Should he rematch Margarito or take a tune up fight?
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Should he rematch Margarito or take a tune up fight?
Well apparently Cotto and Margarito are going to be fighting on the same night in I think it was december and should they both win apparently they have agreed to go again which I would be happy to see.
Can Cotto reverse the result? Well I don't think he can stop Marg but if he can keep his head for 12 rounds I think that he can outbox him and take a decision.
i think there both fighting early next year and have there rematch if they both win. and cotto needs to take his small ass to the gym get in way better condition work on his stamina and stay off the damn ropes and try to keep the fight in the middle of the ring and i watch the fight again last night i aint never seen no one move so much in one fight i dont even think ali did cotto needs to smartin up
i think this is definatley a fight cotto could win, he outclassed Margarito but he got to tired
Margarito and Cotto are set to fight again summer 09 so it would be one fight for each, then each other.
I personally think Cotto should take on Berto (after he beats Forbes) or Cintron. It puts his name back on the market in a big way!
an esay 1st fight then margarito or another title holder
I don't know what fight everyone was watching but Cotto was winning the fight until he ran out of gas!
Michelle Cotta should stay away from Magarito and Williams. Though I wouldn't mind seeing him get knocked out again. So make the rematch happen, I'm all for it.
That is sort of true, but I was watching Cotto winning on points against a solid brick wall that was just waiting to squash him at the right time and it did.Quote:
Originally Posted by NorthSideX4
Cotto needs a tune up before another Margarito.. :cool: He needs confidence boost before facing the beast of the division again..
As for Margarito on the other hand should fight Williams.. Margarito v Williams 2 will be for the WW best. and Margarito should forget Oscy cause it ain't gonna happen. Instead of bitching out he rather go after the man who owned him.. and that is Williams.. i don't know why there's very little on here talking about this fight.
If a rematch will immediately happen, the result would be like the 1st fight... Cotto must have tune up fight first...
I am telling you guys that fight just like Vargas vs Trinidad made Cotto damaged goods. If he fights Margarito he while end up like Vargas after Oscar got done with him knocked out. Think that Cotto should stay away from Margarito but if he wants to end his career so be it.
I think he goes right after the winner of Berto-Forbes...he should really work on his stamina and if he is able to do that he's got what it takes to beat Margarito.
Cotto shouldn't fight Cintron right away because Cintron while having a questionable heart has the biggest punch in the division and Cotto doesn't need to be thrown in with a guy like that for his first fight back.
Cotto won't be like Vargas because Vargas couldn't box worth a damn and he was in love with his power an therefore easy to counter. Cotto while having very good power still boxes at a very high level and he outboxed Margarito for 6 rounds.
Personally,I can not see a different outcome should the two rematch.For the most part,everything speculated and pointed to in initial lead up came to fruition on both sides.Cotto showed tremendous stick & move,top notch hand speed and accuracy.Margarito showed his overall strength & volume arsenal in company with great endurance.He's pretty crafty at tucking his elbows into his body & pin pointing that short upper-hook up & down Cottos side.
Maybe it's a bit simplistic but no need to over complicate things Imo.Bottom line,Cotto will have to detour and hurt Margarito repeatedly to win this.I believe if he looks to make this an inside grappling affair hoping to rip shots off and spin out ,Tony's all over strength will accumulate and again be overly taxing.And on the ropes,forget about it.Ive seen it repeatedly..."Cotto got winded,he got tired". Well,he reached that position for a reason,because Margarito was all over him from jump off point.Think Cause & effect.Cotto was not outboxed,he was out fought.I think Cotto can reclaim his status and go onto some great things but Imo,he should steer clear of Margarito.
It's not fair to Margarito to say that Cotto lost the fight because Cotto "got tired." That makes it seem like Cotto lost because he wasn't in shape.
Cotto was in great shape, he didn't lose because he "got tired," he lost because Margarito made him tired with an effective body/head attack.
Oh I'm not taking anything from Margarito by saying Cotto got tired...the pressure Tony put on Cotto pushed him to be that tired. I think Cotto also got his nose busted up as well making it harder for him to breathe but hey Margarito won fair and square and was very impressive to withstand those punches.
Had Cotto been more light on his feet he could have done more sticking and moving and less staying in the way of Tony's punches. But that being said Cotto sat down on his punches further tiring his legs out.
No he wasn't IMO i thought the fight was even going into the 11th, Cotto badly faded after the 6th round and lost majority of the rounds after that.Quote:
Originally Posted by NorthSideX4
I agree, Cotto was losing the fight when it was stopped, both in my mind and in those of the judges.Quote:
Originally Posted by ICBNo he wasn't IMO i thought the fight was even going into the 11th, Cotto badly faded after the 6th round and lost majority of the rounds after that.Quote:
Originally Posted by NorthSideX4
Cotto usually takes a round off here and there and when he took a round off vs Margarito that's when Tony jumped on him and Cotto had to keep moving and therefore never regained his power or his legs. But before the 7th round Cotto was taking Tony to school with counter shots and boxing skill. Margarito is a hell of a fighter no shame in losing to him.Quote:
Originally Posted by CFH
I don't think he took a round off, he was exhausted and beaten up, the signs were already there by the mid-point of the fight. I agree that Cotto was looking great up to the 6th round, but it was a 12 round fight and Margarito had complete beat the fight out of him by the time it was stopped.Quote:
Originally Posted by LyleCotto usually takes a round off here and there and when he took a round off vs Margarito that's when Tony jumped on him and Cotto had to keep moving and therefore never regained his power or his legs. But before the 7th round Cotto was taking Tony to school with counter shots and boxing skill. Margarito is a hell of a fighter no shame in losing to him.Quote:
Originally Posted by CFH
On the cards, He was behind by 2 points of two cards and even on the other. I agree with that scoring for the most part, he was losing to Margarito and would've lost a decision if he hadn't been stopped.
Then what are you disagreeing with?
Watch Cotto-Mosley you'll see Cotto took a couple rounds off but Mosley never did anything to pressure him and so Cotto was able to gather himself and close out strong. Margarito knew that and as soon as Cotto's volume of punches went down Tony stepped on the gas and that really helped him because he did it at exactly the right time...or else Tony doesn't win so many rounds and Cotto maybe squeaks out with a draw or even decision win.
I never said I was disagreeing with anything, but you make it sound like Cotto lost because he chose the wrong moment to take a round off. He lost because Margarito beat the shit out of him.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lyle
Margarito was pressuring him constantly, I don't think he stepped it up at just the right moment. It was just that by the 1/2 way point he had exhausted Cotto, and Cotto was no longer able to avoid his punches as well as he had previously.
Cotto got beaten by an excellent Margarito that night, its too early to suggest his career will go downhill.
He should take a moderate fight back then challenge for a belt
Cotto will fight a faded non puncher.
A Baldomir or Castillo would make sence.
Cotto should just keep on going with his career as normal. He is young and he is still one of the top dogs in the division. He don't need to stay away from nobody. He can beat them all. Margarito was just the better man that night but Cotto could be the better man next time...can you say triology??
Cotto has to show me he can box for 12 rounds to deserve the rematch, he also ran out of gas against Mosely who isn't as big as Tony. Maybe Mosely can get a rematch if he whoops Mayorga.
Basing from the result of the 1st fight, I don't think this match-up is going to a 3rd fight...Quote:
Originally Posted by The Rookie Fan
But even if it was a very convincing win by Margarito in the 1st fight, I agree that they should fight again to give Cotto a chance for redemption... or give Margarito the chance to totally silence or shut out Cotto...
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Cotto would not fight washed up guys at this stage, he is elite.Quote:
Originally Posted by Markusdarkus
Castillio just got belted around by Margaritos old sparring partner and Tony KO victim S. Lujan.He is put a fork in him done.Cotto can do much better.Quote:
Originally Posted by Markusdarkus
Not sure about that. Look at his resume. He didn't look that dominating against washed up guys like a past-his-prime Mosley and when he finally faced a ranked big name in his prime, look what happened.Quote:
Cotto would not fight washed up guys at this stage, he is elite.
Baldomir would be an acceptable opponent. Castillo would not be. Castillo is a rotting corpse and wouldn't last more than 2-3 rounds with Cotto, and he'd be lucky to last that long.Quote:
Originally Posted by Markusdarkus
A good match would be against someone like Urkal again. Someone half ass game, but no real threat. Baldomir wasn't a bad suggestion. But Baldomir is big and strong.