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I only mean trainers that have train guys at the top level or who are in the public eye.
I will start the ball rolling with Pepe Corea who used to train Lennox Lewis but made his name as SRL trainer at the end of his carrer.
He told Lewis at the end of round 1 of his fight with McCall "knock this bum out" then Lewis left himself open and got KOed.:-X
Thats a great call, Talks a lot and says nothing. ;D
I'm not saying he's a bad trainer but some of Teddy Atlas' corner tactics are questionable!
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I thought he done well in the corner the night Moorer won the hw title(if that is what you are refering to),he brought the best out of his fighter.thats what being a good trainer is all about.
Agreed with Porky, Pepe was the worst, he use to stand in the middle of the ring as if he was going to fight Oliver McCall, arrogant twit. It was a blessing that Lewis got KO ed. Maybe Pepe knew what he was doing all along.:-\
Gotta be Hi-Tech,Gola or Dunlop Greenflash
I don't know if the following two would necessarily qualify as Worst Trainers
but just maybe,.. they fall under the category of 'Cursed Trainers. :-\
Buddy Mc'Dirt and Eman Stewy. Man these two cats are just salty ;D
I like both of these trainers but there is just something wrong, it's as though the fighters they are handling just don't listen to them.
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I thought Buddy did well with Gatti to make him use his boxing a bit more as for Steward he seems to have gone off the boil a bit.Well his fighters have anyway.
Ive never seen corner work worse than Billy Grahams the guy was affraid to yell or even reaise his voice against Hatton.
Got Hatton in shape but tactically totally inept and Graham is one of the reason for the Hatton hug when he should have sat him down and said your not fighting Tszyu every night son.
Cant remember there names of the top of my head but Tysons corner men against Douglas were the worse I have ever watched amater or pro.
Using a condom full of ice on his swolen eye.LOL
Geez man why'd you bring me into thisQuote:
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I will raise you a pair of Skechers mate!Quote:
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Aaron Snowell and Jay Bright.
Tyson:
"I was fucking those Japenesse bitches like it was eating grapes"
They were a disgrace letting him come in a 4am drunk and letting him take 15mins off training so he could sleep with girls that were brought in.
Got to agree there. I like Buddy and E-man though. I think Buddy just had a bad run in with his fighter's.If you de recall he did rebuild Gatti when we all thought he was done.He made the plan to knock Roy Jones out with Tarver,but of the last few years he has picked the wrong fighters to train. I would say Panama Lewis induced Pryor with something to jolt his energy then stripped padding from another fighter's gloves.Quote:
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Aaron Snowell and Jay Bright.
Tyson:
"I was fucking those Japenesse bitches like it was eating grapes"
They were a disgrace letting him come in a 4am drunk and letting him take 15mins off training so he could sleep with girls that were brought in.
IN Snowell's defense, in the Tyson vs Douglas book,he said that from the very beginning of that training camp Tyson would not listen to him. Tyson would not do road work, and if Snowell became too demanding Tyson would lock himself in his hotel room.Quote:
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Aaron Snowell and Jay Bright.
Tyson:
"I was fucking those Japenesse bitches like it was eating grapes"
They were a disgrace letting him come in a 4am drunk and letting him take 15mins off training so he could sleep with girls that were brought in.
For worst trainer- hands down, Buddy McGirt. McGirt has has the ability to train any fighter to lose a fight.
I like that 1 bet Lewis thanked him for that advice.Quote:
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Hi-Tec.
Do they still make Hi-Tec?
Hopefully not. I also hope British Knights, Troop, Inter Sports(Hi Tec Copies) Dragon Beard, Bathing Ape and K Swiss have stopped or will no longer make trainers.Quote:
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I watched for a while old Pepe undoing all the good work John Davenport had done. It was cringeworthy. SPX made the Best Trainers ever one off my Lads was Sponsored by them, My feet have never been so comfortable, not paying was a Bonus. ;D
Yoel Judah, always tells Zab he's doing better than he actually is. That scumbag Panama Lewis.
Can't name one on top of my head but I think the worse trainers are those who just pump up a fighter in the corner without saying a single word of advise "Yeah champ! Uungh! Ya' know what I am saying?! Hell yeah! Unghh! Go get him boy!" acting like a gangsta' rapper. If I was winning I would still want to hear what I have to keep doing to get a victory and not just a guy pumping me up.
AARON SNOWELL....see any Tyson fight of the post Rooney-pre prison era.
No head movement, no combinations, no desire to be in the ring at all.....and all this time Snowell using a condom filled with water to stop swelling
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Hi Tec are the trainer of choise for many of the British Fire Brigades today.
Also used to be issued in the army but I dont know if they still do.
I thought Atlas said the right things, but watching the fight in full, Moorer didn't really listen. In the rounds following his speeches, Moorer slept-walked again. I think Moorer was extra cautious because of the 2nd round KD, and knew how dangerous Holyfield could be when you hurt him.Quote:
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I thought he done well in the corner the night Moorer won the hw title(if that is what you are refering to),he brought the best out of his fighter.thats what being a good trainer is all about.
Atlas is ridiculously overrated as a trainer. His track record isn't impressive. He gets this reputation as a great motivator, but I haven't seen it from his fighters. Moorer still slept-walked after Atlas begged him to fight harder.
Watching Moorer with Steward earlier, against Cooper, you saw him fight with heart and passion. Later on, in the Holyfield rematch, with Roach in the corner, Moorer fought his heart out. I didn't see this passion with Atlas.
Shannon Briggs basically fell apart with Atlas in the corner when he fought Darroll Wilson. It was with another trainer, when Briggs showed a ton of heart and desire when he lost to Lennox Lewis.
Aaron Snowell did a terrible job in Tokyo, but afterwards, he became a solid trainer. He trained Frankie Randall to his win over J.C. Chavez. He trained Julian Jackson to some title wins. He trained Tim Austin and had good success there.
Among former Mike Tyson trainers, it seems that Snowell gets the worst rap, while people always talk about how Tyson should've gotten back with Kevin Rooney (I agree, but it wasn't that Rooney was that good, it was just good chemistry), and Atlas gets too much credit for his one shining moment (which is overdramatized anyway).
Snowell has had the best success out of the 3, as he's done well with numerous fighters.
As to the subject, Oscar Suarez is pretty crappy.
Snowell was crap right from the start, there's no reason Tyson should have fought that piss poor vs Bruno....that's when Tyson got the crap rocked out of him for the first time as a pro
Panama Lewis
Buddy McGirt definitely. Freddie Roach would be if it wasn' t for Pacquiao. What other fighter he trained has won lately
ummmm Israel Vazquez won pretty big
I forgot about Vazquez. My bad
Brian Viloria has done well.Quote:
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Gerry Penalosa has done fine.
Israel is wildcard trained.
DEFINENTLY Panama is one of many negative stigmas in pro boxing's history.Quote:
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