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Anybody any idea?
Also was i imagining things or did Khan sound like he had a bad cold pre-fight (during the interview)but then he sounded fine after the fight?
Me and my Dad looked at each other and both said 'he sounds ill' before both saying 'he doesn't sound ill now' after the fight.
Weird. Yes i'm making excuses. ;D
Seriously tho. Did i imagine it? And the fasting...i'm just curious. Because if he was, his matchmakers and handlers want shooting.
That is a good question. I had no idea he was a Muslim and if he is Muslim, why the hell is he fighting on the month of Ramadan? :confused:
Yeah he is. I know he fought last year during Ramadan.Quote:
Originally Posted by Danny_G
Sounds like i'm looking for an excuse so i don't even wanna say what i'm going to say...
BUT
Surely going 12+ hours without food or water directly before a fight against a heavy hitter is surely a dreadful idea. Especially when you're a little bit chinny yourself.
Completely beggars belief if this is the case (which i'm pretty sure it is).
Not saying that's why he lost....those shots would have sparked most....well those stupid enough to stand and trade
I don't think he was fasting. Sadly I think he just doesn't have a chin at all, it's been proven tonight.
Real shame because he's got all the talent in the world but I guess he'll never be anything now.
If you can't take a punch, you ain't never going to win a title. What a shame :(
Lennox Lewis, Tommy Hearns and terry NorrisQuote:
Originally Posted by Bilbo
There's been plenty of chinny fighters to win a title, so khan if he ever did it wouldn't be the first, but if he indeed was fasting then he's really dum for fighting the guy...
Hewas fasting as he's a strict Muslim and it's ramadam, i said in Mark TKO's thread that he looked and sounded i'll pre fight;)
not an excuse for him but a fact.
Crazy to arrange a fight under those circumstances
No he was feed plenty in 30 Sec ;D
haha those hooks would have floored anyone lol
I thought he sounded like he had a cold,but he still shouldnt of got caught after 15 seconds.Quote:
Originally Posted by ono
guy I work with who is currently fasting was telling me that Khan isn't a strict muslim and doesn't fast during Ramadan
he could be wrong but can't see him fighting during September if he was fasting
going to watch it again now Smash, will look for him looking scared on the ringwalk, never noticed last night
HE LOOKED TERRIFIED I THOUGHT;)
When i interviewed him a few years ago he was 100% fasting then!
you're right
quote from Khan last year - fasts during training but not on fight day. How can he go without water during training ?!?!
If this is the case then the fucking idiot shouldn't fight in September - could play on it as an excuse though :)
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While most healthy Muslims are able to perform the fast without any major problems, as the month progresses the combination of lack of food and sleep can take its toll and a tired or grumpy Muslim colleague or school child can be found staring at the clock in the countdown to iftar time, when they can break their fast after sundown.
While missing out on business lunches and the daily mocca-chocca-skinny latte may be difficult, those with more physical jobs have an even more arduous task. Professional boxer Amir Khan fasts even throughout his training.
"Fasting makes you feel weak," he said last year. "You have to wake up at four or five in the morning to eat, but you're knackered and you don't feel like food, you have to force it down. I wouldn't fast on the day of a fight though."
Vitaly, Judah, Antonio Margarito..... (which one does not fit)Quote:
Originally Posted by MajestyLennox Lewis, Tommy Hearns and terry NorrisQuote:
Originally Posted by Bilbo
(A) Vitaly
(B) Judah
(C) Margarito
Naw,it looks more like the fact he's never under center and on balance finally caught up to himQuote:
Originally Posted by ono
Thanks god somebody else noticed it. I thought i was imagining it all.Quote:
Originally Posted by smashup
What an idiot. Can't believe how dumb him and his team are. Career suicide at it's best.
Khan weren't fasting. I went to Morocco in August and they're muslims there. We got a talk off some guy about there religion and he said sports stars, pregnant women, old people and children under 14/15 don't have to fast.
I know for a fact he fasted last year though...and fought.Quote:
Originally Posted by leftylee
Like i said earlier
He was fasting when i interviewed him a few years back;)
He could have eaten a 10 course meal and those punches would have still put him down though but the timing of the fight is shocking
Oh do stop,you have to make weight,minimum or maximum. If he fasted to get down,then he's at the wrong weight class
WTF ??
he wouldnt have fasted to make weight, its due to his religion, have you not read any of the other posts in this thread
If you fast,you lose weight,he had to make a minimum weight as well as a maximumQuote:
Originally Posted by hitmanhatton
ye and he did i think 134 1/2 lb so pretty much same as he comes in every fight i dont see what point your trying to make at all
If you fast,you lose a massive amount of weight quickly,so if he had fasted,he wouldnt have come in at acceptable weight for the commission to allow the fight to happenQuote:
Originally Posted by hitmanhatton
You have to make a minimum weight as well as a maximum in your weight class
Your commission will allow you a few pounds under,but not a massive fasting weight loss
There wouldnt have been a fight if he had been fasting,he would have been too under weight
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Originally Posted by Trainer MonkeyIf you fast,you lose a massive amount of weight quickly,so if he had fasted,he wouldnt have come in at acceptable weight for the commission to allow the fight to happenQuote:
Originally Posted by hitmanhatton
You have to make a minimum weight as well as a maximum in your weight class
Your commission will allow you a few pounds under,but not a massive fasting weight loss
There wouldnt have been a fight if he had been fasting,he would have been too under weight
not really he could still eating once its dark i believe i work with some muslims and none of them have lost a noticable amount of weight
Are there not certain exemptions from the fasting requirement?
If so, I'm sure Khan would have been exempted for health & safety reasons.
Saying that, I just think it's a matter of poor punch resistance for Khan.
The Limod & Gomez fights proved that there were going to be rough times aheah, whenever he fought someone with a dig & so it proved last night.
ThenQuote:
Originally Posted by hitmanhattonQuote:
Originally Posted by Trainer MonkeyIf you fast,you lose a massive amount of weight quickly,so if he had fasted,he wouldnt have come in at acceptable weight for the commission to allow the fight to happenQuote:
Originally Posted by hitmanhatton
You have to make a minimum weight as well as a maximum in your weight class
Your commission will allow you a few pounds under,but not a massive fasting weight loss
There wouldnt have been a fight if he had been fasting,he would have been too under weight
not really he could still eating once its dark i believe i work with some muslims and none of them have lost a noticable amount of weight
he's still eating isnt he?
Not an excuse for getting sparked in 54 seconds is it
exactlly i never claimed it was an excuse i was just saying it wouldnt have effected his weight, but its not normal eating patterns is it and its the day of the fight that would be most difficult because if he had stook to his fasting he would have been able to eat up untill a couple of hours before the fight,
but hed have been ktfo regardless
Yes it is ramadan and Khan did seem to have no punch resistance what so ever he was hurt with a jab.It could have played a part in it but i think he was gunna get KO'd no matter what Prescott was just better.He could be the next world champ we should have been following him rather than Khan.
Bloody hell Lee you get to travel alot the only place i've ever been is Isle Of Wight ;DQuote:
Originally Posted by leftylee
I know, I'm pretty lucky in that respect. I'm going to Vegas for my 18th birthday next year.Quote:
Originally Posted by ICBBloody hell Lee you get to travel alot the only place i've ever been is Isle Of Wight ;DQuote:
Originally Posted by leftylee
Vegas now ? damn im getting jealous now maybe when i get a job and start earning some decent money i'll travel with my girl to America for holiday or Spain etc.Quote:
Originally Posted by leftyleeI know, I'm pretty lucky in that respect. I'm going to Vegas for my 18th birthday next year.Quote:
Originally Posted by ICBBloody hell Lee you get to travel alot the only place i've ever been is Isle Of Wight ;DQuote:
Originally Posted by leftylee
Quote:
Originally Posted by leftyleeI know, I'm pretty lucky in that respect. I'm going to Vegas for my 18th birthday next year.Quote:
Originally Posted by ICBBloody hell Lee you get to travel alot the only place i've ever been is Isle Of Wight ;DQuote:
Originally Posted by leftylee
haha so youll be just old enough to drink in this country but youll be in place were you still wont be able to ?
lol
I don't drink anyway so I'm not bothered. I already get served in bookies now because I look older. I'm already taking driving lessons now. So being 18 yrs old doesn't bring anything major to me.Quote:
Originally Posted by hitmanhattonQuote:
Originally Posted by leftyleeI know, I'm pretty lucky in that respect. I'm going to Vegas for my 18th birthday next year.Quote:
Originally Posted by ICB
haha so youll be just old enough to drink in this country but youll be in place were you still wont be able to ?
lol
I don't drink either like Lee and i'll be 19 this month its good to see another sensible teenager like me in that respect especially in this day and age.Quote:
Originally Posted by hitmanhattonQuote:
Originally Posted by leftyleeI know, I'm pretty lucky in that respect. I'm going to Vegas for my 18th birthday next year.Quote:
Originally Posted by ICB
haha so youll be just old enough to drink in this country but youll be in place were you still wont be able to ?
lol
Yeah teens nowadays are into drugs, knives and all sorts of shit. Have you heard some teenagers refer to other teens as "Soldiers". So pathetic. That's were they should put all of them in the army and send them on the front line.Quote:
Originally Posted by ICBI don't drink either like Lee and i'll be 19 this month its good to see another sensible teenager like me in that respect especially in this day and age.Quote:
Originally Posted by hitmanhattonQuote:
Originally Posted by leftylee
haha so youll be just old enough to drink in this country but youll be in place were you still wont be able to ?
lol
im 15 dont drink or anything but it is sad to see how many people my age are hooked to drink and drugsQuote:
Originally Posted by ICBI don't drink either like Lee and i'll be 19 this month its good to see another sensible teenager like me in that respect especially in this day and age.Quote:
Originally Posted by hitmanhattonQuote:
Originally Posted by leftylee
haha so youll be just old enough to drink in this country but youll be in place were you still wont be able to ?
lol
To be honest even if he was fasting i don't think it really made a difference he was caught cold the first solid jab already shook him then the left hook to the forehead made him dizzy and he just couldn't recover i've had similar experiences in an Amateur fight where i was caught cold but i was able to survive and clinch and pound out a decision.............
Amir Khan has normally shown good survival instincts in the past but in this fight he didn't show any in fact if he was that hurt he should of gone down on the one knee after being floored 1st time and that would have gave him another good 18 seconds combined with the first knockdown.