Abner Mares
Roman Gonzalez
Yuriorkis Gamboa
Chad Dawson
Lucian Bute
Andre Berto
Juan Manuel Lopez
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Abner Mares
Roman Gonzalez
Yuriorkis Gamboa
Chad Dawson
Lucian Bute
Andre Berto
Juan Manuel Lopez
I like some of those guys like JML and Mares, and Berto obviously, but I haven't see Bute show me anything impressive to make me think he will be a really good fighter, but I haven't seen his last couple of fights. As for Chad, great skilled fighter, but we'll see he has a lot work.
I think Gamboa is a almost sure thing, if he can fight within reality. He knows his talent is out of this world, but he can't rely on that talent alone.
berto and gamboa def. i see paul williams being up there too if he can get some good fights
Good choises, definetly think Lopez, Gamboa and Mares got a hell of a chance. they look promising
Gamboa and Juanma are the most likely p4pers on your list and I'm leaning more towards Juanma.
Good list buddy.
Add Amir Khan to that list.:rolleyes:;D
I would like to add Alfredo Angulo to the list, if he can handle Tsurken's power in his next fight, I think he can handle just about anyone's power at 154 there isn't too long of a path to the top, nothing that I could see that could trouble him.Quote:
Originally Posted by ICB
Just looking back at this old post i made, i still haven't changed my mind about Lucian Bute. I still think he has it in him, to make the top 10 P4P. Abner Mares has been a bit slow recently, Roman Gonzalez will never make the top 10 P4P, unless he moves up even though he's impressive.Quote:
Originally Posted by ICB
As for the rest well Juan Manuel Lopez is almost there, Chad Dawson is there. Andre Berto could be there if he beats Shane Mosley, which i think he will. And Yuriorkis Gamboa could be there if he avoids Juan Manuel Lopez, atleast until he improves especially not being so wild and be more technical.
Cant see Berto being a permanent fixture in p4p standings to be honest, if he beats Shane does he enter top 10??Quote:
Originally Posted by ICB
I like the other choices not to sure about Gamboa either the others I agree.
dawson's already there.
Roman Gonzalez
Hasegawa
Erislandi Lara
Gamboa
JML
im not impressed with abner mares or berto.
Cannot see Gamboa on a p4p list in any fashion.Think he'll make or break claim on explosive power,way to eratic with many mistakes.
Good list and I'm going to throw a dark horse into the mix and pick Saul Alvarez as a future p4p fighter in the next couple years. I have checked him out after there was rumor of Mayweather possibly fighting him in Mexico probably hyping a newcomer but he defiantly has the tools to go far and he is only 19.
Bernard Hopkins. :cool:
NO FREAKING WAY!!! #1 Paul Williams #2 Sergio Martinez both destroy Angulo!Quote:
Originally Posted by killersheep
(love that sig by the way ;D)
Rigondeaux should be up there! Leaving him off is a tragedy.
I already thiink Dawson is a top 10 p4p , Andre Ward is also an addition. And Arthur Abraham is already on my list but if he beats Dirrell than he'g gotta get there
Remember folks, ICB posted his list over a year ago.
ohh, right, thanks for pointing that out. Good prediction then . Cheers ICB
My list is rather long but I think these fighters have the potential and skills to be top 10 p4p in the future:
Minimum - Roman Gonzalez, 24-0 20 KO's, Nicaragua - weight class might hurt him.
Jr. Fly - Giovanni Segura, 22-1-1 18 KO's, Mexico - great power for little guy.
Fly - Luis Concepcion, 19-1 14 KO's. Panama
Fly - Koki Kameda, 22-0 14 KO's, Japan
Fly - Hernan Marquez, 26-0 19 KO's, Mexico
Ban - Abner Mares, 19-0 12 KO's, Mexico
Ban - Hozumi Hasegawa, 27-2 11 KO's, Japan, Should be on list now
Ban - Chris Avalos, 13-0 10 KO's, USA
S. Ban - Juanma Lopez, 27-0 24 KO's, Puerto Rico
S. Ban - Wilfredo Vazquez Jr., 17-0-1 14 KO's, Puerto Rico
S. Ban - Rico Ramos, 14-0 8 KO's, USA
Feath - Yuriorkis Gamboa, 16-0 14 KO's, Cuba
S. Fea - Robert Guerrero, 25-1-1 17 KO's, USA
S. Fea - Juan Carlos Salgado, 21-0-1 15 KO's, Mexico
Light - Edwin Valero, 25-0 25 KO's, Venezuela
Light - Antonio DeMarco, 23-1-1 17 KO's, Mexico
Jr. Welt - Timothy Bradley, 24-0 11 KO's, USA
Jr. Welt - Marcos Rene Maidana, 27-1 26 KO's, Argentina
Jr. Welt - Victor Ortiz, 24-2-1 19 KO's, USA
Jr. Welt - Devon Alexander, 19-0 12 KO's, USA
Welter - Andre Berto, 25-0 19 KO's, USA
Welter - Saul Alvarez, 29-0-1 22 KO's, Mexico
Welter - Danny Garcia, 14-0 9 KO's, USA
Jr. Mid - Paul Williams, 37-1 27 KO's, USA, Is he there yet?
Jr. Mid - Yuri Foreman, 28-0 8 KO's, Belarus
Jr. Mid - James Kirkland, 25-0 22 KO's, USA
Jr. Mid - Alfredo Angulo, 17-1 14 KO's, Mexico
Jr. Mid - Vanes Martirosyan, 25-0 16 KO's, Armenia, very underrated
Jr. Mid - Joe Greene, 21-0 14 KO's, USA
Jr. Mid - Erislady Lara, 8-0 5 KO's, Cuba
Jr. Mid - Fernando Guerrero, 16-0 13 KO's, Dominican Rep.
S. Mid - Lucian Bute, 25-0 20 KO's, Romania, should be close now
S. Mid - David Lemieux, 19-0 19 KO's, Canada
S. Mid - Andre Ward, 21-0 13 KO's, USA
S. Mid - Andre Dirrell, 18-0 13 KO's, USA
S. Mid - Arthur Abraham, 31-0 25 KO's, Armenia, should be there already
Lt. Hea - Jean Pascal, 24-1 16 KO's, Haiti
Lt. Hea - Chad Dawson, 29-0 17 KO's, USA, should be there already
Lt. Hea - Tavoris Cloud, 20-0 18 KO's, USA
Heavy - David Haye, 23-1 21 KO's, UK
Heavy - Alexander Povetkin, 17-0 12 KO's, Russia
Heavy - Eddie Chambers, 35-1 18 KO's, USA
I probably missed some young contenders but there you go!
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Originally Posted by Pugilistic
AMIR KHAN SHOULD DEF BE ON THE LIST
Good list but i just cant see Povetkin or Chambers there EVER
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Originally Posted by ICB
ITS A GOOD LIST BUT YOU FERGOT BOUT PAUL WILLIAMS, JUAN DIAZ, CHIRS ARREOLA, ALFREDO ANGULO, DAVID HAYE, DANNY JACOBS, AMIR KAHN,
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Originally Posted by nyc champQuote:
Originally Posted by ICB
ITS A GOOD LIST BUT YOU FERGOT BOUT PAUL WILLIAMS, JUAN DIAZ, CHIRS ARREOLA, ALFREDO ANGULO, DAVID HAYE, DANNY JACOBS, AMIR KAHN,
What you been smoking mate??
Juan Diaz and Chris Arreola??
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Originally Posted by skel1983Quote:
Originally Posted by nyc champQuote:
Originally Posted by ICB
ITS A GOOD LIST BUT YOU FERGOT BOUT PAUL WILLIAMS, JUAN DIAZ, CHIRS ARREOLA, ALFREDO ANGULO, DAVID HAYE, DANNY JACOBS, AMIR KAHN,
What you been smoking mate??
Juan Diaz and Chris Arreola??
just kauze arreola ended up loosing to vitali dosent meen his run is done he can bounce back. also the same thing for diaz against marquez
i been smoking that purple haze :fyou:
Diaz lost badly to nate Campbell and 90% of people think he lost to Malinaggi he will never get anywhere near a p4p list, Arreola will never get near a p4p list he is a limited brawler.Quote:
Originally Posted by nyc champQuote:
Originally Posted by skel1983Quote:
Originally Posted by nyc champ
What you been smoking mate??
Juan Diaz and Chris Arreola??
just kauze arreola ended up loosing to vitali dosent meen his run is done he can bounce back. also the same thing for diaz against marquez
i been smoking that purple haze :fyou:
Dawson is, I think Lopez & Berto are on the periphery, somewhere at the bottom end of the Top 20. Gonzalez is just outside the Top 10 for me & Bute is very seriously knocking on the door. Not sure he's quite there yet, but he's close. Mares & Gamboa both have to beat top opponents to start getting there. Mares' career really seems to have slowed down over the last year, particularly since he split with Beristain.
OK I'll post this again
GUILLERMO RIGONDEAUX
Frankie Gavins a racing certainty.
im really excited about the young fighters comming through in britain rite now.
MIKE JONES
Can You dig it?