Rahman: Bring on Haye !!!!!

When manager Steve Nelson read the report on Fightnews that no one wants to fight David Haye, the first words out of his mouth were, "That's not true, Hasim Rahman is willing and able to fight him." Nelson says negotiations for a fight between Haye and the former heavyweight champion have been going on for a couple months with no concrete offers from the Haye camp and Rahman is waiting for the opportunity. "To my knowledge we have been in negotiations with Haye," stated the Rock. "I think David wants to make himself out to be the best heavyweight. He can't beat any of the champions. He wants to use his cruiserweight title to give him one opportunity for a big payday." Nelson and Rahman say that they are willing to fight Haye in England. "They have not made a formal offer to us, so that shows they don't want to fight Hasim," said Nelson. Rahman claims his team has never come out with outrageous money demands so that should not be a sticking point. "David, you can't beat any heavyweight out there," continued Rahman. "No one is ducking you. All you have to do is step up to the plate with me. If he wants to fight, I will make sure the canvas is full of hay so Haye has something soft to fall on!"

source: fightnews.com

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Who would have thought...there is actually a fight which I would be rooting for Rahman...

reguardless of who haye fights.....for any reason he just better pray he doesn't loose. He and his fans will never hear the end of it.

rahman would be an easy fight for haye now

...definatly an easy fight. But stranger things have happened, With a whole lot less pre fight talking.

Haye is chinny and Rahman and can punch. Haye should win, but that combo always makes an upset possible!

Haye would whip his ass three ways from Thursday and twice on Saturday.;D

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Im sorry but that is not true , Rahman has never been chinny and he has some power , so explain how its an easy fight >???? yes Haye should win if he is going to do anything in the HW division , but EASY FIGHT WTF.
Sorry i do not agree with that.

After what Rahman pulled against Toney i wouldnt give him the time of day. Hopefully Haye sees that and doesnt give him the pay.

Rahman is great for Haye is defo not an easy fight but he is a name the casual fan know in the UK and if he was to get knocked out he could fall back on the fact that so did Lennox and get a rematch without losing to much respect if this happens with an unknown Russian he will struggle

I fear Haye is believing his own hype and pricing himself out of the fights this is the problem with fighting and promoting at the same time ask Audley

Maybe Haye should fight Sprott. If Sprott takes him out, we can change his alias on boxrec to "The Exposer."

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reguardless of who haye fights.....for any reason he just better pray he doesn't loose. He and his fans will never hear the end of it.

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I agree but his fans like fans of any other fighter will have excuses. Haye can afford to lose a time or two but not often

I actually wouldn't mind seeing Haye Fight Rahman. I think it would a good measuring stick for him in the HW division. Anything can happen though so hopefully it doesn't back fire on him. I really wanna see Haye do well in the HW division.

There is some truth in Rahman's words. IMO Haye is taleneted and can do things in the division, but he's cetainly looking for the easy way.

When he says he can KO Wlad I believe him, but he wants that shot with as little resistance as possible. He doesn't want to fight all comers and prove his mettle against all styles, certain styles he ain't comfortable with.

It's one big problem with boxing today and thats people expecting title shots after one fight against a hand picked 'top 10' opponent. It shouldn't be a question of Rahman OR Toney OR Sprott OR Maskaev, plenty of time will have past since his final fight at cruiser and end of spring 2009 for him to have fought the lot, and if he truly believed in his talent ((and wanted to prepare himself against a variety of Heavy's too be able to reign for a time afterwards) these fights would have happened, or at least against simlar names in the top 25.

Holyfield was truly the undisputed cruiser champ (no cunninghams in his closet), yet he fought 6 times at heavy before his shot.

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Haye would whip his ass three ways from Thursday and twice on Saturday.;D

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Rahman is easy after you get him tired. It really depends on how hard you can make him work. Against Tua (2nd fight), Rahman was fat, but light on his feet and had enough to last 12 rounds easy. Against Maskaev (1st and 2nd fight) he had to work and got tired. Now if Haye thinks he can just clear him out he jumps on him, but what if his power can't get rid of Rahman? To my knowledge, Lennox is the only one to clear Rahman out without him being tired first.

Rahman will lose unless he KO's the Hayemaker in 1

Give Lyakhovich a shot. He will prevail against Haye.

I think Haye will ultimately fall short at heavyweight. Put him in there with Toney and be done with this nonsense. Seriously.

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I think Haye will ultimately fall short at heavyweight. Put him in there with Toney and be done with this nonsense. Seriously.

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I thought you liked James Toney Miles ;D

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I think Haye will ultimately fall short at heavyweight. Put him in there with Toney and be done with this nonsense. Seriously.

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I thought you liked James Toney Miles ;D

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You know I do. Haye can beat Rahman and he can beat the likes of Maskaev. He will have fits against Toney though. Toney is one decent fight off of a crack at a belt and I think Haye is the perfect build up fight for it. Of course, I want Toney to fight Haye. He would make Haye look stupid. Not that it takes much.

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I think Haye will ultimately fall short at heavyweight. Put him in there with Toney and be done with this nonsense. Seriously.

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I thought you liked James Toney Miles ;D

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You know I do. Haye can beat Rahman and he can beat the likes of Maskaev. He will have fits against Toney though. Toney is one decent fight off of a crack at a belt and I think Haye is the perfect build up fight for it. Of course, I want Toney to fight Haye. He would make Haye look stupid. Not that it takes much.

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To be honest i haven't been impressed with James Toney in a long time he was outboxed by someone like Samuel Peter now ask yourself does Samuel Peter have the skills of David Haye or the speed etc ? Samuel Peter is a slow plodding Heavyweight.........

I didn't see James Toney against Hasim Rahman but i did see his last fight before that and he looked utter rubbish and couldn't lift the pace i used to enjoy watching James Toney but i think he should of retired atleast 2 years ago.

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You know I do. Haye can beat Rahman and he can beat the likes of Maskaev. He will have fits against Toney though. Toney is one decent fight off of a crack at a belt and I think Haye is the perfect build up fight for it. Of course, I want Toney to fight Haye. He would make Haye look stupid. Not that it takes much.

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To be honest i haven't been impressed with James Toney in a long time he was outboxed by someone like Samuel Peter now ask yourself does Samuel Peter have the skills of David Haye or the speed etc ? Samuel Peter is a slow plodding Heavyweight.........

I didn't see James Toney against Hasim Rahman but i did see his last fight before that and he looked utter rubbish and couldn't lift the pace i used to enjoy watching James Toney but i think he should of retired atleast 2 years ago.

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The first fight against Peter Toney won pretty handily. Despite what the judges said. The second Peter fight Toney looked off big time. And he was. Apparently Toney was fighting with an injured leg there. Peter did win that though, yes. Where did you see the Batchelder fight? I wouldnt mind seeing that, Ive not come across that fight anywhere.

Toney should have retired. But he hasnt won his belt yet. And it seems he wont stop until he does.

And Haye has quick hands but he has never faced anybody with the slipping skills Toney has. Haye has seldom fought at heavyweight either. And he hasnt proven he can fight 12 hard rounds. Haye is unproven at heavyweight. As for all of this calling out Wlad nonsense...just fight somebody. Beat somebody and then do some talking.

Toney would school Haye and thats why Haye talks up Rahman. Sad really.

Haye's contradicting himself with all the justifuing opponents he's trying to do. Says he doesn't want someone washed up yet targets Rahman. He was on Setanta and they asked him why target Wlad so much, and not Vitali? Rather than stating the obvious that Wlad is the champ he started digging further by saying that one of Vitali's last fights was against a professional golfer, neglecting to mention that the very same proffessional golfer KTFO Wlad.

Haye is obviously a bit stupid. Has a lazy tongue and is able to slip words off easy enough. But his arguments are flawed and show a complete lack of intelligence. Bring on Rahman! :rolleyes:

Haye is a plonker. He should at least be knocked out by someone better than Rahman.

I was on the live chat with Dan Rapheal over on ESPN a little while ago and someone asked the question if James Toney or Rahman was going to be his next fight and he said it is definitely not gonna be Toney, however he did say Rahman is still in the cards. Thats all he said though. Not sure how reliable Dan Rapheal is, I don't read much of his stuff.

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I think Haye will ultimately fall short at heavyweight. Put him in there with Toney and be done with this nonsense. Seriously.

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It was Toney who backed out.

Haye still seeking foe!

Thursday, September 4 2008


Former unified cruiserweight champion-turned-heavyweight David Haye believes heavyweight boxers refuse to fight him because "they know it's going to be their last fight." He has yet to find an opponent for his debut fight at the O2 Arena in London on November 15th. Haye told Setanta Sports News that he was in talks with four heavyweight boxers for the fight later this year and that one unnamed boxer had backed out. "He agreed the money, he agreed the fight, the date; everything was sorted. Obviously he's gone home and watched some DVDs of me in action and made a U-turn. He thought I was just a cruiserweight champion but he's watched me in action and thought to himself "he's no ordinary cruiserweight."


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Haye also revealed that money was an issue, claiming that many of the names touted were fighting for their pension. "They've come in with some ridiculous figures. A lot more than I'll be making from the fight after all's said and done. They realize they're not only going to get beat, but they'll get violently smashed."

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I think Haye will ultimately fall short at heavyweight. Put him in there with Toney and be done with this nonsense. Seriously.

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It was Toney who backed out.

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I would like to see verification of this. Sounds like British hype, to be honest.

In an odd way,I'd hate to see Rahman some what rewarded with such a big scale spot light fight here.Think what you will of Haye but he gets the headlines and generates huge interest right now.Rahman's "desire" was questionable and wanning last outing and I would not be surprised to see Haye tune him up badly should they fight.

rahman would be alrite for a warmup but i would rather see him fight samuel peter before a waldimir fight just to see if he can take the heavyweight punches

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You know I do. Haye can beat Rahman and he can beat the likes of Maskaev. He will have fits against Toney though. Toney is one decent fight off of a crack at a belt and I think Haye is the perfect build up fight for it. Of course, I want Toney to fight Haye. He would make Haye look stupid. Not that it takes much.

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To be honest i haven't been impressed with James Toney in a long time he was outboxed by someone like Samuel Peter now ask yourself does Samuel Peter have the skills of David Haye or the speed etc ? Samuel Peter is a slow plodding Heavyweight.........

I didn't see James Toney against Hasim Rahman but i did see his last fight before that and he looked utter rubbish and couldn't lift the pace i used to enjoy watching James Toney but i think he should of retired atleast 2 years ago.

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The first fight against Peter Toney won pretty handily. Despite what the judges said. The second Peter fight Toney looked off big time. And he was. Apparently Toney was fighting with an injured leg there. Peter did win that though, yes. Where did you see the Batchelder fight? I wouldnt mind seeing that, Ive not come across that fight anywhere.

Toney should have retired. But he hasnt won his belt yet. And it seems he wont stop until he does.

And Haye has quick hands but he has never faced anybody with the slipping skills Toney has. Haye has seldom fought at heavyweight either. And he hasnt proven he can fight 12 hard rounds. Haye is unproven at heavyweight. As for all of this calling out Wlad nonsense...just fight somebody. Beat somebody and then do some talking.

Toney would school Haye and thats why Haye talks up Rahman. Sad really.

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Toney only has himself to blame for not winning a belt. He cheated and took steroids twice and that cost him a title.

Haye for me has to take this fight. Its a reasonably dangerous one for him against a decent name and if he wins would probably catapult him to an instant Wlad fight. If he loses on the other hand it proves he is an heavyweight pretender (god i hope not) and does not belong in the land of the giants.

i really dont care just name an opponent haye