These mother phukers are soooo desperate that they just ran a 5 minute clip on 9/11 during the RNC. Is this all they have? More FEAR MONGERING from the :pis2: Rerpublicans
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These mother phukers are soooo desperate that they just ran a 5 minute clip on 9/11 during the RNC. Is this all they have? More FEAR MONGERING from the :pis2: Rerpublicans
The 'publicans are trying to make themselves 'public'. :dontknow:
Yes fear mongering.....you Democrats wouldn't know much about that would you???Quote:
Originally Posted by Danny_G
"They are going to take away your welfare and social security"
I don't say that as a Republican, I say that as a REGISTERED INDEPENDENT!
McCain is middle of the road, Palin is far right, Biden AND Obama are FAR left. I'm voting FOR McCain. I understand the "wrap them in the flag" view on the Republicans but I can also see the "blame America first" view on the Democrats.
Politics is a game, but I see McCain voting 86% with the Republicans and Obama voting 97% with the Democrats. I also see EXPERIENCE on the Republican's side (for once) and that has also made my mind up...along with the fact that I would have voted for McCain in 2000 if given the chance.
EXPERIENCE is on the Republican side? Look at it this way, you have a man who is about to drop dead any minute and then where will all of your so called experience be? The only thing the Republicans have to run on is scare tactics from 9/11? Which I and many others believe was an inside job. How could a plane hit the Pentagon? Isn't the Pentagon the headquarters of the United States Department of Defense? Why hasn't the footage from the security cameras that caught that footage been released to the public? Because it was not an air plane, thats why.Quote:
Originally Posted by LyleYes fear mongering.....you Democrats wouldn't know much about that would you???Quote:
Originally Posted by Danny_G
"They are going to take away your welfare and social security"
I don't say that as a Republican, I say that as a REGISTERED INDEPENDENT!
McCain is middle of the road, Palin is far right, Biden AND Obama are FAR left. I'm voting FOR McCain. I understand the "wrap them in the flag" view on the Republicans but I can also see the "blame America first" view on the Democrats.
Politics is a game, but I see McCain voting 86% with the Republicans and Obama voting 97% with the Democrats. I also see EXPERIENCE on the Republican's side (for once) and that has also made my mind up...along with the fact that I would have voted for McCain in 2000 if given the chance.
The only changes the old man will be making if he is elected are his home address and his adult diapers.
#1 Palin still has more EXECUTIVE experience than anyone else running right now, more than McCain, more than Biden, more than Obama.Quote:
Originally Posted by Danny_G
#2 Palin is a candidate for VICE PRESIDENT unlike Obama who's running for PRESIDENT.
#3 Your "9/11 was an inside job" view is sickening and I think you need to seek mental help.
...as per your "9/11 was an inside job" thoughts....I might remind you, that people still think the moon landing was faked and professional wrestling is real.
Obama Biden, seriously could you possibly have a more unfortunately named duo to run for the American presidency?
I keep saying it, and I will repeat it now, there is no way in hell that America will vote a black muslim with a classic terrorist name into office.
It's called the White House for a reason............
McCain voted with Bush 90% of the timeQuote:
Originally Posted by LyleYes fear mongering.....you Democrats wouldn't know much about that would you???Quote:
Originally Posted by Danny_G
"They are going to take away your welfare and social security"
I don't say that as a Republican, I say that as a REGISTERED INDEPENDENT!
McCain is middle of the road, Palin is far right, Biden AND Obama are FAR left. I'm voting FOR McCain. I understand the "wrap them in the flag" view on the Republicans but I can also see the "blame America first" view on the Democrats.
Politics is a game, but I see McCain voting 86% with the Republicans and Obama voting 97% with the Democrats. I also see EXPERIENCE on the Republican's side (for once) and that has also made my mind up...along with the fact that I would have voted for McCain in 2000 if given the chance.
What road is he in the middle of,a highway with a tanker truck bearing down?
And experience at sucking,is still sucking
Im sure whores are good at taking it up the ass,but I wouldnt want my daughter learning how to do it
quiet brit..Quote:
Originally Posted by Bilbo
worry about your own country.. i don't even know who your president is.. tony blair still?
;D
Stop watching CNN and Fox you mediot!Quote:
Originally Posted by Lyle
You are the kind of person that I would steal dope from and then I would help you look for it and all that time you would be thinking I was doing you a favor.
Sarah Palin has me thinking uptight over bearing strict schoolteacher.......
this could go somewhere :scratchchin:..........:mwink:
Our President :rolleyes:, ah bless you Yanks and your complete ignorance of the world beyond your shores.Quote:
Originally Posted by RP33quiet brit..Quote:
Originally Posted by Bilbo
worry about your own country.. i don't even know who your president is.. tony blair still?
;D
The only cross most Americans will put next to a black man would be a burning one!
McCain voted with Republicans 86% of the time meanwhile Obama voted with Democrats 97% of the time. McCain has actually written some laws and is willing to take a stand on serious issues...Obama has been a US Senator for like 140 working days....all the things people dislike about W are apparently positives for Obama. He's never made a big decision, never really had much going on with politics, and has no experience of running anything outside of politics ie a business.Quote:
Originally Posted by Trainer Monkey
Danny_G I don't watch CNN OR Fox...I wonder if your shapeshifting reptilian overlords know that you know what is REALLY going on :rolleyes: .....get a life wierdo
I don't mind Obama, I just think he needs more experience and Americans will vote for him.
Bilbo, no one cares about Gordon Brown and no one cares he's a Prime Minister and not a President.....no one cares that England will never be ready for a President
Ross Perot for President ;D
Perot was a good candidate and had he just stayed in the race he would have won HANDS DOWN.
Ross Perot is a great man and his VP candidate was a solid choice as well although people really rode him about being bad in the debates...they just didn't understand where he was coming from.
Lyle, McCain said it himselfQuote:
Originally Posted by LyleMcCain voted with Republicans 86% of the time meanwhile Obama voted with Democrats 97% of the time. McCain has actually written some laws and is willing to take a stand on serious issues...Obama has been a US Senator for like 140 working days....all the things people dislike about W are apparently positives for Obama. He's never made a big decision, never really had much going on with politics, and has no experience of running anything outside of politics ie a business.Quote:
Originally Posted by Trainer Monkey
Danny_G I don't watch CNN OR Fox...I wonder if your shapeshifting reptilian overlords know that you know what is REALLY going on :rolleyes: .....get a life wierdo
I don't mind Obama, I just think he needs more experience and Americans will vote for him.
Bilbo, no one cares about Gordon Brown and no one cares he's a Prime Minister and not a President.....no one cares that England will never be ready for a President
Republicans are kinda grotesque. America NEEDS a change and old man McCain and his oddball hench woman are not change enough. Obama will most likely get elected and so what if he hasnt got as much political experience? Thats nonsense. Its about making smart choices. As simple as. Politics and business are not so far apart. Intelligent people make sound choices. Fools with experience just make experienced foolish decisions.
what the hell kinda change will Obama bring? nothin' that what
dude is just presenting the same ol' socialist platform...blah blah blah. His arrogant condescension is sickening.
dude is the best teleprompter reader ever but that is about it. I will give him that but if y'all are satisfied with that then vote for him. Get him w/o a script and dude um's himself to death.
I am sick of phonies man.....and both biden and girly girl obama are phonies. I ain't voting 4 mccain either. I liked Rudy but ........oh well dude couldn't run a campaign for shiot....
out of the 4 Palin has more executive experience that all of them
she has exceeded the Repubs short term goals and that is to electrify the base. Prior to her selection, the base I would argue, would have stayed home. Now they are coming to vote.
prediction: she is gonna tear up Biden at the debates. Dude is a phony and she isn't. :flame:
Whats does McCain bring?Quote:
Originally Posted by Mad_Dog
4 more years of high gas prices,stagnant wages,shitty schools,enviromental disaster,war
Gee where I can I sign up to canvas for that?
Its always the same(not only in the US)...you have two canidates and now you try to choose the lesser of two evils...of course everybody knows you Americans screwd that up the last two times...;)
What does it really matter how much of a "Maverick" McCain was when it suited him since he's changed most of his stances in order to get elected? McCain brings political pandering to impressive levels.
I hate McCain the Insane so do not think I support him. I hate Messiah Obama too. But for you to think that the President controls high gas prices, wages, and schools is troubling. The oils markets are controlled by a various factors, including supply and demand. Wages have various factors that control them too. Schools, well they are controlled by local school boards and States here in America. Does your leader have total control over these issues where you are from? The feds do not control that here. What environmental disasters do you speak of specifically, that was confusing.....Quote:
Originally Posted by Trainer MonkeyWhats does McCain bring?Quote:
Originally Posted by Mad_Dog
4 more years of high gas prices,stagnant wages,shitty schools,enviromental disaster,war
Gee where I can I sign up to canvas for that?
You are only right that the President controls war, by the way both candidates the Messiah Obama too have said that they would keep the troops there. Right after he said it, Obama's base shrieked and he back pedaled:rolleyes:
I bet if he wins, he keeps them there....he is and always will be a phony. :flame:
You are right. It should be a case of damage limitation. A choice of two and a vote for which one might reduce the standard of living the least. My, thats ambitious politics. ;DQuote:
Originally Posted by JohnnyKickAss
And Obama hasn't??? FISA bill anyone ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by OumaFan
Of course Obama has, the Energy one was truly depressing, but they all do, its just McCain who has taken it to amazing new heights. Especially considering how often he talks about being a Maverick. Who refers to themselves as a maverick? Seriously? But question him on his flip flops and he'll tell you he was a POW.
The GOP positions McCain voted against, like the torture bill, he's now flip flopped and is campaigning for GOP orthodoxy on those issues. The legislation he authored and that has his name on it he's now campaigning against also, the first candidate in history to do so. There isn't a single principle or position that he previously held that he hasn't flipped on to try and get elected.Quote:
Originally Posted by LyleMcCain voted with Republicans 86% of the time meanwhile Obama voted with Democrats 97% of the time. McCain has actually written some laws and is willing to take a stand on serious issues...Obama has been a US Senator for like 140 working days....all the things people dislike about W are apparently positives for Obama. He's never made a big decision, never really had much going on with politics, and has no experience of running anything outside of politics ie a business.Quote:
Originally Posted by Trainer Monkey
Danny_G I don't watch CNN OR Fox...I wonder if your shapeshifting reptilian overlords know that you know what is REALLY going on :rolleyes: .....get a life wierdo
I don't mind Obama, I just think he needs more experience and Americans will vote for him.
Bilbo, no one cares about Gordon Brown and no one cares he's a Prime Minister and not a President.....no one cares that England will never be ready for a President
The Democrats rightly point out that the GOP want to abolish social security because that's actually GOP policy -- Bush tried and failed to scrap it in 2005.
The GOP have pandering and fear mongering down to a fine art. Like appointing a vice president candidate with zero credentials to try and win votes.
The way this campaign is being fought and the media coverage of it shames America.
The media coverage doesn't shame AMERICA it shames NBC because of their HORRID coverage (MSNBC is the guilty party).
Kirkland I don't disagree that politics involves pandering to an extent but what you fail to admit is that the Democrats do it too....but it's just another thing they suck at
NBC is owned by GE, a conglomerate who make over 40% of their profits from government contracting. In any other democracy in the world it's illegal for a company that does government contracting to own any media outlets for fear of corruption of their news output, however everything you watch in the US is owned by firms that do. But I digress.
As usual you've fallen for the latest bit of GOP propaganda. Sarah Palin is an unqualified bs artist with endless questions hanging over her, so anybody asking those questions is getting stamped on by the GOP. The White House did the same at the start of the Iraq war, creating a similar manufactured controversy over how liberal MSNBC was and managed to get them to cancel their highest-rated show (Donohue) because he was actually asking questions (that the media now admits it should have asked) and refused to allow the "retired generals" on his show that we now know were part of a Pentagon propaganda programme to bs the American people into supporting the war, something you can read about here :
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/04/20/wa...0generals.html
I didn't see any of the GOP convention coverage (you've seen one white power rally, you've seen them all) but I'm sure it was up to its usual standards of completely ignoring the fact that the GOP don't ever mention any policies, they just attack and smear the opposition. The US media never actually cover anything relevant like policies or positions in elections, they just cover the horse-race aspect of the campaigns, who's winning, who made a gaffe, who said what about who. It's not reporting or analysis it's gossip.
If they were actually reporting on stuff they'd cover the huge bailout of Fannie and Freddie at the weekend, something you'll personally be paying for for decades and all due to GOP economic policies a few years ago, the Bush administration having scrapped decades of banking regulations which would have prevented the current fiancial crisis. An ever-increasing part of every American's daily labour now goes and obviously will continue to go to subsidise Wall Street by the socialisation of risk. It's socialism for the banking class and savage capitalism for you. Why doesn't that get covered in the media? Why is nobody asking McCain why he's planning on scrapping even more regulations and has policies which will create even bigger financial problems in future? The US media is a sick joke.
To think that Palin will out-debate Biden is similar to my cheering for Baldomir against PBF. It isn't going to happen.
Biden is a heavyweight politician. He is by far the most qualified of the four (P and VP). To have picked someone like Palin whenever you are a cancer survivor/poor ass health I believe is a most unpatriotic move (pure politics).
I do think they are wearing the shite out of the "Maverick" label .Might distance them selves right into a puppet theater.Biden runs a slight risk of coming off as abit flip and overbearing in the Debates.......fine line in with Palin who's backers will pounce.You can see it coming.
side note,I dont care what your politics are.........but can some one tell 'Elmer' lieberman to sit down and STFU already,what a bore!!
Enjoy. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Spicoli surfs 'Nawlins
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cVPxi...eature=related
Now the link doesn't work for me. Can anybody else see that video? If not go here and click the first link
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bro you are giving Biden WAAAAAY too much credit. Have you ever seen him in action. Dude says the sky is blue one minute then he tells you its yellow the next. I have never seen anyone quite like him. It baffles me that he keeps getting reelected.Quote:
Originally Posted by boozeboxer
As far as heavyweight....maybe if the heavy's weighed a buck o' five. Dude has been wrong on everything as far back as I can remember. He is one of my five least favorite politicians.
my least favorite is Gil Cedeno state legislator in my great state of California.
I had a mad moment. Post erased.
I don't think the debates will make much difference. High school juniors can learn enough in a set period to do replicas of these debates so a professional politician like Palin can be briefed adequately with enough talking points and information in the time they have before she debates. If she doesn't make a serious blunder it'll be spun as a Palin win too.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mad_Dogbro you are giving Biden WAAAAAY too much credit. Have you ever seen him in action. Dude says the sky is blue one minute then he tells you its yellow the next. I have never seen anyone quite like him. It baffles me that he keeps getting reelected.Quote:
Originally Posted by boozeboxer
As far as heavyweight....maybe if the heavy's weighed a buck o' five. Dude has been wrong on everything as far back as I can remember. He is one of my five least favorite politicians.
my least favorite is Gil Cedeno state legislator in my great state of California.
My favourite politician is James Traficant for his honest wig and his amazing dress sense, plus standing up and telling Congress that they'd all love to have the courage to wear bell bottoms to work too. I'd vote for this guy anytime.
http://wwwimage.cbsnews.com/images/2...ge1202860g.jpg
Lehman Brothers is one of the top few investment banks in the world. Today their shares lost 40% of their value, the kind of drop we saw happen to Bear Stearns before they were bailed out by the Fed. Wall Street firms like Bear and Lehman don't add value to the economy, they just charge fees to manage money and help investors and corporations do business.
If and when Lehman do get bailed out it's going to mean the printing of huge quantities of dollars to add on to the huge quantitiy of dollars the Fed has already printed in the seven bailouts it's Ok'd since the current crisis started. Every US taxpayer is going to pay for these bailouts, but in real yerms (and disproportionately compared to the wealthy) the prudent will pay for this, and not in some future taxes to pay for the debt (they'll pay those too) but via inflation as the number of dollars printed continues to increase. The unstated message of all these bailouts is that you're now prudent at your own risk if you don't buy into each bubble that comes along you're going to see the value of your savings and assets slashed and burnt.
If the media were doing their job they'd be all over this story as there's nothing more important to Americans (or the way they vote)than the economy. Instead they're asking does Obama really love America ans scaring Americans over nonexistent threats like Iran. These bailouts are going to cost working families thousands over the next decade via inflation and new debt but the whole issue is ignored by the media. It's like watching Pravda cover the old Soviet Union.
Politics have began to bore me severely, this whole election has began to run on fumes. I will say though that I do believe Obama has the right ideas and I think he handles himself just fine without a teleprompter, he may not be articulate at times but the points he makes are usually good. Uhh, what else. Oh yeah, the pick of Palin was a complete joke though Spicoli nailed it with the schoolteacher thing, but that was a desperation pick no doubt and that executive experience card is a joke. She was the mayor of a small town and governor of one of the richest states in the union with 600 thousand people. Gavin Newsom has executive power over 4 times as many people as the mayor of San Francisco. That executive experience card is complete shit. And she's a wack job anyways, Rush Limbaugh with lipstick essentially. I think sex with Palin would be more satisfying, though I think Bilbo would actually prefer Rush Limbaugh in lipstick. Or maybe his feet would be to big for the high heels ???
But yeah, this whole thing has gotten very boring, very boring. Obama did vote for the FISA bill, that's fairly inexplicable I don't know wtf he was thinking there as that is a terrible terrible intrusion on our rights, but that kind of defeats your theory of Obama not wanting to anger the left Lyle as that was one of the more divisive bills out there.
I just hope McCain doesn't win. I think it's funny he's running on change now, hah, some change.
I just dont know how anybody could vote repulican. Its an anti human, dead eyed type of person that does that. Two of the most awful terms in American history and McCain is just the front for a perpetuation of the same old crap. If the election is even close then that will be quite sad.
Obama is clearly the best choice and its a little more human and lively eyed than the god awful alternative.
Thats what I dont get about why its even close,McCain proudly proclaimed he's voted with Bush 90% of the time,he was one of the disgraced Keating 5,he cheated on his first wife with his socialite second wife, and nobody can name a single thing this current administration has so much as looked at it didnt break.Quote:
Originally Posted by miles
Have people lost their minds?