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Just watching some Mayweather Gifs and I must say Margarito NEVER beats him!
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The one where he was against the ropes vs NDou was the most impressive
What I will say though is its one thing doing it to a washed up De La Hoya and Baldimor and quite another doing it to a prime punching machine like Margarito .
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Re: Just watching some Mayweather Gifs and I must say Margarito NEVER beats him!
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GAME
The one where he was against the ropes vs NDou was the most impressive
What I will say though is its one thing doing it to a washed up De La Hoya and Baldimor and quite another doing it to a prime punching machine like Margarito .
Very true but I think the Delahoya that fought Floyd that night was as good as Margarito! He threw tons of punches but is faster and arguably hit's harder than Tony.
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piye
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GAME
The one where he was against the ropes vs NDou was the most impressive
What I will say though is its one thing doing it to a washed up De La Hoya and Baldimor and quite another doing it to a prime punching machine like Margarito .
Very true but I think the
Delahoya that fought Floyd that night was as good as Margarito! He threw tons of punches but is faster and arguably hit's harder than Tony.
I'd have to disagree there . De La Hoya ran out of gas after 6 and thats when Floyd took over . Margarito actually increases his workrate as the fight goes on so Mayweather would never be given any room or time .
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GAME
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piye
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GAME
The one where he was against the ropes vs NDou was the most impressive
What I will say though is its one thing doing it to a washed up De La Hoya and Baldimor and quite another doing it to a prime punching machine like Margarito .
Very true but I think the
Delahoya that fought Floyd that night was as good as Margarito! He threw tons of punches but is faster and arguably hit's harder than Tony.
I'd have to disagree there . De La Hoya ran out of gas after 6 and thats when Floyd took over . Margarito actually increases his workrate as the fight goes on so Mayweather would never be given any room or time .
Gotta agree with Game. The Elusiveness against Ndou was more impressive than Oscar and Baldomir. Oscar has obviously lost some speed and accuracy from his prime and Baldomir could only hit a stationary target. Either way, Floyd reminds me of that one scene in Spiderman where Peter Parker first gets his spider sense and dodges the numerous punches thrown by the school bully.
OoOooO! That's quite a stretch to say that the version of Oscar Floyd fought could be compared to Margarito. Oscar started the fight coming forward but eventually started backing off a bit once he got tagged. Margarito would not once back up from Floyd. Power-wise, I think Margarito would do more damage to Floyd if he landed some shots. And Game also mentioned the stamina. Oscar fades, Margarito gets stronger.
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Its all about styles just because Antonio Margaruto defeated Miguel Cotto doesn't mean he has a better chance than he did before Antonio Margarito is still too slow in footspeed and handspeed and throws his punches too wide to beat someone like Floyd Mayweather and i still think Miguel Cotto gives Floyd Mayweather his toughest fight out of all the Welterweights.
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It's a fight I'd still love to see.
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I think Mayweather would win a UD against Margarito. Cotto exposed Margarito in the first half of their fight and Floyd is a much all round better fighter than Cotto.
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Mayweather could easily take a UD if he stayed centre ring, but he's not been doing it recently. Still favour him slightly with back on the ropes, but I feel Marg will be more effective than those guys in that position, particularly when he throws four/five consecutive lefts as Floyd likes to shift from side to side when defending those combinations (+ Marg does damage hitting arms/shoulders, whatever gets in the way of his punches.).
Saying that, I wouldn't bet against Floyd making the necessary adjustments.
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Just watching some Mayweather Gifs and I must say Margarito NEVER beats him!
I learned the hard way never say never
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piye
I'm sorry but Am I understanding this right.
4 GIF's have suddenly made you realize that Margarito would loose to PBF.
Not actual fights but GIF's... ???
OK.
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Never say never. I do not see Mayweather maintaing & being able to stay in the center of the ring against Margarito,no way.He will find Tony with many shots but will himself be at range,Tony really does mind missing your chin....just as long as he finds your arms,chest,etc.The more I think on this one as time goes....I wonder if Floyd can sustain and dictact his bedazzler style against Margarito without some serious & big trouble.
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I'm just annoying Floyd is not continueing on.... I always new that he doesn't have that boxing heart of other fighters... I mean, you don't want to see fighters going on until they are useless. But look at Roy coming back. Why? Not because he needs money etc. Because he loves the game.. He loves training. Loves the hype. Loves getting in the ring. Loves facing one on one a new opponent...
Floyd does not appear even tempted to return into that glorious feeling... His love was for victory and money... And he earnt enough of both of those that there isn't temptation to come back for the boxing..
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Cotto was able to out box Margarito for the early rounds & Floyd is much better fundamentally & defensively than Cotto!
Many times I saw Cotto just put his hands up & let Margarito just walk in. Theres no way he does that with Floyd! Mayweather would punish him coming in & keep Margarito on the end of the stick all night!
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I think Floyd is a great defensive fighter and is far too clever to fight Tony the way Tony likes to fight.
Margarito is the only guy with the Roberto Duran bravado and cojones to really light into Floyd and get him good and fired up for the fight. Cotto is very respectful in the pre fight stuff. Tony doesn't give a shit, he's worked his ass off and he's always going to try and show the other fighter up (bar the Cotto fight).
I think if Tony was a better inside fighter like Duran was then he'd no doubt 100% win. But since he's a guy who doesn't mind getting hit Floyd will be more than willing to oblige and hit him numerous times.....only thing is Floyd won't have ANY effect on Tony's chin or his body or his spirit, he's a warrior.
Tony has everything stacked against him when it comes to BOXING but if he was able to cut the ring down and do a little damage here and a little damage there he could shock the world....I wouldn't bet on him but I'd be cheering for him
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floyd wont lose to margarito hes way too slow and floyd doesnt run out of gas he spars 10 min rounds to increase his stanima so thats out of the question and he will just make margarito looke like a fool all nite
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CutMeMick
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Originally Posted by
piye
I'm sorry but Am I understanding this right.
4 GIF's have suddenly made you realize that Margarito would loose to PBF.
Not actual fights but GIF's... ???
OK.
You read right! I've watched the guys career sometimes you miss the little things as he does them so often! things that highlight those moments like gifs work well to refresh the memory.
Anyway I'm sure you got that point what was the point in calling me out on it instead of discussing the topic?
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Galaxy
Cotto was able to out box Margarito for the early rounds & Floyd is much better fundamentally & defensively than Cotto!
Many times I saw Cotto just put his hands up & let Margarito just walk in. Theres no way he does that with Floyd! Mayweather would punish him coming in & keep Margarito on the end of the stick all night!
Even while Cotto was 'outboxing' Marg he was putting damage in the bank hitting whatever he could, IMO its pressurre that Mayweather hasn't faced before. In the gifs both DLH and Baldomir throw 3/4 punch combinations with wild swings while Marg against Cotto threw much more shorter punches when his opponent was on the ropes without going wildly off balance.
Floyd is a brilliant fighter, but I'm not going to give him the benefit of the doubt against fighters he refuses to face. Someone in another thread mentioned that if Tyson had retired after Spinks he'd be remembered universally as a top 3 heavy in history, if they would have mentioned Holyfield/Lewis in the 90s most 'analyst' would simply brush the challeneg aside (like what actually happened prior to Holyfield-Tyson1), but the fight proved different.
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CutMeMick
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piye
This bitch needs to come back and make the fight!!
I'm sorry but Am I understanding this right.
4 GIF's have suddenly made you realize that Margarito would loose to PBF.
Not actual fights but GIF's... ???
OK.
LOL I was thinking the same thing. Talk about being swayed easy.
I agree with him though, I think Floyd takes Marg. IMO Cotto has a better shot at Floyd than Marg does.
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Mayweather has too much class to fight the way Tony would want to fight. Cotto controlled the early going against Marg and then got dragged into something of a war. Mayweather would NOT let this happen and would frustrate Tony all night long!
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kingfrnk
floyd wont lose to margarito hes way too slow and floyd doesnt run out of gas he spars 10 min rounds to increase his stanima so thats out of the question and he will just make margarito looke like a fool all nite
Can you tell me why Floyd was gassed in rounds 10 and 11 against Hatton? Did you watch the fight? Did you see how Floyd was grasping for air like a fish out of water while he was hugging Hatton? Did you miss that, or you don't pay attention to those kinds of details? Now just imagine Floyd trying to wrestle all night with Tony. Also, if Floyd ever tried to do to Tony what he did to Hatton, that is duck over and over below the waist, Tony would catch that ass, Hatton's punches were always aimed high, just look at what Tony did to Cintron every time Cintron tried to bend that low, Hatton hesitated a lot because he was hitting Floyd behind the head every time Floyd went down that low, Tony never hesitated hitting Cintron in the back of the head when ever Cintron tried it and made Cintron pay, Tony is not that slow and he was landing those huge shots that Hatton was unable to. Imagine a bigger pressure fighter like Margarito and you will see that Tony is relentless and does not gas. Dont tell me you think Floyd would knock out Tony, Floyd would break little hands trying. If you noticed Tony was not always hitting Cotto with flush shots but he was hitting Cotto in the neck, shoulders, arms and everywhere else, Floyd would suffer the same consequeses. Who the fuck said they had no clue who Tony was? Let me tell you that those at the top knew who Tony was, those such as Winky Wright, Sugar Shane Mosley and Floyd Mayweather Jr all knew who Tony was going back as far as 2001 and none of them wanted to fuck with Tony Margarito.
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tony only puts pressure on smaller guys like cotto but against paul or santos it isnt there. and nobody knows him because hes not a big name it will all go away soon if he fights paul again dats y arum wont let him take the rematch yet he wants to get as much out of him as he can.
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kingfrnk
tony only puts pressure on smaller guys like cotto but against paul or santos it isnt there. and nobody knows him because hes not a big name it will all go away soon if he fights paul again dats y arum wont let him take the rematch yet he wants to get as much out of him as he can.
That's not really relevant in discussing a possible Mayweather - Margarito match though, PBF is much smaller than Santos or Williams.
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If a 6rd Oscar pushed him close Margarito surely will. And with his activity has as good a hope as anybody of beating Floyd.
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kingfrnk
tony only puts pressure on smaller guys like cotto but against paul or santos it isnt there. and nobody knows him because hes not a big name it will all go away soon if he fights paul again dats y arum wont let him take the rematch yet he wants to get as much out of him as he can.
It's what makes this division so entertaining, belts are going back and forth between Quintana, Cotto, Williams, Margarito and Cintron. Santos fight was pretty close and the only reason Tony moved up was because none of the big names wanted anything to do with him. We don't know what would have happend had the fight gone 12 rounds. To say that Tony will some how fall of the face of this earth is crazy, Tony is getting better but then again so are the rest of the fighters like Williams and Cotto and we have Cintron, Clottey, Quintana, also upcommers Berto and Kirkland who is thinking of moving down to 147. The division is still smoking.
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kingfrnk
floyd wont lose to margarito hes way too slow and floyd doesnt run out of gas he spars 10 min rounds to increase his stanima so thats out of the question and he will just make margarito looke like a fool all nite
Can you tell me why Floyd was gassed in rounds 10 and 11 against Hatton? Did you watch the fight? Did you see how Floyd was grasping for air like a fish out of water while he was hugging Hatton? Did you miss that, or you don't pay attention to those kinds of details? Now just imagine Floyd trying to wrestle all night with Tony. Also, if Floyd ever tried to do to Tony what he did to Hatton, that is duck over and over below the waist, Tony would catch that ass, Hatton's punches were always aimed high, just look at what Tony did to Cintron every time Cintron tried to bend that low, Hatton hesitated a lot because he was hitting Floyd behind the head every time Floyd went down that low, Tony never hesitated hitting Cintron in the back of the head when ever Cintron tried it and made Cintron pay, Tony is not that slow and he was landing those huge shots that Hatton was unable to. Imagine a bigger pressure fighter like Margarito and you will see that Tony is relentless and does not gas. Dont tell me you think Floyd would knock out Tony, Floyd would break little hands trying. If you noticed Tony was not always hitting Cotto with flush shots but he was hitting Cotto in the neck, shoulders, arms and everywhere else, Floyd would suffer the same consequeses. Who the fuck said they had no clue who Tony was? Let me tell you that those at the top knew who Tony was, those such as Winky Wright, Sugar Shane Mosley and Floyd Mayweather Jr all knew who Tony was going back as far as 2001 and none of them wanted to fuck with Tony Margarito.
How did Floyd gas out in rounds 10 and 11 against Hatton when he KO'd him in the 10th. Also comparing Floyd to Cintron is a bit of an injustice Floyd is lightyears ahead skillwise!
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rjj tszyu
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Danny_G
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kingfrnk
floyd wont lose to margarito hes way too slow and floyd doesnt run out of gas he spars 10 min rounds to increase his stanima so thats out of the question and he will just make margarito looke like a fool all nite
Can you tell me why Floyd was gassed in rounds 10 and 11 against Hatton? Did you watch the fight? Did you see how Floyd was grasping for air like a fish out of water while he was hugging Hatton? Did you miss that, or you don't pay attention to those kinds of details? Now just imagine Floyd trying to wrestle all night with Tony. Also, if Floyd ever tried to do to Tony what he did to Hatton, that is duck over and over below the waist, Tony would catch that ass, Hatton's punches were always aimed high, just look at what Tony did to Cintron every time Cintron tried to bend that low, Hatton hesitated a lot because he was hitting Floyd behind the head every time Floyd went down that low, Tony never hesitated hitting Cintron in the back of the head when ever Cintron tried it and made Cintron pay, Tony is not that slow and he was landing those huge shots that Hatton was unable to. Imagine a bigger pressure fighter like Margarito and you will see that Tony is relentless and does not gas. Dont tell me you think Floyd would knock out Tony, Floyd would break little hands trying. If you noticed Tony was not always hitting Cotto with flush shots but he was hitting Cotto in the neck, shoulders, arms and everywhere else, Floyd would suffer the same consequeses. Who the fuck said they had no clue who Tony was? Let me tell you that those at the top knew who Tony was, those such as Winky Wright, Sugar Shane Mosley and Floyd Mayweather Jr all knew who Tony was going back as far as 2001 and none of them wanted to fuck with Tony Margarito.
How did Floyd gas out in rounds 10 and 11 against Hatton when he KO'd him in the 10th. Also comparing Floyd to Cintron is a bit of an injustice Floyd is lightyears ahead skillwise!
Ok then the 9th and 10th you know what I mean. Do you want me to post the footage of Floyd grasping for air? I have never seen him do this, ever.
What don't you understand about ducking below the waist? Floyd did it and so did Cintron. Hatton was afraid to hit Floyd when Floyd was ducking that low because Hatton was getting warned by Cortez to not hit Floyd when ever Floyd ducked that low. Tony will not be afraid to hit Floyd when he goes down that low, just look at what he did to Cintron. I am not comparing Floyd as a whole to Cintron, I am comparing that one action.
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I don't think we all give Floyd enough credit for his elusive powers. I predict Margarito will never get to throw a punch near Mayweather near a 50 mile radius.
Mayweather left for a reason, it's too hot and heavy with Cotto, Margarito around, not to mention a tough man in Paul Williams.
But I can't prove it, but I can sure think it. But I also think Cotto has more of what it takes to beat Mayweather (In his prime, since he's retired right now), but after THAT fight with Tony... who knows what Cotto has left. haha
Go Tony!!!!!!!!
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Its all about styles just because Antonio Margaruto defeated Miguel Cotto doesn't mean he has a better chance than he did before Antonio Margarito is still too slow in footspeed and handspeed and throws his punches too wide to beat someone like Floyd Mayweather and i still think Miguel Cotto gives Floyd Mayweather his toughest fight out of all the Welterweights.
Exactly very well said. Styles make fights that why Floyd is great he adapts to styles. Margo would be too slow... Cotto would give my boy Floyd a tough fight.
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purtyboy
Exactly very well said. Styles make fights that why Floyd is great he adapts to styles. Margo would be too slow... Cotto would give my boy Floyd a tough fight.
If Toni gets off 100 punches a round then I fancy his chances.
Cotto did show vs Margarito that he can box very well....I think vs Floyd he'd do very well.
