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Pacquiao on Soto: "It's personal."
After the news regarding the possible hoya-pac fight was being cancelled spreaded like wildfire all over the country, a local tv station here at the philippines interviewed pac while sponsoring his golf charity event. They asked about why the fight was being cancelled.
"We would'nt agree at the 70-30 share which hoya was suggesting because it looks like we're being outwittted on the share. It's just too little for us. It's really unjustifiable on our part." -pac
"So who are you looking at as your possible next opponent if this fight is really not going through?"-news reporter
"We are looking at 2 possible opponents. It's going to be either edwin valero or humberto soto. But more likely it's going to be soto since valero has not much drawing power in the u.s."-pac
"What can you tell us about this humberto soto?"-news reporter
"Well i can promise you that it's going to be a good fight since soto is a very skillful fighter, he's no puny i can tell you that. One thing is for sure, it's going to be personal on my part. If i beat him at least i have avenged my brother's loss to him." (bobby pac lost to soto via 7th rnd ko on a very lopsided match.)-pac
Well if hoya-pac doe'snt push through we will at least get a very intriguing and entertaing fight at this possible soto-pac encounter come this november. Like what pac said it's going to be personal. So for pac it's going to be "payback time!"
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PACMAN will chop down Soto.
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Didnt Pac say it was 'personal' with DLH also? This seems like his new favourite line.
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I don't see Pacquiao-Soto as a big fight or even a fight where Pac can loose.
I think Pac will beat Soto very convincingly and one sided, I don't see Soto as a fighter who poses any type of threat to Pac.
Matter a fact if Pac gets going I actually think he can stop Soto.
But Pac has to be on, he can't have a Solis moment here where he slack off.
Not to mention Soto would be moving up in weight to fight Pac.
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Haha personal because he beat Bobby, Manny couldn't fight long enough to avenge every ass whooping his brother has taken. It's funny they even have the same genes.
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Manny Pacquiao will be facing Mexico's "Little Margarito"...
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eagle
Didnt Pac say it was 'personal' with DLH also? This seems like his new favourite line.
De La Hoya was the first one to claim the fight as "personal." Then Pac said it back probably becuase he lacks the knowledge of insults in english.
I can see him actually saying it and meaning it against Soto. After Soto knocked Bobby out, Manny was interviewed and said something along the lines of "he knocked out my brother, let's see if he can knock me out too."
I think a Pacquiao vs Soto match would be much better than people think. It would be an all out slugfest unless Pac decides to make the way he fought Diaz his new style.
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CutMeMick
I don't see Pacquiao-Soto as a big fight or even a fight where Pac can loose.
I think Pac will beat Soto very convincingly and one sided, I don't see Soto as a fighter who poses any type of threat to Pac.
Matter a fact if Pac gets going I actually think he can stop Soto.
But Pac has to be on, he can't have a Solis moment here where he slack off.
Not to mention Soto would be moving up in weight to fight Pac.
Imo soto for me still poses a threat to pac. He is not on the same caliber as solis is. I think soto can be regarded as a class-a fighter. That loss of soto to guz, though a wide ud, did not in anyway, put his credibility down for me. Soto is a punch-mixer who likes to give many variations of punches to the head and body. He also is very innovative sometimes, especially facing a not too special fighter.( i can recall he did a double lead right uppercut one time.) And no i would not say soto is like margarito in any terms. Soto is more technically sound than margarito i dare say, though margarito is a greater fighter in many aspects such as heart, durability,accuracy,fightplan and power. He also has a very orthodox stance while margarito comes forward to his foe on a more "fronting up" stance.
Anyways i can still see pac get through with a win on this one. Possibly a late round stoppage.
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Soto's workrate has to be there and yes,he has to mix up attack and maintain it.I see him having to come forward attacking and Pac will be much faster and accurate when he is moving,Pac should hit that body big!Against a top notch mobile Guzman ,Soto looked at times to be baffled and was out thought and punched.By no means do I count this a certainy for Manny,Soto is very live and not a roll over but Pac can exploit many things and has more options,he should box smart.On the other hand,If Manny has too many Macho moments and sits down with Soto....its there for the taking ;D
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Spicoli surfs 'Nawlins
Soto's workrate has to be there and yes,he has to mix up attack and maintain it.I see him having to come forward attacking and Pac will be much faster and accurate when he is moving,Pac should hit that body big!Against a top notch mobile Guzman ,Soto looked at times to be baffled and was out thought and punched.By no means do I count this a certainy for Manny,Soto is very live and not a roll over but Pac can exploit many things and has more options,he should box smart.On the other hand,If Manny has too many Macho moments and sits down with Soto....its there for the taking ;D
Yes, not to mention bobby pac, a d-class fighter, staggered soto once on their fight. I can't imagine if that was the pacman. But nevertheless i would say that soto is no pushover.
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Panadzzz
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CutMeMick
I don't see Pacquiao-Soto as a big fight or even a fight where Pac can loose.
I think Pac will beat Soto very convincingly and one sided, I don't see Soto as a fighter who poses any type of threat to Pac.
Matter a fact if Pac gets going I actually think he can stop Soto.
But Pac has to be on, he can't have a Solis moment here where he slack off.
Not to mention Soto would be moving up in weight to fight Pac.
Imo soto for me still poses a threat to pac. He is not on the same caliber as solis is. I think soto can be regarded as a class-a fighter. That loss of soto to guz, though a wide ud, did not in anyway, put his credibility down for me. Soto is a punch-mixer who likes to give many variations of punches to the head and body. He also is very innovative sometimes, especially facing a not too special fighter.( i can recall he did a double lead right uppercut one time.) And no i would not say soto is like margarito in any terms. Soto is more technically sound than margarito i dare say, though margarito is a greater fighter in many aspects such as heart, durability,accuracy,fightplan and power. He also has a very orthodox stance while margarito comes forward to his foe on a more "fronting up" stance.
Anyways i can still see pac get through with a win on this one. Possibly a late round stoppage.
I think you missunderstood me by no means was I comparing Solis to Soto.
I said I hope Pac doesn't have a Solis moment here. Meaning Pac will try and cruise by and will not look good. That's what I meant by my comment.
Also unfortunately Pac is that much more of a fighter then Soto. Soto wont back down and that will be his dismay, Pacs got the power over him and if Soto decides to trade he's done.
I COMPLETELY and 100% disagree that Soto is an A-Class figther.
Sotos unfortunately not fought enough top level opposition to be considered A-Class caliber. At best I can say he's a B-Class fighter because he's fought Kelly (which was yrs. ago) and I had Kelly up by 2 points. I thought he won the Juarez fight by a point. The Guzman fight was all Guzman and tho Soto never gave up it's still a loss.
Sotos def. a live opponent and I think he will give it his all but aside from the Juarez win nothing there leads me to believe he can beat Pac.
I'll say the same thing I said before, Pac would have to fight a really bad fight to loose here. He's just much more superior then Soto.
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SaddoBoxer
Manny Pacquiao will be facing Mexico's "Little Margarito"...
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Who the hell names Soto "Little Margarito"?
That's pretty stupid there is no way Sotos the Little Margarito.
Who ever did that needs to watch more of "La Zorrita" cause he is not Margarito.
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Originally Posted by
CutMeMick
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Originally Posted by
SaddoBoxer
Manny Pacquiao will be facing Mexico's "Little Margarito"...
:-X
Who the hell names Soto "Little Margarito"?
That's pretty stupid there is no way Sotos the Little Margarito.
Who ever did that needs to watch more of "La Zorrita" cause he is not Margarito.
Anyway this is the question that's been bugging me about soto. Do you know what "la zorrita" mean? Is it little zorro?
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CutMeMick
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Panadzzz
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CutMeMick
I don't see Pacquiao-Soto as a big fight or even a fight where Pac can loose.
I think Pac will beat Soto very convincingly and one sided, I don't see Soto as a fighter who poses any type of threat to Pac.
Matter a fact if Pac gets going I actually think he can stop Soto.
But Pac has to be on, he can't have a Solis moment here where he slack off.
Not to mention Soto would be moving up in weight to fight Pac.
Imo soto for me still poses a threat to pac. He is not on the same caliber as solis is. I think soto can be regarded as a class-a fighter. That loss of soto to guz, though a wide ud, did not in anyway, put his credibility down for me. Soto is a punch-mixer who likes to give many variations of punches to the head and body. He also is very innovative sometimes, especially facing a not too special fighter.( i can recall he did a double lead right uppercut one time.) And no i would not say soto is like margarito in any terms. Soto is more technically sound than margarito i dare say, though margarito is a greater fighter in many aspects such as heart, durability,accuracy,fightplan and power. He also has a very orthodox stance while margarito comes forward to his foe on a more "fronting up" stance.
Anyways i can still see pac get through with a win on this one. Possibly a late round stoppage.
I think you missunderstood me by no means was I comparing Solis to Soto.
I said I hope Pac doesn't have a Solis moment here. Meaning Pac will try and cruise by and will not look good. That's what I meant by my comment.
Also unfortunately Pac is that much more of a fighter then Soto. Soto wont back down and that will be his dismay, Pacs got the power over him and if Soto decides to trade he's done.
I COMPLETELY and 100% disagree that Soto is an A-Class figther.
Sotos unfortunately not fought enough top level opposition to be considered A-Class caliber. At best I can say he's a B-Class fighter because he's fought Kelly (which was yrs. ago) and I had Kelly up by 2 points. I thought he won the Juarez fight by a point. The Guzman fight was all Guzman and tho Soto never gave up it's still a loss.
Sotos def. a live opponent and I think he will give it his all but aside from the Juarez win nothing there leads me to believe he can beat Pac.
I'll say the same thing I said before, Pac would have to fight a really bad fight to loose here. He's just much more superior then Soto.
Ok i stand corrected. For now on for me, soto is a b-class fighter. Thnx i think i need a little "head check" when i said he is an a-class fighter.
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In a moment of full clarity....I asked if any one saw similarities between Soto And Margarito some time ago ? And yes.....I see a couple but would not rate him a capable doppleganger Of Tony Lol.He is aggressive and Frontal,has a varied arsenal and some nice range.....thats pretty much it though Imo.Level of comp defiantly in different leagues.:-X
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Spicoli surfs 'Nawlins
In a moment of full clarity....I asked if any one saw similarities between Soto And Margarito some time ago ? And yes.....I see a couple but would not rate him a capable doppleganger Of Tony Lol.He is aggressive and Frontal,has a varied arsenal and some nice range.....thats pretty much it though Imo.Level of comp defiantly in different leagues.:-X
Both of them, has very nice uppercuts. Though on the power department, tony dominates easily.
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soto is a good fighter. but pac is a great one.
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Panadzzz
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Spicoli surfs 'Nawlins
In a moment of full clarity....I asked if any one saw similarities between Soto And Margarito some time ago ? And yes.....I see a couple but would not rate him a capable doppleganger Of Tony Lol.He is aggressive and Frontal,has a varied arsenal and some nice range.....thats pretty much it though Imo.Level of comp defiantly in different leagues.:-X
Both of them, has very nice uppercuts. Though on the power department, tony dominates easily.
The stamina/endurance increase late,level of adversity experienced and ability to impose ones natural strengths separate Soto/Margarito as well.I think over all Pac can Decide how this one will go but Soto will be after him and not a walk in the park.
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Panadzzz
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CutMeMick
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SaddoBoxer
Manny Pacquiao will be facing Mexico's "Little Margarito"...
:-X
Who the hell names Soto "Little Margarito"?
That's pretty stupid there is no way Sotos the Little Margarito.
Who ever did that needs to watch more of "La Zorrita" cause he is not Margarito.
Anyway this is the question that's been bugging me about soto. Do you know what "la zorrita" mean? Is it little zorro?
Well not really.
It's kinda hard to explain. In spanish some words are defined as male/female in the last letter.
"O" is for male and "A" is for female.
In english fox is used for both in spanish Zorro is male Zorra is female.
It's hard to explain....
I think in this case it would be necessary to ask him how the nickname came about. ???
For the most part peoples whos nicknames are Zorrita it has to do with them at one point or another having long hair. In a Fox Tail-like form I'm not sure if this is the case here.
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CutMeMick
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Originally Posted by
Panadzzz
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Originally Posted by
CutMeMick
:-X
Who the hell names Soto "Little Margarito"?
That's pretty stupid there is no way Sotos the Little Margarito.
Who ever did that needs to watch more of "La Zorrita" cause he is not Margarito.
Anyway this is the question that's been bugging me about soto. Do you know what "la zorrita" mean? Is it little zorro?
Well not really.
It's kinda hard to explain. In spanish some words are defined as male/female in the last letter.
"O" is for male and "A" is for female.
In english fox is used for both in spanish Zorro is male Zorra is female.
It's hard to explain....
I think in this case it would be necessary to ask him how the nickname came about. ???
For the most part peoples whos nicknames are Zorrita it has to do with them at one point or another having long hair. In a Fox Tail-like form I'm not sure if this is the case here.
So zorro is fox in spanish? Wow. I thought it's just the name of the mexican superhero.
Well i think based on your evplanation,it's more on being as "cunning like a fox" i guess.
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Can only see the Pacman winnig this
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Soto is no mini Margarito. Bobby Pac had him hurt and he isnt a puncher . I duno why Pac is facing Soto. who lost to Guzman then originally got dqd in his last fight . why not face a guy on a winning streak for a change ?
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Soto is no mini Margarito. Bobby Pac had him hurt and he isnt a puncher . I duno why Pac is facing Soto. who lost to Guzman then originally got dqd in his last fight . why not face a guy on a winning streak for a change ?
I'll give you Soto losing to Guzman but everyone knows his last fight was no DQ. Just another clusterf*ck by Cortez!
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GAME
Soto is no mini Margarito. Bobby Pac had him hurt and he isnt a puncher . I duno why Pac is facing Soto. who lost to Guzman then originally got dqd in his last fight . why not face a guy on a winning streak for a change ?
I'll give you Soto losing to Guzman but everyone knows his last fight was no DQ. Just another clusterf*ck by Cortez!
Oh yeah no doubt . Cortez messed up royally!
He took 10 minutes and asked people ringside b4 making his decision . Surely thats enough for the commission to see that he should never ref again .
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GAME
Soto is no mini Margarito. Bobby Pac had him hurt and he isnt a puncher . I duno why Pac is facing Soto. who lost to Guzman then originally got dqd in his last fight . why not face a guy on a winning streak for a change ?
Soto is a puncher, a strong one. Just because he was beaten by a faster slick boxer like Guzman does not make him less dangerous, think about Margarito losing to Williams.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QE9mca4izGg
courtesy of Nimex of Youtube.
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Although Pac's handspeed and overall game wins this handily, what other Lightweight is available to Pac? Campbell facing Guzman, Diaz facing Kats, Casamayor facing JMM. Soto is the best option and even though Pac wins this by a landslide, the styles of the two fighters will make for an exciting fight.
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CutMeMick
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Originally Posted by
SaddoBoxer
Manny Pacquiao will be facing Mexico's "Little Margarito"...
:-X
Who the hell names Soto "Little Margarito"?
That's pretty stupid there is no way Sotos the Little Margarito.
Who ever did that needs to watch more of "La Zorrita" cause he is not Margarito.
I've read it from several boxing websites and forums. I think people saw some similarities between Soto and Margarito. Hugo Cazares also sometimes referred to as a mini-Margarito...
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