hes been ducked a lot this year and he is stepping up to the plate. Inkin pulled out twice and hes top 10 IMO. Jean Pascal is the start of something new for Froch and you will be able to see his true potential in this fight. Its a matter of time before Carl has to fight a top 10 fighter, and its going to happen soon. Just you wait and see !

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I happen 2 have a bit of a soft spot 4 Froch,I want him 2 do well,but his fans are delutional! Theres this 1 that comes on the Sports site I go on,and some of the shit he comes out with is outrages! "Calzaghe ducked Froch" "Froch would destroy Calzaghe" etc He wont be reasoned with! I was starting 2 think it was Froch at 1 point!

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well im not like that at all. I know that JC would beat Carl Froch. It doesnt mean that Carl wouldnt give him a good fight though! JC didnt duck him its only because Carl doesnt have a big enough name and JC is only after money now so therefore Froch would not get a lot for fighting him. Either way I think it would be a tough fight for JC

Im no fan but Joe did duck him and when he was creeping up the WBO rankings they (warren) tried to sign him. When that failed they stalled his ranking. Conspiracy? not really. It happens all the time with the WBO. Just like when Marquez was Naz's mandatory for 2 years and Warren didn't want Naz to risk it.

Warren and Sauerland have the every belt in every division, apart from a couple of puerto ricans home-soil champs.

They know the hand(s) that feeds them.

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Originally Posted by Clanger

Im no fan but Joe did duck him and when he was creeping up the WBO rankings they (warren) tried to sign him. When that failed they stalled his ranking. Conspiracy? not really. It happens all the time with the WBO. Just like when Marquez was Naz's mandatory for 2 years and Warren didn't want Naz to risk it.

Warren and Sauerland have the every belt in every division, apart from a couple of puerto ricans home-soil champs.

They know the hand(s) that feeds them.

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Why would Calzaghe duck Carl Froch? he had no name and brought no money.

I want Carl to do well really but he does come out with the most incredable bullshit sometimes.

Pascal is a step in the right direction but is by no means worldclass.

I watched Pascals last fight, or clips of it on youtube and he got hurt, he has a decent style but not much power, it will make an interesting fight.

I think the biggest thing in Pascals favour is he had 5 fights last year and 1 at the beggining of this year so should be sharp:confused:

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Originally Posted by Tam Seddon

If you havent already noticed hes been ducked a lot this year and he is stepping up to the plate. Inkin pulled out twice and hes top 10 IMO. Jean Pascal is the start of something new for Froch and you will be able to see his true potential in this fight. Its a matter of time before Carl has to fight a top 10 fighter, and its going to happen soon. Just you wait and see !

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Jean Pascal is hardly world class. If he KO's Pascal it will mean nothing at all to me. Froch wastes all this time, talk all this trash, and the best he can come up with is Jean Pascal? Here's my take on this fight. Both guys have built names for themselves padding records with bums. Now they will fight and the winner gets a "big" and "important" win. Froch fans will claim with win means something when it means nothing. Let him fight Kessler, Andrade, or even Bika, then come and talk to me. Froch is a very average, highly protected fighter who will get sparked when he gets in with actual world class boxer.

It's not Froch's fault if no fooker wants to fight him.

Heck, Taylor would rather swerve a straight shot at the WBC title and fight Lacy than 'overhyped' Froch.

I just want to see if he is legit to end this talk once and for all - but i dont blame lack of fights on him.

Froch bring nothing 2 the table though and thats what it boils down 2 at the end of the day,I dont know the ins and outs of Taylor Vs Lacey,but Lacey brings more 2 the table than Froch.Taylor Vs Lacey would of been massive over in the US a few years ago,thats still a big fight over there,nobody in the US apart from your hardcore boxing fans have heard of Froch!

Pascal tells us nothing, should have been fighting that type of comp a couple years ago. He was offered career high from Warren for a free shot at Calzaghe last summer and didn't take it, whether Warren would have tied him down afterwards is besides the point when you get the chance of lifetime to prove the total bollocks you've been spouting for two years prior.

Egfuckinzactly!!!!!

Even if I were wrong and Froch has just been a bit shy about taking on the big boys and he does have some talent, by the time hes got round to putting his big boys pants on itll be to late and these "awesome reflexes" ive failed to notice will be on the decline;D

Never mind, at least he cant get any worse looking, what a beak on im eh;D

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Originally Posted by ross

Egfuckinzactly!!!!!

Even if I were wrong and Froch has just been a bit shy about taking on the big boys and he does have some talent, by the time hes got round to putting his big boys pants on itll be to late and these "awesome reflexes" ive failed to notice will be on the decline;D

Never mind, at least he cant get any worse looking, what a beak on im eh;D

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Ross, the way you go on about Froch i'd have thought you'd came home and found him hanging out the back of ya momma.

She can do better;)

He is tiresome, hes always talkin about smokin boots:rolleyes:

Start by fighting some live bodys, anyone can push over a dead one;D

He has done absolutely nothing of note, how does he get a following, what are his "fans" basing their support on ?

Which world rated fighter has he beaten to make people take notice?

Will he be 32 before he even gets a title shot?

Its fucking ridiculous, the bloke should be ashamed of himself, in a sport like boxing where people have lost their lives, fighting their heart out, hes picking soft options and only fighting once or twice a year, then he shames himself more by provclaiming that the same people who have offered him fights, have avoided him;D;D;D

froch is talented. but his opinion of himself might be to high

Whats the average age SMWs turn pro? It seems to me he turned Pro a bit late,but then decided to go the same route fight wise as if he would of turned pro earlier.Now all of a sudden he wants bigger fights,but nobodys intrested cos he's high risk with no name to back it up! Even people in UK aint heard of him apart from your Hardcore/casual Boxing fans!

Well, hes in to his 7th year as a pro and has only 23 fights to his name, not one was a world class fighter.

Thats an average of about 3 fights a year, im not sure he even wants to be a boxer.

That is a joke, if I were his manager, id have him fighting every month, even shit opponents just to keep him busy.

Hes acting as if he is a champ and can sit back and pick and choose, his inactivity has caused him his biggest problem, know one knows who he is!

If he were fighting every month then people might recognise him and that might give him a better chance at getting decent fights, if he really wants them, hes already turned down a Calzaghe match!!

As it is, fighting just a coupla times a year is getting him nowhere.

Chris Eubank,Robin Reid and Joe Calzaghe were all 24 when they wan their titles and Ben was 26, Carl is 31 and going nowhere and everyone is laughing at him;D

BBC SPORT | Boxing | Calzaghe offer not clear - Froch


Thats for the peanuts who think Calzaghe has been ducking no-name Froak when infact it is the other way round.

Froch has to use Calzaghe to get his name in the mix. Whilst a good boxer he is 31 and needs to fight a credible opponent, whether is bad luck, people are ducking him or plain bullshit.

Hennessey needs to pull out all the stops to get Froch a big fight for a title so we can see whether or not he can cut the mustard

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Originally Posted by plopeater

Froch has to use Calzaghe to get his name in the mix. Whilst a good boxer he is 31 and needs to fight a credible opponent, whether is bad luck, people are ducking him or plain bullshit.

Hennessey needs to pull out all the stops to get Froch a big fight for a title so we can see whether or not he can cut the mustard

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Looks like he is fighting Pascal for the vacant WBC belt.

Hennessy did a radio interview the weekend and when asked about his and Carls plans he said this:

"It looks like Pascal in Canada in the fall he doesnt have the guts to come here. After we win the belt (WBC) and what i claim the best and liniar title we will defend it a couple of times in Nottingham. Carl has great fans and they deserve to see there champion in the flesh. After a couple of defences we will be looking at fighting in America this time next year against Joe Calzaghe or Kelly Pavlik"

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Originally Posted by plopeater

Froch has to use Calzaghe to get his name in the mix. Whilst a good boxer he is 31 and needs to fight a credible opponent, whether is bad luck, people are ducking him or plain bullshit.

Hennessey needs to pull out all the stops to get Froch a big fight for a title so we can see whether or not he can cut the mustard

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Looks like he is fighting Pascal for the vacant WBC belt.

Hennessy did a radio interview the weekend and when asked about his and Carls plans he said this:

"It looks like Pascal in Canada in the fall he doesnt have the guts to come here. After we win the belt (WBC) and what i claim the best and liniar title we will defend it a couple of times in Nottingham. Carl has great fans and they deserve to see there champion in the flesh. After a couple of defences we will be looking at fighting in America this time next year against Joe Calzaghe or Kelly Pavlik"

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I hope for Frochs sake this comes off and he can bring the belt home. A couple of defences in Nottingham means people ranked 11-15 and not really worthwhile opponents for a belt.

Calzaghe will never fight Froch IMO and Pavlik, if he beats Hopkins will go for Calzaghe or Abrahams.

Th most realistic fight to make would be Kessler