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One of the most under-rated fighters in history.
Mike McCallum is one of those fighters that don't start getting there respect until there retired all those fights you just put up show Mike McCallums greatness in different ways........Quote:
Originally Posted by Markusdarkus
The Julian Jackson fight showed he could take an amazing shot and you also witnessed his body punching barrage which made him famous........
The Michael Watson fight showed he could travel and still dominate a good opponent like Michael Watson he just made Michael Watson look stupid and remember Michael Watson was just coming off beating Nigel Benn.........
And the Donald Curry fight showed he had one punch KO power and he could comeback from losing as i remember it Donald Curry was outboxing Mike McCallum but Mike McCallum showed his greatness by coming back and finishing in style.......
Mike McCallum was truly and great craftsman with an awesome body attack and great chin.
He was a great fighter. The reason he did not get the attention he deserved at the time is because he spent much of it surrounded by huge names underneath him and above him in weight classes. He eventually moved up and got some good fights when he got older, and still made a great account of himself even when past his prime.Quote:
Originally Posted by ssssMike McCallum is one of those fighters that don't start getting there respect until there retired all those fights you just put up show Mike McCallums greatness in different ways........Quote:
Originally Posted by Markusdarkus
The Julian Jackson fight showed he could take an amazing shot and you also witnessed his body punching barrage which made him famous........
The Michael Watson fight showed he could travel and still dominate a good opponent like Michael Watson he just made Michael Watson look stupid and remember Michael Watson was just coming off beating Nigel Benn.........
And the Donald Curry fight showed he had one punch KO power and he could comeback from losing as i remember it Donald Curry was outboxing Mike McCallum but Mike McCallum showed his greatness by coming back and finishing in style.......
Mike McCallum was truly and great craftsman with an awesome body attack and great chin.
He was a world traveler also. He fought everywhere.
US - Multiple Times
Italy - multiple times
UK - multiple times
France - Multiple times
Germany
Monaco
Jamaica
(list from my Boxrec banditry. I knew he fought everywhere, but not that often.)
McCallum vs Hagler around 85-86 would have been a war!
Great interview from Mike on Setanta if someone knows how to load it on here.
McCallum was such an underrated fighter. I don't think he ever really got his just due.
Steve Collins said Mike was the best he fought and he shared the ring with some greats . Bomber Graham pushed him close but he had teh style to give anyone fits
Joe Calzaghe told setantasports.com that Herol Graham would have given him a harder fight than a peak Chris Eubank, Nigel Benn, Michael Watson or Steve Collins, though is in no doubt that he would beaten them all.
The question is often pondered by boxing fans how Calzaghe would have got on against the prominent British and Irish middleweights/super middleweights in the era before he became world champion in 1997.
After Collins retired rather than face him, Calzaghe first won the vacant WBO super middleweight title when he beat Eubank on points.
Calzaghe bristles at the suggestion that Eubank would have given him a harder fight if he had fought him years earlier - suggesting the fact that the Brighton boxer was motivated against him made him more dangerous than during his own lengthy WBO super middleweight title reign.
"I honestly think I faced a lot more dangerous a Chris Eubank, than the Eubank who fought Dan Sherry or [Ray] Close," Calzaghe told setantasports.com.
"Why? Because Eubank wasn't motivated. Eubank was dangerous when he fought Watson and dangerous when he fought Benn.
"When he was the underdog when his back was against the wall he was a different animal.
"When I fought him that time, people talk about him having problems making super middleweight but I've lost 14 pounds in a week to make the weight.
"We've all done that. He was a dangerous fighter, he gave me one hell of a fight, but people didn't give me the credit, they gave him the credit for coming back.
"That was my first 12 round fight. I'd done eight rounds twice and knocked everyone else out inside three, so on that aspect I don't think much would have been different if I'd fought Eubank [at his peak].
"Don't forget I'm a lot better fighter now when I fought Eubank."
As for Benn and Collins, the Pride of Wales believes neither would have been able to deal with the speed coming at them from a southpaw stance.
"If I fought Benn, obviously he was a dangerous puncher but I think he'd have had a nightmare with my style," Calzaghe said. "The same with Collins."
"It would have been a difficult fight, but I'd have beat him. I'd have beat them all."
'Bomber' Graham lost a WBA middleweight world title tilt on a majority decision to the legendary Mike McCallum in 1989, then 18 months later when fighting for the WBC belt was stopped by the mother of all sucker punches by Julian Jackson. Then at the age of 38, against Charles Brewer when challenging for the IBF super middleweight crown in 1998 after having the American on the floor twice he was stopped in the tenth round.
Four years later Brewer would give Calzaghe a tough night and the Welshman admits that at his peak Graham would have been one of his toughest fights, but believes his winning mentality would have ensured he finished victorious.
"Herol Graham was awkward," Calzaghe admitted. "He'd probably have been the most awkward of all of them.
"At the end of the day, when push came to shove he lost and that's the difference between a great champion, to have your back against the wall and find a way to win.
"Maybe I'd have had a difficult time but I would have found a way to win."
Little Story about Mike in the gym. When He Boxed Watson He used our Gym, brought His own Sparring Partner over with Him who was a good Fighter in his own right. Each day they Sparred, but is was not Heavy, they just worked. Now there was a coach with His Fighter who watched every day, and the fighter Fancied it. They asked Eddie for a move around and He said yes. As they were gloving up I heard the coach say, This Son is a chance to make a name for yourself, OH OH. The Kid was a Light Heavy and would become a British Champ Himself. He started like He wanted to Kill Mike, a minute into the round Mike went up 3 gears and for 2 mins gave the Biggest Shellacking to the Kid Ive ever seen it was on a Thursday and after the Kid thought it was Monday, Eddie said to me What was He on. My reply I somehow dont think He will try that again soon. ;D
What about Joe Galzaghe v Mike McCallum, prime for prime?
Old Mike still has some serious beef that he never made any massive money fighting the fab 4.
Also, does he look really stoned or is that just me. He is Jamaican mon...:rasta:
That'd be Light Mid vs. Super Middle wouldn't it?Quote:
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P4P?Quote:
Originally Posted by hitmandonnyThat'd be Light Mid vs. Super Middle wouldn't it?Quote:
Originally Posted by Master
McCallum-Jackson was awesome.
In that case McCallum.Quote:
Originally Posted by MasterP4P?Quote:
Originally Posted by hitmandonnyThat'd be Light Mid vs. Super Middle wouldn't it?Quote:
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He had big power and skills.
Not really sure when Joe's prime was?
If you could somehow make a boxing league and have Benn, Eubank, Watson, Collins, Calzaghe and McCallum in their primes against each other at a fair catch weight I think that Mike would be the only one to beat every other fighter. I think one of the others at least would beat Calzaghe in their primes, probably Collins and Eubank and maybe even Watson too although I do think he'd easily beat Benn but McCallum would beat all 5 of the others IMO.
I think you're right.Quote:
Originally Posted by rjj tszyu
McCallum destroyed Jackson who hit harder than Nigel although perhaps wasn't intense.
Collins wasn't a very good fighter, decent at best.
Eubank was tricky, but Mike had a great fast jab.
Watson....well you know.
Calzaghe.....there are question marks.
Pound for pound I think Mike betters him, but with Joe being bigger.........
True but I think Mike added weight better than Calzaghe did in his last fight. He still gave a decent account of himself against 2 great fighters in RJJ and Toney at LHW as an old man!Quote:
Originally Posted by hitmandonnyI think you're right.Quote:
Originally Posted by rjj tszyu
McCallum destroyed Jackson who hit harder than Nigel although perhaps wasn't intense.
Collins wasn't a very good fighter, decent at best.
Eubank was tricky, but Mike had a great fast jab.
Watson....well you know.
Calzaghe.....there are question marks.
Pound for pound I think Mike betters him, but with Joe being bigger.........
That is true, but he was a shadow of himself.Quote:
Originally Posted by rjj tszyuTrue but I think Mike added weight better than Calzaghe did in his last fight. He still gave a decent account of himself against 2 great fighters in RJJ and Toney at LHW as an old man!Quote:
Originally Posted by hitmandonnyI think you're right.Quote:
Originally Posted by rjj tszyu
McCallum destroyed Jackson who hit harder than Nigel although perhaps wasn't intense.
Collins wasn't a very good fighter, decent at best.
Eubank was tricky, but Mike had a great fast jab.
Watson....well you know.
Calzaghe.....there are question marks.
Pound for pound I think Mike betters him, but with Joe being bigger.........
Mike at Light Middle, what a force!
Oh without doubt! Kind of reminds me of Winky Wright. Not stylewise but story wise, it took Winky a long time and a lot of countries to get the recognition he deserved and also the fights he deserved. That is actually a fight I'd like to see also Winky v McCallum prime v prime. A defensive master in Winky against a super skilled punishing body puncher like McCallum!Quote:
Originally Posted by hitmandonnyThat is true, but he was a shadow of himself.Quote:
Originally Posted by rjj tszyuTrue but I think Mike added weight better than Calzaghe did in his last fight. He still gave a decent account of himself against 2 great fighters in RJJ and Toney at LHW as an old man!Quote:
Originally Posted by hitmandonny
Mike at Light Middle, what a force!
Thats a very good thought.Quote:
Originally Posted by rjj tszyuOh without doubt! Kind of reminds me of Winky Wright. Not stylewise but story wise, it took Winky a long time and a lot of countries to get the recognition he deserved and also the fights he deserved. That is actually a fight I'd like to see also Winky v McCallum prime v prime. A defensive master in Winky against a super skilled punishing body puncher like McCallum!Quote:
Originally Posted by hitmandonnyThat is true, but he was a shadow of himself.Quote:
Originally Posted by rjj tszyu
Mike at Light Middle, what a force!
It had never occured to me, but there's truth in it.
Winky Wright reminds me more of Marlon Staring.Quote:
Originally Posted by rjj tszyuOh without doubt! Kind of reminds me of Winky Wright. Not stylewise but story wise, it took Winky a long time and a lot of countries to get the recognition he deserved and also the fights he deserved. That is actually a fight I'd like to see also Winky v McCallum prime v prime. A defensive master in Winky against a super skilled punishing body puncher like McCallum!Quote:
Originally Posted by hitmandonnyThat is true, but he was a shadow of himself.Quote:
Originally Posted by rjj tszyu
Mike at Light Middle, what a force!
i went to mccallum vs graham close fight i thought it could of gone either way,also went to mccallum vs watson,i really liked to watch watson but that night mccallum looked out of this world it was like man against boy
Mike McCallum vs Herol Graham was an ugly fight, that was too awkward to score IMO.Quote:
Originally Posted by cpss
Herol won that fight IMO but the point deduction for turning the opponent WTF:confused: cost him the title. Mike said that was one of his hardest fights. Remember that fight as it had no commentary as there was a strike. They should do that more often. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by ICBMike McCallum vs Herol Graham was an ugly fight, that was too awkward to score IMO.Quote:
Originally Posted by cpss