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Who is the best chill-be-chilled fighter today?
You know. Like Julian Jackson or Tommy Morrison. If they didn't get you, you would get them. My personal choice today is Colombian bomber Alejandro "Naco" Berrio. Who is yours? :confused: ;D :confused:
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holmcall
You know. Like Julian Jackson or Tommy Morrison. If they didn't get you, you would get them. My personal choice today is Colombian bomber Alejandro "Naco" Berrio. Who is yours? :confused: ;D :confused:
Now I know your def. Ted Sares... ;D
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But I agree Ted with Berrio.
Kermit Cintron is another good one.
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How' bout Edison Miranda, Haye (though he's only been starched once), Cotto (though he's only been starched once).
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Another colombian....
Ricardo Torres
Jhonny Gonzales gotta be in that group.
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Edwin Rosario.......:fight:
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I was going to mentioned Miranda and Torres as well. How about Zuniga?
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There are plenty of fighters you could say are kill or be killed fighters, but at the elite level they just get killed and have a slim chance of winning. Your Miranda or Berrio type fighters basically. Julian Jackson is probably the best pure example of a guy who actually had a great chance to score a KO against elite opponents yet just as likely to get stopped himself.
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Suppose Hearns could be mentioned, although he was certainly more than capable of boxing to a decision.
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Ricardo Torres
David Haye
Edison Miranda
Giovanni Lorenzo
Kermit Cintron
Michael Katsidis
Daniel Ponce De Leon
Vic Darchinyan
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luvfightgame
Both Klitschko brothers.
Vitali was almost impossible to KO in my opinion so he can't be counted. He only ever really lost fights through injury.
Tyson! Every defeat came by knockout and most wins came by knockout too!
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p4pking
Suppose Hearns could be mentioned, although he was certainly more than capable of boxing to a decision.
The worse might be Marcus Rhode at 34 (KO 29)-34 (KO 29)-2 :rolleyes:
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CutMeMick
How' bout Edison Miranda, Haye (though he's only been starched once), Cotto (though he's only been starched once).
Yeah, what is it with these Colombians? :confused:
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I couldn't think of a better example than the obvious, first mentioned Julian Jackson. Wlad is probably the closest current version. 83% ko wins, 3 KO losses. If only he had big brother's chin.
I'd throw Bob Foster and Chico Corrales on the list.
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"The Dancing Destroyer" Herbie Hide. I didn't realize he was still fighting until I saw a result of his last month (cruiserweight). He is 44-4 with 41 KO's and all 4 losses by KO. His level of competition is subject for debate with Tucker and Bentt being his most notable wins and Bowe and V Klitschko his most notable losses (all four were KOs).
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DAWGSWIN
"The Dancing Destroyer" Herbie Hide. I didn't realize he was still fighting until I saw a result of his last month (cruiserweight). He is 44-4 with 41 KO's and all 4 losses by KO. His level of competition is subject for debate with Tucker and Bentt being his most notable wins and Bowe and V Klitschko his most notable losses (all four were KOs).
Yes hes in Germany doing his thing at the moment, i think Enzo against Hide would be a good fight and would show exactly where Enzo is against a vet like Hide.
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Humberto Gonzalez ?All three losses by crushing Ko.was on his way to lossing to Olymian Kim until he found the sweet spot at the very end.
Not a one shot simple slugger by any means,Could turn some nice boxing also as in rematches with my Bwoy Carbajal.....but damn,he could crack with the best.
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You fellas have already covered all bases.
Immediately thought of Edison Pantera Miranda, and there's still a bit of a question about David Haye. Haye's TKO loss a few years ago was mostly because he ran out of gas because he wasn't training properly looking past the old journeyman Carl Thompson; Haye almost had Thompson out of there.
Haye's learned from that mistake and always comes in in top shape now.
Also, the 6'3" Haye has really struggled to make 200 lbs the last few years.
When a man stops draining himself through dehydration and comes in instead at his natural fighting weight, he's often able to take a shot better.
At 140 lbs, Cotto's chin seemed questionable, but look how much punishment Cotto was able to take at 147.
I loved watching Julian Jackson, most of his fights happened on regular network televison.
For a real dangerous old-timer with deadly 1 punch power coupled with a glass jaw: Bob Satterfield.
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Felix Trinidad may be applicable.
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hitmandonny
Felix Trinidad may be applicable.
only been stopped once afgter a 12 round beatdown,
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hitmandonny
Felix Trinidad may be applicable.
only been stopped once afgter a 12 round beatdown,
In terms of performances I don't agree.
Perhaps not as dramatic as Jackson or Tyson, but with Tito he either excelled or was crushed.
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hitmandonny
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hitmanhatton
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hitmandonny
Felix Trinidad may be applicable.
only been stopped once afgter a 12 round beatdown,
In terms of performances I don't agree.
Perhaps not as dramatic as Jackson or Tyson, but with Tito he either excelled or was crushed.
he got caught cold early in fights a few times ,
however he had two fights were he was dominated for 12 rounds, but i wouldnt say his a fighter that either stops people or is stopped himself
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hitmanhatton
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hitmandonny
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hitmanhatton
only been stopped once afgter a 12 round beatdown,
In terms of performances I don't agree.
Perhaps not as dramatic as Jackson or Tyson, but with Tito he either excelled or was crushed.
he got caught cold early in fights a few times ,
however he had two fights were he was dominated for 12 rounds, but i wouldnt say his a fighter that either stops people or is stopped himself
OIts just an opinion, but I thought the Winky fight was worse than getting sparked out.
The Jones fight saw Jones test his mobility over twelve, he could have stopped Trinidad easily had he wanted to.
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luvfightgame
Both Klitschko brothers.
I'd agree with Wlad before Steward came along. I don't know if that can be said of Vitali, though.
How about Jean Marc Mormeck?
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holmcall
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CutMeMick
How' bout Edison Miranda, Haye (though he's only been starched once), Cotto (though he's only been starched once).
Yeah, what is it with these Colombians? :confused:
It's the coffee. :cool:
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I just realized that David Haye's and many others complaint about Wlad Klitschko is the same thing that got him taken out, an alleged weak chin that probably has more to do with gassing out. Look at Klitschko's KO losses. Puritty I never saw, but Corrie Sanders just had a heatseeking missile that would have taken out anyone had he connected that solidly that many times and Lamon Brewster just decided to become the Terminator and absolutely did not stop until Klitschko was dead. But when Klitschko fought Ray Mercer, Mercer hit him square several times, Klitschko wobbled, but recuped and kept pressing. Peter connected and downed Klitschko several times (granted, his chin isn't on the top of his head) and he recuped and kept pressing. At least with Klitschko I'm going to revise my original opinion and say Klitschko has at least a decent chin. Hell we may never get to see how good it really is considering he's made so much improvement defensively.
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[FONT='Times New Roman','serif']Slovakian Stefan Stanko is chilled far more than he chills. His record is an alarming 6 (KO 6)-58 (50)-. :confused: :o:o :confused:[/FONT]
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DAWGSWIN
"The Dancing Destroyer" Herbie Hide. I didn't realize he was still fighting until I saw a result of his last month (cruiserweight). He is 44-4 with 41 KO's and all 4 losses by KO. His level of competition is subject for debate with Tucker and Bentt being his most notable wins and Bowe and V Klitschko his most notable losses (all four were KOs).
Yes, Hide is a great example. Recently he has been going the distance. His power seems to have left him.
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RozzySean
I couldn't think of a better example than the obvious, first mentioned Julian Jackson. Wlad is probably the closest current version. 83% ko wins, 3 KO losses. If only he had big brother's chin.
I'd throw Bob Foster and Chico Corrales on the list.
Chico a good example. Foster always got iced :eek: when he moved up to fight Heavies.
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bradlee180
You fellas have already covered all bases.
Immediately thought of Edison Pantera Miranda, and there's still a bit of a question about David Haye. Haye's TKO loss a few years ago was mostly because he ran out of gas because he wasn't training properly looking past the old journeyman Carl Thompson; Haye almost had Thompson out of there.
Haye's learned from that mistake and always comes in in top shape now.
Also, the 6'3" Haye has really struggled to make 200 lbs the last few years.
When a man stops draining himself through dehydration and comes in instead at his natural fighting weight, he's often able to take a shot better.
At 140 lbs, Cotto's chin seemed questionable, but look how much punishment Cotto was able to take at 147.
I loved watching Julian Jackson, most of his fights happened on regular network televison.
For a real dangerous old-timer with deadly 1 punch power coupled with a glass jaw: Bob Satterfield.
Satterfield, arguably, was the most exciting fighterof the '50s and the most exciting one to ever come out of Chicago. His fight with Rex Layne is a classic example of this.
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holmcall
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CutMeMick
How' bout Edison Miranda, Haye (though he's only been starched once), Cotto (though he's only been starched once).
Yeah, what is it with these Colombians? :confused:
It's the coffee. :cool:
LMFAO! ;D
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ICB
Ricardo Torres
David Haye
Edison Miranda
Giovanni Lorenzo
Kermit Cintron
Michael Katsidis
Daniel Ponce De Leon
Vic Darchinyan
How? To my knowledge he's never been dropped much less stopped
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Spicoli surfs 'Nawlins
The beast....John Mugabi
Good one and speaking of the Beast, how about Earl Hargrove? :confused: