JMM v Casamajor
Campbell v Guzman
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JMM v Casamajor
Campbell v Guzman
Ive gone for Campbell vs Guzman but i think both fights will be good it was a 50/50 toss up and i went with this fight.
They are both amazing and important fights in the Lightweight division.
I voted for Campbell vs. Guzman, because I think it will be a closer fight. I think JMM will have more in all aspects to overcome Casa, but Casa is a crafty cagey guy as well.
I am very pleased that these are happening at the same time, I think the winners should face each other.
...i can't pick 50/50 here.
They're both outstanding matchups but if I had to pick then Casamayor vs. JMM.
Campbell Guzman will be a more entertaining fight.
Marquez Casa will be a good technical fight though.
Casamayor-Marquez
I voted Casa Marquez but I won't be buying it.
I'll be watching Nate and Joan go at it. This will also be a good fight.
both very great fights but i pick the casa and JMM fight mainly because i like watchin JMM fight hes the type of fighter that wont make the fight boring and it will put him at #1 in the light weight division which to me is the second best division right now and could force another fight with pacman if he wants to do it.
Casa/JMM will be a great matchup for purists, and I'll enjoy watching next week for free, but it has the potential to be a bit overly tactical. I enjoy those kind of matchups, but I enjoy style clashes much more, and Guzman/Campbell should provide that. Plus there is the subplot of "Can the inconsistent and older Campbell turn in another performance like he did against Diaz?" Even if he does, will it be enough? Is Guzman really as good as he looked against Soto?
A slight edge for Casa/JMM for me; just more interested in this fight. Going to get real interesting in the middle to late rounds.
Stylistically = JMM-Casa **** / Joan-Nate ***
Importance = JMM-Casa ***** / Joan-Nate ****
I think JMM-Casa slightly takes this one by the slightest margin.
I used stars to rate them...
I think Guzman-Campbell is more important. Marquez is going to beat Casa I know that.
Campbell-Guzman is for 3 belts...
Casa-JMM is only for 1 belt...
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Originally Posted by SaddoBoxer
alphabet titles mean nothing,
Casa is the ring champion so in my opinion if were judging these fights by how much is on the line JMM/Casa is the better fight
One thing I have learned is to never write Casa off. If I was to bet on the fight I probably would go JMM but i'd never write Casa off!Quote:
Originally Posted by Tam Seddon
I'm more interested in that fight also. Not that Guzman-Campbell doesn't interest me, just not as much as Casa-JMM.
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Originally Posted by hitmanhattonQuote:
Originally Posted by SaddoBoxer
alphabet titles mean nothing,
Casa is the ring champion so in my opinion if were judging these fights by how much is on the line JMM/Casa is the better fight
The ring championship award that Casa has was a gift. Remember Santa Cruz fight? Not all the time the ring championship award was correct. Campbell's 3 belt was legitimate, he beat the man who beat the other title holders. So i think the Guzman-Campbell is legitimate and more significant. JMM-Casa fight is great but the reward is questionable.
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Originally Posted by hitmanhattonQuote:
Originally Posted by SaddoBoxer
alphabet titles mean nothing,
Casa is the ring champion so in my opinion if were judging these fights by how much is on the line JMM/Casa is the better fight
Campbell defeated a highly regarded lightweight in Juan Diaz when he got the 3 belts...
Casamayor been in recent questionable fights including the Santa Cruz robbery... That diminishes the importance of his fight with JMM...
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Brilliant.... :appl:Quote:
Originally Posted by hitmanhattonQuote:
Originally Posted by SaddoBoxer
alphabet titles mean nothing,
Casa is the ring champion so in my opinion if were judging these fights by how much is on the line JMM/Casa is the better fight
JMM-Casa is for THEE lineal title THEE Champ of the div.
You make true statements BUT the fact of the matter still remains that Casa has the Ring title. If the ring felt it necessary they would have tooken the Ring title from Casa as they've done in the past with other fighters.Quote:
Originally Posted by SaddoBoxerQuote:
Originally Posted by hitmanhattonQuote:
Originally Posted by SaddoBoxer
alphabet titles mean nothing,
Casa is the ring champion so in my opinion if were judging these fights by how much is on the line JMM/Casa is the better fight
Campbell defeated a highly regarded lightweight in Juan Diaz when he got the 3 belts...
Casamayor been in recent questionable fights including the Santa Cruz robbery... That diminishes the importance of his fight with JMM...
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JMM-Casamayor.
JMM is one of the 3 best fighters in the world. Casamayor is the lineal lightweight champ. Neither Campbell nor Guzman can claim anything close to that.
I'll be looking forward to the Campbell-Guzman fight more.
I have a sweatband that says Juan Manuel Marquez on it. ;D
Still, I voted for Campbell and Guzman. I think the price tilts the scales in their favor.
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Originally Posted by BoxingGorilla
Also I am looking forward to Bradley-Cherry more than Mora-Forrest.
We have no choice here we are getting the Campbell fight which is better than nothing but wanted to see the Casamajor fight more as it will be more competitive. Guzman should beat Nate but unsure about JMM beating Joel.
Both very important fights and equally as good but if I had to lean 1 way then I'd go with Guzman vs Campbell
Reasons ;
Cuz Casa is about a decade past his best and Marquez is also pretty old and in the wrong division
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This could be the start of summat great for Guz especially if he looks the part. Campbell also is the complete package and will make this a really good fight .
We can also look at this way...
A Campbell or Guzman victory this weekend is more important than a Casamayor or JMM victory... ;)
Campbell winning over an undefeated slick boxer...
Guzman defeating a bigger 3 belt holder champ...
Casa winning over a small counter puncher...
JMM defeating an old shot lineal champ...
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Anything to put JMM down somehow... :beat:Quote:
Originally Posted by SaddoBoxer
Once he becomes THEE lineal champ Pac will have to answer to that. ;)
I see Campbell / Guzman has potential to be real entertaining crossroad-esqe battle.
But Casamayor vs. Marquez is the one.Tactical and physical fight between two of the Smartest fighters in the last couple of decades Imo.How many possible hall of famers in that one btw ?
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Originally Posted by CutMeMickAnything to put JMM down somehow... :beat:Quote:
Originally Posted by SaddoBoxer
Once he becomes THEE lineal champ Pac will have to answer to that. ;)
This is not to put JMM down...
According to JMM he already defeated PAC twice... So a 3rd PAC-JMM fight has no bearing at all since JMM (according to him) defeated PAC two times already in their two encounters... ;D
But if Team JMM can offer PAC the money that can match the money in the possible PAC-Hatton or PAC-PBF future fights then JMM might possibly get a 3rd fight with PAC even if he defeated PAC already two times (according to him)... ;)
PAC will be retiring in 2009 so PAC will be only after the BIG money fights from now on... PAC has 2 or 3 fights left before leaving boxing and then pursuing a life of a public servant in his native Philippines...
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im looking forward to guzman vs campbell. i want to see how much of a hype guzzy really is or if he is a real deal. we all know that jmm casa will be a tactical battle but unlike most of you guys, i see casa winning this. jmm isnt as perfect as he used to be. the guy now seems to trade much more than he used to. we know that casa is maybe past his prime but that ko of kats was no fluke. the guy still has power and he stil have some if not most of his boxing skills. if he tags jmm good jmm will hit the deck again. jmm could train all he wants but his jaw will not get stronger given that he is not young at all. just think of it. barerra dropped him, pac dropped him. i wont be foolish to think that casa has no shot at dropping him. IMO...
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Originally Posted by CutMeMickYou make true statements BUT the fact of the matter still remains that Casa has the Ring title. If the ring felt it necessary they would have tooken the Ring title from Casa as they've done in the past with other fighters.Quote:
Originally Posted by SaddoBoxerQuote:
Originally Posted by hitmanhatton
Campbell defeated a highly regarded lightweight in Juan Diaz when he got the 3 belts...
Casamayor been in recent questionable fights including the Santa Cruz robbery... That diminishes the importance of his fight with JMM...
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As i metion before, this Ring Belt that Casa has was a fraud. Im not making a statement here like im more knowledgable than Ring Mag but I know you saw the Santa Cruz-Casa fight sir.. and im sure you know it was a gift for Casa.. I think the Campbell-Guzman is more significant since what is at stake are belts won in convincing and legitimate way. JMM-Casa fight is great for me as a boxing fan but the reward they are making or telling us are a little bit questionable. That Lightweight Ring Belt was void and vacant since Santa Cruz-Casa fight.
Would ALL of you who said Nate-Joan care to RE-TAKE your vote? ;D
http://www.saddoboxing.com/boxingfor...ke-weight.html
what an ahole Guzman. what the hell is wrong with him.. He is the smaller guy here coming up from 130 yet he can't make the 135 limit. Nate still keep the title though... he deserve it coz he is professional.. This is supposed to be great fight but...
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Originally Posted by CutMeMick
Nope...
In fact, it's proven Campbell-Guzman is really the better fight coz a lot of people got pissed when the fight was called off... :mad:
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