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Cotto on is first loss
You would think after Miguel Cotto’s phenomenal performance in a losing effort last month to Antonio Margarito that fans would be celebrating the Puerto Rican star and looking forward to his next fight. But in a sport where fighters are regularly dismissed after their first loss, that’s not always the case.
While the majority of fight fans have no bad words to say about Cotto taking two knees after sustaining brutal punishment from Margarito, there has a been a small but vocal majority that’s has labeled Cotto a “quitter” who can dish out the brutality but can’t take it.
Even some fans in his native Puerto Rico are upset, arguing that previous island fighters like Felix Trinidad and Wilfredo Gomez would never have submitted like that, especially at the feet of a Mexican, their fierce boxing rivals.
Tired of the accusations, Cotto conducted an interview on the andra pa’l cará show and clarified his position. Here is the translation (courtesy of maxboxing.com member beastineden) regarding the criticisms of him “quitting.”
Host: Ok, in your case as a boxer and champion I imagine that decision was very hard to make because you're thinking “I'm the champion with no losses,” was it you that made the decision or your corner?
Cotto: I was the one that made it, my family was there, my children were present and I was thinking more about them rather than the beating I was getting.
Host: Did you get to see them?
Cotto: Yes I did, a few times.
Host: Really?
Cotto: Yes, there were right next to my corner.
Host: Does it affect ...
Cotto: Well, in this case it did a little but they've always known what my job is and what the risks are.
Host: They are used to it?
Cotto: They're not used to seeing dad in the situation that they saw me a week ago but they know the risks of my job.
Host: You gotta be brave to get up there?
Cotto: Very much, gotta be brave to get up there but it's part of the job, had a bad day but I know many good ones are still ahead.
Host: Miguel being honest, and you always tell it like it is, is it harder to get on the ring or making the decision of putting the knees down?
Cotto: I think in my case it was harder to put a knee down, like you said I didn’t have a loss in my record and to lose this way it was difficult for me, but I want health and I want to see my children grow up and that's what matters.
Host: Now that you tell me that it was you that made the decision not your corner, which is very important, did it ever cross your mind all the reactions that would come after your decision? Did you think about that?
Cotto: No it was all for the benefit of me and my family, I could care less about the comments people make.
Host: For example I heard a comment like ... 'he didn't train hard enough to get on the ring'
Cotto: I always train hard before getting on the ring, Margarito was better than me that night.
Host: For this one you even said you trained more than any other fight.
Cotto: Yes, that's how I felt.
Host: Also comments that you were drinking and partying in Las Vegas
Cotto: I party and have fun but on my time off, I’m very responsible with my job, there's two things I'm very responsible with, my job and my family and I don't play around with them
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I have watched the fight again both versions from HBO and Setanta (Which give you different angles) and from what I have been watching because now I am making a video, and I am viewing it frame by frame, Cotto even in the early rounds was catching some huge shots, in the second round he was clearly phuked up in the nose, some say Tony broke Miguel's nose but I have not been able to confirm nor deny. Bottom line is, Tony was not just walking Miguel down, he was jogging him down. To make a long story short, had Miguel not taken those knees, the chances of Miguel getting knocked the phuk out were almost inevitable. Miguel tried to put a dent in Tony but Miguel's punches were just not effecting Tony that much. Tony had that sick grin on his face in the second round after Miguel had landed some nice clean shots. Tony was able to get to Miguel's body good and plenty while Miguel's attemps to Tony's body were few and far between. After watching the fight again and again, I no longer think Miguel can beat Tony unless Tony is hurt or sick. :-\ Tony is the man right now. I am not counting Miguel out and I will follow his career until the wheels fall off http://www.saddoboxing.com/boxingfor...ons/icon10.gif
The fight that I do want to see is Margarito vs Williams and I am hoping that Tony can redeem himself :mad: Tony really let me down that night :mad:
I also wish PBF would have made good on his word when he told Tony that he would get his shot. Hey Floyd! Tony and the rest of the world is still waiting! And guess what? Guess who is talk shiet about you again Floyd? Could it be Tony? You are God Damn right it is. At least Miguel had the balls to step in the ring and try unlike Floyd who went into retirement rather than to make good on his word some three years ago. :mad:
Margarito the boogie man is back in the mix
;D
I guess I ain't got nothing else to say. It is what it is and it was what it was.
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I was having this discussion last night actually and people have to understand how tough it is when you can't breathe right in a fight.
I don't hear anyone calling Israel Vasquez a coward for packing it in against Marquez in the first fight. He came back and won the other two and one being by ko so for Cotto to hang in there for 11 rounds it should tell you all you need to know about his courage or will to win.
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I never condemn anyone who quits on their stool or takes a knee, only they know whats really going on with their bodies. I would rather someone quit and get out with their health than see another McLellan incident, or more recently Oscar Diaz.
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Danny_G
I have watched the fight again both versions from HBO and Setanta (Which give you different angles) and from what I have been watching because now I am making a video, and I am viewing it frame by frame, Cotto even in the early rounds was catching some huge shots, in the second round he was clearly phuked up in the nose, some say Tony broke Miguel's nose but I have not been able to confirm nor deny. Bottom line is, Tony was not just walking Miguel down, he was jogging him down. To make a long story short, had Miguel not taken those knees, the chances of Miguel getting knocked the phuk out were almost inevitable. Miguel tried to put a dent in Tony but Miguel's punches were just not effecting Tony that much. Tony had that sick grin on his face in the second round after Miguel had landed some nice clean shots. Tony was able to get to Miguel's body good and plenty while Miguel's attemps to Tony's body were few and far between. After watching the fight again and again, I no longer think Miguel can beat Tony unless Tony is hurt or sick. :-\ Tony is the man right now. I am not counting Miguel out and I will follow his career until the wheels fall off
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The fight that I do want to see is Margarito vs Williams and I am hoping that Tony can redeem himself :mad: Tony really let me down that night :mad:
I also wish PBF would have made good on his word when he told Tony that he would get his shot. Hey Floyd! Tony and the rest of the world is still waiting! And guess what? Guess who is talk shiet about you again Floyd? Could it be Tony? You are God Damn right it is. At least Miguel had the balls to step in the ring and try unlike Floyd who went into retirement rather than to make good on his word some three years ago. :mad:
Margarito the boogie man is back in the mix
;D
I guess I ain't got nothing else to say. It is what it is and it was what it was.
;D
Margarito seems more focused on getting Oscar in the ring now then he is getting Floyd in it.
I must say though that him beating Cotto is a huge set up for a fight between the two.
But I'll go with Floyd via decision if him and Margarito ever fight, Floyd isn't going to get drawn into a fight with him.
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After reading that its clear Cotto is not a warrior. Not that i condemn that but you wouldnt see Hatton, Marques or Margarito give up they would have to be KTFO.
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Markusdarkus
After reading that its clear Cotto is not a warrior. Not that i condemn that but you wouldnt see Hatton, Marques or Margarito give up they would have to be KTFO.
A warrior returns home beaten and bloody, shot in his 35s and can't run and play with his children but he got that respect for one fight.
A Family man may take the loss and go on and have a great career with more longevity and when he gets old be able to play with his kids, speak clearly and not have brain damage.
If I had children and you asked me what mattered more, winning a fight or being able to coherently spend time with my children, I would pick my children always.
If my sacrifice to being a warrior was my children, or the ability to spend time with them, then I'd never want to be known as a warrior.
Miguel did the right thing
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Cotto even in the early rounds was catching some huge shots, in the second round he was clearly phuked up in the nose
...and the body too. Remember how he sat on the ropes after the body punch?
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some say Tony broke Miguel's nose but I have not been able to confirm nor deny
There were some uppercuts where Cotto was leaning low to cover himself or from the pain and it could have been one of those because I don't remember any headbutts.
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Tony was not just walking Miguel down, he was jogging him down. To make a long story short, had Miguel not taken those knees, the chances of Miguel getting knocked the phuk out were almost inevitable. Miguel tried to put a dent in Tony but Miguel's punches were just not effecting Tony that much. Tony had that sick grin on his face in the second round after Miguel had landed some nice clean shots. Tony was able to get to Miguel's body good and plenty while Miguel's attemps to Tony's body were few and far between. After watching the fight again and again, I no longer think Miguel can beat Tony unless Tony is hurt or sick. Tony is the man right now. I am not counting Miguel out and I will follow his career until the wheels fall off
Well said mate.
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I also wish PBF would have made good on his word when he told Tony that he would get his shot. Hey Floyd! Tony and the rest of the world is still waiting! And guess what? Guess who is talk shiet about you again Floyd? Could it be Tony? You are God Damn right it is. At least Miguel had the balls to step in the ring and try unlike Floyd who went into retirement rather than to make good on his word some three years ago.
That has been talked about so many times. It's about money. We all do whatever to make more money. 8 mills compared to more than 20, what would you choose? See what I mean? Can't see Floyd ducking him or anybody. He's too good to duck someone regardless of having a style that doesn't please us.
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I guess I ain't got nothing else to say. It is what it is and it was what it was.
That's the way to go.
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Margarito seems more focused on getting Oscar in the ring now then he is getting Floyd in it.
Of course, go for the bigger paycheck.
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Majesty
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Originally Posted by
Markusdarkus
After reading that its clear Cotto is not a warrior. Not that i condemn that but you wouldnt see Hatton, Marques or Margarito give up they would have to be KTFO.
A warrior returns home beaten and bloody, shot in his 35s and can't run and play with his children but he got that respect for one fight.
A Family man may take the loss and go on and have a great career with more longevity and when he gets old be able to play with his kids, speak clearly and not have brain damage.
If I had children and you asked me what mattered more, winning a fight or being able to coherently spend time with my children, I would pick my children always.
If my sacrifice to being a warrior was my children, or the ability to spend time with them, then I'd never want to be known as a warrior.
Miguel did the right thing
He did the right thing for his Family but one wouldnt see Marciano, Ali or Frazier do anything or say anything like that. Cotto knew he was done as was on his way to getting knocked out. Again i dont condemn it but it is what it is.
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How can anyone criticize what Cotto did, it's really unbelievable. He gave it his all and provided a FOTY candidate, he was humble afterwards and gave Margarito his due. He did nothing wrong in there. I think people still want boxers to be Gladiators and die trying, me personally I'd rather see them live to fight another day.
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Markusdarkus
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Originally Posted by
Majesty
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Originally Posted by
Markusdarkus
After reading that its clear Cotto is not a warrior. Not that i condemn that but you wouldnt see Hatton, Marques or Margarito give up they would have to be KTFO.
A warrior returns home beaten and bloody, shot in his 35s and can't run and play with his children but he got that respect for one fight.
A Family man may take the loss and go on and have a great career with more longevity and when he gets old be able to play with his kids, speak clearly and not have brain damage.
If I had children and you asked me what mattered more, winning a fight or being able to coherently spend time with my children, I would pick my children always.
If my sacrifice to being a warrior was my children, or the ability to spend time with them, then I'd never want to be known as a warrior.
Miguel did the right thing
He did the right thing for his Family but one wouldnt see Marciano, Ali or Frazier do anything or say anything like that. Cotto knew he was done as was on his way to getting knocked out. Again i dont condemn it but it is what it is.
Ali has Parkinsons, I met Joe Frazier last month and the lights were on but no one was home if you know what I mean, and Marciano didnt have to face any huge punchers in his time.. So you are being a little to crirical of Miguel... I mean let some Puerto Ricans be pissed if he took 2 knees, I would tell those guys to go over to Wilfred Benitez's house and give him a few bucks if you give that much of a crap about your fighters health and well being at the end of the day
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Markus that's a complete joke and you obviously have an agenda here. I guess Tszyu, Frazier or Vazquez aren't warriors either. If I had the internet speed I would neg rep you, really what a joke of a comment that is. Cotto and Margarito both left everything in the ring and if any boxing fan isn't satisfied with that great fight then they have no business being a fight fan. Simple as that.
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I won't even criticize Gary Lockett for taking 3 knees against Pavlik for less punishments...
Taking a knee is just being smart when you cannot take the punishments anymore... You save your ass for another day...
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amat
Markus that's a complete joke and you obviously have an agenda here. I guess Tszyu, Frazier or Vazquez aren't warriors either. If I had the internet speed I would neg rep you, really what a joke of a comment that is. Cotto and Margarito both left everything in the ring and if any boxing fan isn't satisfied with that great fight then they have no business being a fight fan. Simple as that.
I did it for you Amat! ;)
What an idiot. :mad:
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You can label Cotto a "quitter" and "not a warrior" if he will do it again in another fight in the future...
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Top notch assesment Danny...Cotto is far from damaged goods.Absolute respect due Improved Cotto and I see him rebounding well after a spell! and yes,Give me Tony vs. Rue Paul Williams II for now.......call me a sadist ;D
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Hope Cotto will take any of these available top tough welter in his next fight; Clottey, Cintron or Williams...
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It still amazes me how no one is talking about the body work Margarito did, only one person mentioned it in this thread. Go to the gym, train for 1 year, get in the ring with a decent fighter and you will soon learn what a good body attack means. It saps you of everything, your strength, your speed, your reflexes, your punching power,your will to fight, they are all gone after a good and sustained body attack.
Margarito absolutely tore Cotto's body up in the early rounds. Forget the blood in the nose, it didn't have 1/10th the effect as the brutal assault to the body by Margarito. Some people will never get it. While the stupid announcers were oohing and ahhing at the head shots by Cotto, I was noting the absolute brilliant and effective assault to the body by Margarito in the first 5 rounds. It wasn't until the body work had decided the fight by the 6th or 7th round that Manny started to talk about it much at all.
Cotto took a beating, he did not have what it takes to hurt Margarito much and he couldn't protect his body at all. He was beaten before that final round. I called a couple rounds before that that he was going to have to quit. No shame in that, no shame at all. No one here, i doubt, has one clue what his body was going thru right then. He was on the verge of collapse and was thoroughly beaten and he knew it. He was no longer able to protect himself. Everyone can be made to quit if they take that beating to the body!!! Everyone!!!
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GRBOXINGFAN
It still amazes me how no one is talking about the body work Margarito did, only one person mentioned it in this thread. Go to the gym, train for 1 year, get in the ring with a decent fighter and you will soon learn what a good body attack means. It saps you of everything, your strength, your speed, your reflexes, your punching power,your will to fight, they are all gone after a good and sustained body attack.
Margarito absolutely tore Cotto's body up in the early rounds. Forget the blood in the nose, it didn't have 1/10th the effect as the brutal assault to the body by Margarito. Some people will never get it. While the stupid announcers were oohing and ahhing at the head shots by Cotto, I was noting the absolute brilliant and effective assault to the body by Margarito in the first 5 rounds. It wasn't until the body work had decided the fight by the 6th or 7th round that Manny started to talk about it much at all.
Cotto took a beating, he did not have what it takes to hurt Margarito much and he couldn't protect his body at all. He was beaten before that final round. I called a couple rounds before that that he was going to have to quit. No shame in that, no shame at all. No one here, i doubt, has one clue what his body was going thru right then. He was on the verge of collapse and was thoroughly beaten and he knew it. He was no longer able to protect himself. Everyone can be made to quit if they take that beating to the body!!! Everyone!!!
I wonder what would be of Margarito if he didn't had at least 1/4 less of that chin? I mean Cotto was landing at will.
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Originally Posted by
GRBOXINGFAN
It still amazes me how no one is talking about the body work Margarito did, only one person mentioned it in this thread. Go to the gym, train for 1 year, get in the ring with a decent fighter and you will soon learn what a good body attack means. It saps you of everything, your strength, your speed, your reflexes, your punching power,your will to fight, they are all gone after a good and sustained body attack.
Margarito absolutely tore Cotto's body up in the early rounds. Forget the blood in the nose, it didn't have 1/10th the effect as the brutal assault to the body by Margarito. Some people will never get it. While the stupid announcers were oohing and ahhing at the head shots by Cotto, I was noting the absolute brilliant and effective assault to the body by Margarito in the first 5 rounds. It wasn't until the body work had decided the fight by the 6th or 7th round that Manny started to talk about it much at all.
Cotto took a beating, he did not have what it takes to hurt Margarito much and he couldn't protect his body at all. He was beaten before that final round. I called a couple rounds before that that he was going to have to quit. No shame in that, no shame at all. No one here, i doubt, has one clue what his body was going thru right then. He was on the verge of collapse and was thoroughly beaten and he knew it. He was no longer able to protect himself. Everyone can be made to quit if they take that beating to the body!!! Everyone!!!
I did not notice how effective Tony's body attack was until I began watching the video in slow motion while working on my video. It was a great body attack and Tony landed some massive shots, despite Tony's relentless body attack, you can't leave out some of those massive upper cuts Tony was landing on the inside and to make matters worse, Tony was throwing so many punches that he was catching Miguel in the neck, shoulders, arms, body and just about anywhere legal. As you said, it looked as though Miguel was done in many rounds but he did keep trying and he hung in there as long as his body permitted. The man who onws 8 gas stations in Puerto Rico, ran out of gas and had to close down his stores ;D Tony is a gas guzzler ;D
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amat
Markus that's a complete joke and you obviously have an agenda here. I guess Tszyu, Frazier or Vazquez aren't warriors either. If I had the internet speed I would neg rep you, really what a joke of a comment that is. Cotto and Margarito both left everything in the ring and if any boxing fan isn't satisfied with that great fight then they have no business being a fight fan. Simple as that.
It an opinion you bellend!
He just stated himself he quit not because he couldnt take anymore but because he wanted to end the fight. Im just saying what he said a true warrior wouldnt do that.
And this agenda shit i like Cotto i call it how i see it or hear it ffs.
Get to fuck.
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Diane
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amat
Markus that's a complete joke and you obviously have an agenda here. I guess Tszyu, Frazier or Vazquez aren't warriors either. If I had the internet speed I would neg rep you, really what a joke of a comment that is. Cotto and Margarito both left everything in the ring and if any boxing fan isn't satisfied with that great fight then they have no business being a fight fan. Simple as that.
I did it for you Amat! ;)
What an idiot. :mad:
It is what it is he said he quit and thats what i see.
Do i hold it against him no i like Cotto. But to neg rep me for an opinion is pathetic. Its funny the two that lambast my comments have Cotto as an avatar why dont you talk about whats wrong with my comment.
Go on quote my comment and tell me whats wrong with it go on you fucking Pavlik nut.
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Danny_G
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GRBOXINGFAN
It still amazes me how no one is talking about the body work Margarito did, only one person mentioned it in this thread. Go to the gym, train for 1 year, get in the ring with a decent fighter and you will soon learn what a good body attack means. It saps you of everything, your strength, your speed, your reflexes, your punching power,your will to fight, they are all gone after a good and sustained body attack.
Margarito absolutely tore Cotto's body up in the early rounds. Forget the blood in the nose, it didn't have 1/10th the effect as the brutal assault to the body by Margarito. Some people will never get it. While the stupid announcers were oohing and ahhing at the head shots by Cotto, I was noting the absolute brilliant and effective assault to the body by Margarito in the first 5 rounds. It wasn't until the body work had decided the fight by the 6th or 7th round that Manny started to talk about it much at all.
Cotto took a beating, he did not have what it takes to hurt Margarito much and he couldn't protect his body at all. He was beaten before that final round. I called a couple rounds before that that he was going to have to quit. No shame in that, no shame at all. No one here, i doubt, has one clue what his body was going thru right then. He was on the verge of collapse and was thoroughly beaten and he knew it. He was no longer able to protect himself. Everyone can be made to quit if they take that beating to the body!!! Everyone!!!
I did not notice how effective Tony's body attack was until I began watching the video in slow motion while working on my video. It was a great body attack and Tony landed some massive shots, despite Tony's relentless body attack, you can't leave out some of those massive upper cuts Tony was landing on the inside and to make matters worse, Tony was throwing so many punches that he was catching Miguel in the neck, shoulders, arms, body and just about anywhere legal. As you said, it looked as though Miguel was done in many rounds but he did keep trying and he hung in there as long as his body permitted. The man who onws 8 gas stations in Puerto Rico, ran out of gas and had to close down his stores ;D Tony is a gas guzzler ;D
Yep Margo didn't felt the need to at least dodge 1 punch even if he was receiving a lot of them. he just throw throw throw until you get tired.
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The question could also just as easily be; Whos more stupid the ones who fight on because their ego is so big they couldnt take the talk by the punks who wanted to see a Ko. Or the ones who quit when they know the next shot will take them out and fuk what everyone else thinks cause they aren't crowd pleasers they are their own men? two ways of looking at everything.
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People who say Cotto is a Qiuter, Have never been in a Hospital waiting Hours to make sure there Fighter pulls through, they havent got a clue. This is one Hard game played by proper Men with Passion and pride Cotto is a Proper Man.
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Scrap
People who say Cotto is a Qiuter, Have never been in a Hospital waiting Hours to make sure there Fighter pulls through, they havent got a clue. This is one Hard game played by proper Men with Passion and pride Cotto is a Proper Man.
Can you read?
Cotto himself said he gave up, now look in the dictonary the word "quit" to give up.
No-one is hating him for it and he did the correct thing but just like Tszyu he **** no shame in it.
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A little bit and still learning ;D
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I wouldnt say it if Cotto said i couldnt take anymore but that was not the reason he gave for taking those knees.
Cotto said he could continue so how else would you see it?
AGAIN he did the right thing but i am quoting what he said word for word.
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When He told it He had a clear Head. When He took it He didnt
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Scrap
When He told it He had a clear Head. When He took it He didnt
Im not knocking Cotto in any way but he said it himself id rather believe him and not people on a forum.
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Markus dont even start playing with symantics now... Yor post had a denigrating overtone toward Cotto.. I mean you wanna pick apart the word warrior and we can trace it back to an old school soldier, and I'll tell you some of the bravest soldiers had to retreat and regroup from certain battles... So that all of a sudden didt make them a warrior because they lived to fight another day:confused:
I gotta do some neg repping to here, because there is nothing worse than a word minceing creep:mad:
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No Contest
I never condemn anyone who quits on their stool or takes a knee, only they know whats really going on with their bodies. I would rather someone quit and get out with their health than see another McLellan incident, or more recently Oscar Diaz.
Amen to that. Especially how Cotto did it, he held in there for 11 rounds and I guess he knew that he had nothing left and with the knockdowns he wasn't going to win a decision, so why take more of a potential career-threatening beating?
I like how he is humble about his defeat and isn't making excuses.
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Markusdarkus
Go on quote my comment and tell me whats wrong with it go on you fuking Pavlik nut.
Here I'm quoting you.... ;)
First, is that anyway to to talk to a lady. :o
Second, what does Pavlik have to do with this? :dontknow:
I'll gladly get into why you are being ridiculous, but I'll have to wait until I get home from work tonight when I have more time.
But, before I do that, I just want to know, you keep saying that you are not trying to knock Cotto, yet in 2 different threads you were spouting this nonsense, and when no one wanted to hear that crap, you felt the need to start a 3rd thread so that you can continue to pound this crap into our heads. So if you're not trying to knock Cotto, why do you have to keep posting this crap in so many different threads, when no one agrees with you?
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He just said that he would not have to take unnecessary punches , if you been on his shoes did you would take a tragic KO knowing that you cant give anymore ?
I think that is what the most No Cotto fans wanted , see him dieing in the line , but we have to consider that he took the right decision , i dont think that knowing the kind of boxer that he is , we have to " Find the Meaning of Quitter " , we know that he is a Warrior , he couldn't , thats all , somebody had to Yield and that was Cotto , that was Margaros Night and he prepared for that ...........
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Cotto choose to take those knees so it is what it is.
Anything wrong with it no! but he did choose to take those knees.
Im saying there is nothing wrong with him taking a knee nothing at all but he did choose to take them for what ever reason.
And i doubt Cotto could really get hurt in the ring he doesnt take a shot well enough to take a good 12rd beating although he was busted up pretty bad againsr Marg.
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I was Ringside for Ben v McClellan. When Gerald took a Knee in the Nineth, my first thoughts were the cunts Bottled it. After I felt terrible realising what my first impressions were, dont even go there Pal.
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Markusdarkus
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Scrap
When He told it He had a clear Head. When He took it He didnt
Im not knocking Cotto in any way but he said it himself id rather believe him and not people on a forum.
Its a word to explain what happened he ceased action on a deep feeling before it took a real toll on him ,so what?. QUIT is a word you need to learn quit telling it over and over. Big deal, we all still resepect him and all other warriors/fighters who chooce to fight another day.
Seriously the only point to the conversation is to attempt the egoic mental stand of making someone else appear wrong about something so your brain feels right. That is the product of a deeper false belife system, which I wont bore you with here on the front page.
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Re: Cotto on is first loss
I get pissed off when accusations of being a Quitter are thrown around, Cotto is not a quitter, he will live to fight another day and as he said Margarito was better on the night. Was Joe Frazier a Quitter when he couldn't come out for the 15th round in the 'Thriller in Manilla' ? No he wasn't, the guy can hardly string two words together now.
Tszyu was heavily criticized for quitting on the stool against Hatton, yet it was his corner who stopped it not the fighter. Had the fight continued he would have been in serious trouble.
These guys go into battle every fight they have and sometimes things don't always work out the way they want them too. Cotto is a brave, courageous warrior who just lost a fight and that's all he did, if he is a true champion he will comeback bigger, better and stronger than before and who knows he may fight Margarito and whip his ass next time.
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Re: Cotto on is first loss
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Originally Posted by
SaddoBoxer
You can label Cotto a "quitter" and "not a warrior" if he will do it again in another fight in the future...
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ok... I see you're singing the same tune in various threads...
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Re: Cotto on is first loss
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Originally Posted by
TitoFan
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Originally Posted by
SaddoBoxer
You can label Cotto a "quitter" and "not a warrior" if he will do it again in another fight in the future...
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ok... I see you're singing the same tune in various threads...
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Because the subject is the same. Why not merge all these threads about Cotto losing/quitting into one single thread?