Why taking a knee is so unpopular?....

I mean I don't know if it just some Mexican boxing fans (I could be wrong) but I read a lot of people criticizing when a boxer takes a knee.

For example take last Saturday if Casamayor would have take a knee he might have ended the round taking a time to recover instead of punching crazy while hurt. Cotto vs Margarito, if Cotto wouldn't take a knee he might had got seriously hurt.

Do boxers hesitate to take a knee knowing that is necessary at times but since is unpopular they decide not to do it?

What is your take on this?

Nothing wrong with taking a knee i've seen few Amateurs live do it i've seen one of the guys that goes to my gym do it and he comeback to win the fight i personally think its very smart move and to be honest more fighters should do when there dazed or seriously hurt but i suppose its hard to think like that when you've got a rain of punches coming your way or some boxers just have such a big ego that they won't do either way i think more fighters should do it if i remember rightly didn't Serguei Lyakhovich go down on one knee against Lamon Brewster ?

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Originally Posted by ICB

Nothing wrong with taking a knee i've seen few Amateurs live do it i've seen one of the guys that goes to my gym do it and he comeback to win the fight i personally think its very smart move and to be honest more fighters should do when there dazed or seriously hurt but i suppose its hard to think like that when you've got a rain of punches coming your way or some boxers just have such a big ego that they won't do either way i think more fighters should do it if i remember rightly didn't Serguei Lyakhovich go down on one knee against Lamon Brewster ?

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IT could be their ego but the fact that some fans hate it might makes them think twice before doing it

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Originally Posted by ICB

Nothing wrong with taking a knee i've seen few Amateurs live do it i've seen one of the guys that goes to my gym do it and he comeback to win the fight i personally think its very smart move and to be honest more fighters should do when there dazed or seriously hurt but i suppose its hard to think like that when you've got a rain of punches coming your way or some boxers just have such a big ego that they won't do either way i think more fighters should do it if i remember rightly didn't Serguei Lyakhovich go down on one knee against Lamon Brewster ?

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I agree ICB I also think its good to take the knee to get your bearings. But in the heat of the moment I think a lot of fighters look for that opportunity to counter while their opponent is attacking or they don't want to show how hurt they really are...

Many boxers are also not aware how much time left in a round where taking a knee in the dying seconds of round could spell victory or defeat...

I think when a fighter takes a knee after being seriously hurt it shows a great deal of intelligence and composure.

Many times it is the difference between a KD and a KO. I see nothing wrong with it at all, and I have a hard time understanding why someone would say otherwise.

most probably dont want there pride hurt

I don't really get the impression it is unpopular among fans.. Pretty silly if people do criticize it. But one thing I'm fairly sure of is that the reason it isn't more commonly used among fighters would have nothing to do with the fans perception. Can you honestly see a fighter being hurt but refusing to take a knee on the basis it's unpopular? Maybe they are just to stubborn to give the round away knowingly? I'd say it probably comes down to the fighters mentality somewhat. Some boxers don't know how to lose rounds or feel out etc, they are always pressing to win every excange. It would be logical that fighters with this mentality would be more hesistant to take a knee, wheras fighters who are willing to pace themselves and fight a more calculated fight would be less reluctant? Of course there have been some good points raised so far in that they don't know how long is left in the round and often guys will leave themselves most vulnerable when trying to finish an opponent. Those are both huge reasons to.

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Originally Posted by Galaxy

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Originally Posted by ICB

Nothing wrong with taking a knee i've seen few Amateurs live do it i've seen one of the guys that goes to my gym do it and he comeback to win the fight i personally think its very smart move and to be honest more fighters should do when there dazed or seriously hurt but i suppose its hard to think like that when you've got a rain of punches coming your way or some boxers just have such a big ego that they won't do either way i think more fighters should do it if i remember rightly didn't Serguei Lyakhovich go down on one knee against Lamon Brewster ?

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I agree ICB I also think its good to take the knee to get your bearings. But in the heat of the moment I think a lot of fighters look for that opportunity to counter while their opponent is attacking or they don't want to show how hurt they really are...

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Yea and also with that; by taking a knee when your opponent is getting wild trying to finish you, you are giving him the same chance to breathe and think things out as you get. It becomes a big judgement call whether you will be able to recuperate enough in those 10 seconds and defend yourself more intelligently , when your opponent can measure a better attack in that same time you are trying to recover.

It's unpopular since majority of the boxers taking a knee in a fight ended up losing that fight...

Not many were smart enough to fully take advantage of a "knee" breather... The one that remains standing almost always has the upperhand...

Many just consider taking a knee a losing effort...
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Its a funny one, I never did it, thats why Ive been chinned a few times. Whether its because there vision goes and need time probably to clear. Ive been on my arse a few times, thinking if I get up this cunt will Kill me. But I still got up ;D. Some time winning , sometimes finnishing back on my arse :rolleyes:

Ive talked to alot of fighters about this,ever forget,it happened to me.
Its happening so fast you just dont remember that its on your option list.

i think most boxing fans only see the warrior side of boxing and just want to watch a scrap, :-\

If a fighter is hurt it's a fantastic idea to take a knee. The problem is you don't train to do it. It's counter-intuitive to what you put weeks in the gym for. To willingly give away a round so you can come back to win the fight doesn't make sense on the surface. But when a guy is beating you like you forgot to make dinner it makes all the sense in the world. You need to make him stop and recover.

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Originally Posted by p4pking

I don't really get the impression it is unpopular among fans.. Pretty silly if people do criticize it. But one thing I'm fairly sure of is that the reason it isn't more commonly used among fighters would have nothing to do with the fans perception. Can you honestly see a fighter being hurt but refusing to take a knee on the basis it's unpopular? Maybe they are just to stubborn to give the round away knowingly? I'd say it probably comes down to the fighters mentality somewhat. Some boxers don't know how to lose rounds or feel out etc, they are always pressing to win every excange. It would be logical that fighters with this mentality would be more hesistant to take a knee, wheras fighters who are willing to pace themselves and fight a more calculated fight would be less reluctant? Of course there have been some good points raised so far in that they don't know how long is left in the round and often guys will leave themselves most vulnerable when trying to finish an opponent. Those are both huge reasons to.

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I know is crazy but I read here and there a lot of fans criticizing when a fighter takes a knee. Like someone said here is a smart thing to do.

I also remember corley vs Cotto. he (corley) took a smart knee and the moron stopped the fight.

For you all, the thread is a bout a fan perspective when a boxer takes a knee.

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Originally Posted by Puya

I also remember corley vs Cotto. he (corley) took a smart knee and the moron stopped the fight.

For you all, the thread is a bout a fan perspective when a boxer takes a knee.

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That's foul but even worse is when the guy is actually actively throwing punches back and the ref stops the fight.

its unpopular because fighters feel like they will be judged for it alot of people will say he gots no heart or he cant take the pain although il never take a knee

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Originally Posted by kingfrnk

its unpopular because fighters feel like they will be judged for it alot of people will say he gots no heart or he cant take the pain although il never take a knee

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So you'd rather just take the KO? What if the guy is just pounding you and you can't get him off?

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Originally Posted by Puya

I mean I don't know if it just some Mexican boxing fans (I could be wrong) but I read a lot of people criticizing when a boxer takes a knee.

For example take last Saturday if Casamayor would have take a knee he might have ended the round taking a time to recover instead of punching crazy while hurt. Cotto vs Margarito, if Cotto wouldn't take a knee he might had got seriously hurt.

Do boxers hesitate to take a knee knowing that is necessary at times but since is unpopular they decide not to do it?

What is your take on this?

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My take is if you take a knee your a pussy, If your are a championship caliber boxer, you should be ready for ANYTHING when you get into the ring. Fighters are getting paid to win. Not necessarily lay their life on the line, but they should do anything, and everything possible to win. If you can win safely then I don't have a problem with it, but if you need to lay it all on the line then I think you have to.

Cotto gave up. I've seen fighters take way more punishment and not give up. I mean watch Tua-Ibeabuchi, Ali vs Frazier, Holyfield-Quawi, Holyfield-Tyson.

FIghts like Roy against Glen Johnson, he didn't take a knee, but he was a real man because he didn't give up, he fought until he was KTFO, Same with Tyson against Lewis or Holyfield, even though he had quit long before the end he still stood in there and took what was owed to him.

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Originally Posted by Taeth

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Originally Posted by Puya

I mean I don't know if it just some Mexican boxing fans (I could be wrong) but I read a lot of people criticizing when a boxer takes a knee.

For example take last Saturday if Casamayor would have take a knee he might have ended the round taking a time to recover instead of punching crazy while hurt. Cotto vs Margarito, if Cotto wouldn't take a knee he might had got seriously hurt.

Do boxers hesitate to take a knee knowing that is necessary at times but since is unpopular they decide not to do it?

What is your take on this?

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My take is if you take a knee your a pussy, If your are a championship caliber boxer, you should be ready for ANYTHING when you get into the ring. Fighters are getting paid to win. Not necessarily lay their life on the line, but they should do anything, and everything possible to win. If you can win safely then I don't have a problem with it, but if you need to lay it all on the line then I think you have to.

Cotto gave up. I've seen fighters take way more punishment and not give up. I mean watch Tua-Ibeabuchi, Ali vs Frazier, Holyfield-Quawi, Holyfield-Tyson.

FIghts like Roy against Glen Johnson, he didn't take a knee, but he was a real man because he didn't give up, he fought until he was KTFO, Same with Tyson against Lewis or Holyfield, even though he had quit long before the end he still stood in there and took what was owed to him.

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See what I mean?

Of course taking a knee is unpopular. This is a combat sport.

I'm not saying it's bad. If someone gives all they can and knows there is nothing left then save it for another day or retire.

But people are bloodthirsty. Especially people who like combat sports, like boxing. Taking a knee is submission. Viewers want people who are gonna act like they will put it all on the line in the ring. Problem is when you got $10 mil in the bank and another $4 mil coming for the fight your not going to do that unless you are a crazy mo

And specs like crazy mo's.

It's risk/reward. If you are getting paid 7-8 digits then people don't care if you gave it your all they want to see you put out or get shut out.

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Originally Posted by Puya

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Originally Posted by p4pking

I don't really get the impression it is unpopular among fans.. Pretty silly if people do criticize it. But one thing I'm fairly sure of is that the reason it isn't more commonly used among fighters would have nothing to do with the fans perception. Can you honestly see a fighter being hurt but refusing to take a knee on the basis it's unpopular? Maybe they are just to stubborn to give the round away knowingly? I'd say it probably comes down to the fighters mentality somewhat. Some boxers don't know how to lose rounds or feel out etc, they are always pressing to win every excange. It would be logical that fighters with this mentality would be more hesistant to take a knee, wheras fighters who are willing to pace themselves and fight a more calculated fight would be less reluctant? Of course there have been some good points raised so far in that they don't know how long is left in the round and often guys will leave themselves most vulnerable when trying to finish an opponent. Those are both huge reasons to.

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I know is crazy but I read here and there a lot of fans criticizing when a fighter takes a knee. Like someone said here is a smart thing to do.

I also remember corley vs Cotto. he (corley) took a smart knee and the moron stopped the fight.

For you all, the thread is a bout a fan perspective when a boxer takes a knee.

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Not sure if Puya is still around- but found this thread and remember the knee Corley took- that was wrong of the ref- to which could be why some fighters know they have that option- but fear the outcome it could produce.

One wise time that sticks out was Tim Bradley vs Kendolt holt for the WBC/WBO belts. Holt, bolted him & he took that knee. Wise move, it payed off for him & he finished off strong.

If you have to take a knee in a fight then you should.

Smart fighters take a knee when they need time to recover.

It will not guarantee them a win but it can happen.

I'm pretty much the opposite, there have been many, many times I've wanted a fighter to take a knee.

Fighters don't take a knee because they lose that round, it gives confidence to their opponent, they think they lose some macho points, and most boxers have too much pride to show any weakness, IMO.

I've never heard, that I can recall, any commentators talking about how many times a particular fighter has taken a knee. Should we start keeping stats on taking knees to separate the smart fighters from the stupid ones? Do you think if we started talking about 'smart knees' fighters would start taking knees more often? Hell no!! Lol

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Originally Posted by Puya

I mean I don't know if it just some Mexican boxing fans (I could be wrong) but I read a lot of people criticizing when a boxer takes a knee.

For example take last Saturday if Casamayor would have take a knee he might have ended the round taking a time to recover instead of punching crazy while hurt. Cotto vs Margarito, if Cotto wouldn't take a knee he might had got seriously hurt.

Do boxers hesitate to take a knee knowing that is necessary at times but since is unpopular they decide not to do it?

What is your take on this?

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My take is if you take a knee your a pussy, If your are a championship caliber boxer, you should be ready for ANYTHING when you get into the ring. Fighters are getting paid to win. Not necessarily lay their life on the line, but they should do anything, and everything possible to win. If you can win safely then I don't have a problem with it, but if you need to lay it all on the line then I think you have to.

Cotto gave up. I've seen fighters take way more punishment and not give up. I mean watch Tua-Ibeabuchi, Ali vs Frazier, Holyfield-Quawi, Holyfield-Tyson.

FIghts like Roy against Glen Johnson, he didn't take a knee, but he was a real man because he didn't give up, he fought until he was KTFO, Same with Tyson against Lewis or Holyfield, even though he had quit long before the end he still stood in there and took what was owed to him.

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^^^^^^Dumb shit right there.

Soy sauce on a girl's knee
Hee hee hee
She looks so pretty
Her cute Chinese knees

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Originally Posted by Scrap

Its a funny one, I never did it, thats why Ive been chinned a few times. Whether its because there vision goes and need time probably to clear. Ive been on my arse a few times, thinking if I get up this cunt will Kill me. But I still got up ;D. Some time winning , sometimes finnishing back on my arse :rolleyes:

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Well put mate for being so honest.