Now that Marquez had won over Casa, if Pac would fight Casa how would the fight end?
Please give your reasons.
I personally think it would be an early TKO in favor of Pac.
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Now that Marquez had won over Casa, if Pac would fight Casa how would the fight end?
Please give your reasons.
I personally think it would be an early TKO in favor of Pac.
Same here...Quote:
Originally Posted by brucelee
Now that we're at it, how will JMM vs DDiaz will end? IMO it will be a UD12 win by JMM...
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You pac fans will create any number of polls with one criteria --> that Pac is the clear winner of it.
We saw Pac destroy the iron chinned David Diaz and I'd expect a similar job to be done on Casa.
Pacquiao stops Casamayor late.
I can remember last year that nobody's talking about Pac winning over Casa... not even through SD.;D;D;DQuote:
Originally Posted by boozeboxer
If Pac can win over Casa then it's clear that he could also have taken the ring title. Hypothetically, that would make him number 1 or number 2 in the lightweight ranking.:cool:
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Originally Posted by bruceleeI can remember last year that nobody's talking about Pac winning over Casa... not even through SD.;D;D;DQuote:
Originally Posted by boozeboxer
If Pac can win over Casa then it's clear that he could also have taken the ring title. Hypothetically, that would make him number 1 or number 2 in the lightweight ranking.:cool:
Surprisingly you got a point mate... ;)
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You talking about the same Diaz who got knocked out by Kendall Holt. Dropped by a shot Erik Morales. And wobbled badly by Silverio Ortiz. You calling him iron chinned? :lolhaha:. Bottom line is both Marquez and Casamayor are better fighters than Pacquiao. Marquez has already proven it twice. Casamayor, even at his advanced age still beats him.Quote:
Originally Posted by rjj tszyu
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Originally Posted by Violent DemiseYou talking about the same Diaz who got knocked out by Kendall Holt. Dropped by a shot Erik Morales. And wobbled badly by Silverio Ortiz. You calling him iron chinned? :lolhaha:. Bottom line is both Marquez and Casamayor are better fighters than Pacquiao. Marquez has already proven it twice. Casamayor, even at his advanced age still beats him.Quote:
Originally Posted by rjj tszyu
Yeah we respect your opinion... You think Casa will TKO PAC if ever they fight now... ;)
But that is the minority opinion here... Anything can happen in boxing... ;)
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Why would Pacquiao ever fight Casamayor?
I think Pac would have trouble with Casa. If i had to pick i say Casa by a close decision.
and you also said that Casa would win over Marquez.....;DQuote:
Originally Posted by Violent DemiseYou talking about the same Diaz who got knocked out by Kendall Holt. Dropped by a shot Erik Morales. And wobbled badly by Silverio Ortiz. You calling him iron chinned? :lolhaha:. Bottom line is both Marquez and Casamayor are better fighters than Pacquiao. Marquez has already proven it twice. Casamayor, even at his advanced age still beats him.Quote:
Originally Posted by rjj tszyu
We know that you're a Casa Fan VD. And I've also known that your prediction is usually blinded by your affection.;D
You've lost many bets because of that.
Yes, what a big surprise that one Pac groupie would agree with another. Shocking revelation if you ask me. Can you tell me what the point was though? I don't speak moron.Quote:
Originally Posted by SaddoBoxerQuote:
Originally Posted by bruceleeI can remember last year that nobody's talking about Pac winning over Casa... not even through SD.;D;D;DQuote:
Originally Posted by boozeboxer
If Pac can win over Casa then it's clear that he could also have taken the ring title. Hypothetically, that would make him number 1 or number 2 in the lightweight ranking.:cool:
Surprisingly you got a point mate... ;)
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Actually nevermind I think I've got it. So since PAC can move to 147 and fight Oscar, he could be in line for a shot at the WW champion. Since Pac can fight Oscar at 147, Marquez can obviously beat him at the weight since he already beat PAC at 130. Now since DLH has title in six weight classes and Marquez could beat him, that means JMM could move up and beat Hopkins like DLH and PAC can't. So hypothetically Marquez could be the undisputed Light heavyweight champion next year if Calzaghe will fight him...
Or do those trains of thought only make for good points when they involve Pac walking on water?? Sorry I'm still learning.
casa fought well against marquez. he would give pac problems.
Bruce's point is, last year PAC was an underdog in a match-up against Casa but now PAC is a heavy favorite (see poll results). IMO the point is very clear unless you're a moron...Quote:
Originally Posted by p4pkingYes, what a big surprise that one Pac groupie would agree with another. Shocking revelation if you ask me. Can you tell me what the point was though? I don't speak moron.Quote:
Originally Posted by SaddoBoxerQuote:
Originally Posted by brucelee
Surprisingly you got a point mate... ;)
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Why do you even bother with them bet they've never even seen Silverio Ortiz vs. David Diaz. The only time they've see him was leading up to the Pac fight and even then if they did see him they would have saw how he struggled agains the mediocre opponent Ramon Montano.Quote:
Originally Posted by Violent DemiseYou talking about the same Diaz who got knocked out by Kendall Holt. Dropped by a shot Erik Morales. And wobbled badly by Silverio Ortiz. You calling him iron chinned? :lolhaha:. Bottom line is both Marquez and Casamayor are better fighters than Pacquiao. Marquez has already proven it twice. Casamayor, even at his advanced age still beats him.Quote:
Originally Posted by rjj tszyu
Now listen I'm not debating the Casa-Pac matchup all I'm saying is David Diaz is not what people were lead to believe. I said this in the thread of "Does David Diaz have a chance at an upset?";
"Pac would have to fight THEE worst fight of his life in order to loose this one. I don't see how Pac can loose this unless he just completely get's in the ring and is not him."
Anyone who saw/sees and or believed Diaz was a threat or a iron chinned fighter was/is completely cluless about Diaz. Diaz best performance was possibly agains Jaime Rangel and believe me that's not saying much. Diaz entire career has missed just that, leading up to the fight he had looked even worst then before. Sure he had shown heart but the skills that were once there as an amateur were no longer there. Santa Cruz was outboxing the whole way through. Kolt blasted him out and as mentioned Silverio Ortiz out hussled him and beat him from pillar to post. Don't let the scores from the judges on BoxRec fool you cause at the very least Silverio won 7 rounds the least. How on earth the judges scored it all for Diaz is beyond me and I've listed that fight as THEE worst robbery I've seen.
This isn't the same Casamayor people have come to love, a few years back Casamayor beats both JMM and Pac at lightweight, probably KO'ing Pacquaio, and maybe JMM.
No though Pac ko's him.
Casamayor used to be a great fight who was almost equal with the underrated JLC and Diego Corrales. both of whom would destroy Pacman or JMM at lightweight.