It appears Juan Manuel's next defense of his lightweight title will be against Juan Diaz - even though a better fight would be with Nate Campbell.
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It appears Juan Manuel's next defense of his lightweight title will be against Juan Diaz - even though a better fight would be with Nate Campbell.
I'd be happy with either fight. My initial thought is that Marquez is simply a class above Diaz and should take it.
Hopefully Campbell can land a big fight somewhere though, he's a class act and he's earned it.
This would be no surprise, GBP would rather keep it in house than go with Campbell and Don King.
Its an interesting fight though still.
Marquez is a true champion who ducks no-one and wants to fight the best.
Great fighter, legendary.
That really bothers me. I'm sure it's no different than what other promoters do, but it really pisses me off. Campbell has more than earned a shot at the winner of Casa/Marquez.Quote:
Originally Posted by OumaFan
Maybe he'll get the rematch with Casa, but I'd much rather see him fight Marquez.
GBP is not really helping boxing and its boxers... :mad:Quote:
Originally Posted by OumaFan
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Few promoters can do both.Quote:
Originally Posted by SaddoBoxerGBP is not really helping boxing and its boxers... :mad:Quote:
Originally Posted by OumaFan
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I think its a great fight though, so there's that ;D
Nate has a case there is no doubt.
This is basically where I stand. Campbell deserves a big fight and I hope he gets it. But I can't rip into Golden Boy either, because Marquez-Diaz does figure to be an entertaining fight.Quote:
Originally Posted by CFH
Boxers are whores... Promoters are pimps... Fans, the customers... :lolhaha:Quote:
Originally Posted by p4pkingFew promoters can do both.Quote:
Originally Posted by SaddoBoxerGBP is not really helping boxing and its boxers... :mad:Quote:
Originally Posted by OumaFan
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Great style match up i like both fighters alot so i would hate to see either fighter lose, but Diaz's aggressive style seems to be tailor made for Marquez's counter punching style, i see Marquez winning by 12 UD although he will be made to work hard.
The one I want in a big way is Marquez vs. Campbell.....NOW ;D
Diaz looked to rebound very well off brawl with Campbell,though frankly,Katsidis did a lot of rushing in and would just stop.Seemed confused and Diaz just ate him up.I like Marquez over Diaz.Marquez has been more aggressive the last few years but has retained his tremendous Counter ability as well.I have a hard time seeing Diaz hurting/backing up Marquez significantly........though I can see his punch volume cutting Marquez up ??Hmmm.
Whatever it is...
Nate-JMM
JMM-Diaz
Nate-Diaz II
Anyone of those is good by me.
I've got no problems.
Should of gave Casamayor his rematch first. But I can deal with Marquez-Diaz
Jmm Ud
JMM vs Campbell would be very interesting for me.:) Imagine JMM winning all the titles except the WBC which PAcquaio is currently holding. They have no other choice but to fight each other again.
If JMM wins against Pac then they will have to fight again to really settle the score. That means two more fights from them!!!:)
JMM should really fight Pac again coz his defeat against the Pacman will always stain his career.
Early prediction if the two fights again:
Pacman by TKO in the 5th round.:cool:
Maybe JMM should also try to avenge his defeat in the hands of Chris John... Talking about getting rid of the stains in his record... ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by brucelee
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Is that the only way to get rid of a stain? To beat the fighter who beat you? Guess Pac will always be tainted by his losses to Torrecampo and Singsurant. Since he never beat themQuote:
Originally Posted by SaddoBoxerMaybe JMM should also try to avenge his defeat in the hands of Chris John... Talking about getting rid of the stains in his record... ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by brucelee
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Anyway, anybody that's seen and knows Boxing knows Marquez was blatantly robbed against John. There's a reason John doesn't fight any where but there.
Walked into that one .... :bucktooth: .Contrary to belabored belief....the world does not revolve around p4p Manny.
Marquez is simply doing what I feel many expect of a top champion,cleaning house,fighting the top fighters, and reigning champions in a hotly contested division.Marquez has walked in & sitting in Pac's recliner....and Pac is going to the circus up the road :-X
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Originally Posted by Violent DemiseIs that the only way to get rid of a stain? To beat the fighter who beat you? Guess Pac will always be tainted by his losses to Torrecampo and Singsurant. Since he never beat themQuote:
Originally Posted by SaddoBoxerMaybe JMM should also try to avenge his defeat in the hands of Chris John... Talking about getting rid of the stains in his record... ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by brucelee
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Anyway, anybody that's seen and knows Boxing knows Marquez was blatantly robbed against John. There's a reason John doesn't fight any where but there.
If you ask anybody now if PAC needs to fight Torrecampo and Singsurat again, definitely their answer is a big NO... NO NEED...
But if you ask if JMM needs to fight Chris John again, I think majority of the answers will be a big YES...
See the difference...
You know who says yes? Pac groupies. The ones who don't want to see Marquez-Pac 3. Knowing Marquez really beat him. There the only ones who think Marquez should waste his time with John again. Everybody else knows Marquez was robbedQuote:
Originally Posted by SaddoBoxerQuote:
Originally Posted by Violent DemiseIs that the only way to get rid of a stain? To beat the fighter who beat you? Guess Pac will always be tainted by his losses to Torrecampo and Singsurant. Since he never beat themQuote:
Originally Posted by SaddoBoxer
Anyway, anybody that's seen and knows Boxing knows Marquez was blatantly robbed against John. There's a reason John doesn't fight any where but there.
If you ask anybody now if PAC needs to fight Torrecampo and Singsurat again, definitely their answer is a big NO... NO NEED...
But if you ask if JMM needs to fight Chris John again, I think majority of the answers will be a big YES...
See the difference...
PAC groupies?? I'm sure John groupies will be interested in a John-JMM rematch fight to shut up JMM's big mouth, always crying that he was robbed in Indonesia...Quote:
Originally Posted by Violent DemiseYou know who says yes? Pac groupies. The ones who don't want to see Marquez-Pac 3. Knowing Marquez really beat him. There the only ones who think Marquez should waste his time with John again. Everybody else knows Marquez was robbedQuote:
Originally Posted by SaddoBoxerQuote:
Originally Posted by Violent Demise
If you ask anybody now if PAC needs to fight Torrecampo and Singsurat again, definitely their answer is a big NO... NO NEED...
But if you ask if JMM needs to fight Chris John again, I think majority of the answers will be a big YES...
See the difference...
JMM groupies does not want the John rematch, afraid that their idol will be "robbed" again ... ;D
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In all honesty,where ever you stand,Marquez is riding a big promotion and in the main stream of the States.Respect to skilled Chris John but if you ask what rematch most would want to see / pay for....John is a distant 'Who' ? Imo, I do not see Manny returning to lightweight division after his DLH adventure.
I agree, PAC-JMM 3 is the most sought after fight... BTW, it's not a rematch and not even a rubbermatch... ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Spicoli surfs 'Nawlins
But we're just realistic here, after the Oscar fight, JMM is just a distant no. 3 or 4 on PAC's list... Better for JMM to get rid of that John's stain while PAC is still busy with Oscar, Hatton, PBF, etc.
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Even Jim Jones is rolling in his grave at this kool-aid drinking ?Your obsession and delussional thirst for Manny's Pac really stank it up:biteit: yawn.This ain't a slot machine.Not caring who's on Pac's bankroll list but more so who is the best lightweight in the world! And when is Mayweathers comeback fight?Quote:
Originally Posted by SaddoBoxerI agree, PAC-JMM 3 is the most sought after fight... BTW, it's not a rematch and not even a rubbermatch... ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Spicoli surfs 'Nawlins
But we're just realistic here, after the Oscar fight, JMM is just a distant no. 3 or 4 on PAC's list... Better for JMM to get rid of that John's stain while PAC is still busy with Oscar, Hatton, PBF, etc.
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Your not being realistic. Your being stupid. If you were being realistic you would know Marquez is now a Lightweight. While John is still a Featherweight. John has no intentions of moving up. And no desire to fight outside Indonesia. So for you to say Marquez needs to fight him, is again stupid.Quote:
Originally Posted by SaddoBoxerI agree, PAC-JMM 3 is the most sought after fight... BTW, it's not a rematch and not even a rubbermatch... ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Spicoli surfs 'Nawlins
But we're just realistic here, after the Oscar fight, JMM is just a distant no. 3 or 4 on PAC's list... Better for JMM to get rid of that John's stain while PAC is still busy with Oscar, Hatton, PBF, etc.
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You are more stupid by suggesting PAC to fight Torrecampo or Singsurat again... Only the most stupid of persons will mention such match-ups right now...Quote:
Originally Posted by Violent DemiseYour not being realistic. Your being stupid. If you were being realistic you would know Marquez is now a Lightweight. While John is still a Featherweight. John has no intentions of moving up. And no desire to fight outside Indonesia. So for you to say Marquez needs to fight him, is again stupid.Quote:
Originally Posted by SaddoBoxerI agree, PAC-JMM 3 is the most sought after fight... BTW, it's not a rematch and not even a rubbermatch... ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Spicoli surfs 'Nawlins
But we're just realistic here, after the Oscar fight, JMM is just a distant no. 3 or 4 on PAC's list... Better for JMM to get rid of that John's stain while PAC is still busy with Oscar, Hatton, PBF, etc.
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:lolhaha: Not only are you stupid. But you can't even read right. Show me exactly were I said Pac needs to fight Torrecampo or Singsurat again right now. It's obvious what i said early on went completely over your head.Quote:
Originally Posted by SaddoBoxerYou are more stupid by suggesting PAC to fight Torrecampo or Singsurat again... Only the most stupid of persons will mention such match-ups right now...Quote:
Originally Posted by Violent DemiseYour not being realistic. Your being stupid. If you were being realistic you would know Marquez is now a Lightweight. While John is still a Featherweight. John has no intentions of moving up. And no desire to fight outside Indonesia. So for you to say Marquez needs to fight him, is again stupid.Quote:
Originally Posted by SaddoBoxer
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If PAC beats Hoya and Hatton or Hoya beats PAC and Hatton, PBF might be tempted to comeback to fight PAC or Hoya... ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Spicoli surfs 'NawlinsEven Jim Jones is rolling in his grave at this kool-aid drinking ?Your obsession and delussional thirst for Manny's Pac really stank it up:biteit: yawn.This ain't a slot machine.Not caring who's on Pac's bankroll list but more so who is the best lightweight in the world! And when is Mayweathers comeback fight?Quote:
Originally Posted by SaddoBoxerI agree, PAC-JMM 3 is the most sought after fight... BTW, it's not a rematch and not even a rubbermatch... ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Spicoli surfs 'Nawlins
But we're just realistic here, after the Oscar fight, JMM is just a distant no. 3 or 4 on PAC's list... Better for JMM to get rid of that John's stain while PAC is still busy with Oscar, Hatton, PBF, etc.
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im not so upset with this match up but im pretty sure JMM will win but diaz aint no walk in da park he has a chance to win just like everybody does although a campbell fight will be great im sure the fight will happen next year but the diaz fight aint finalized yet there can still be a fight with campbell
Mentioning Torrecampo or Singsurat names alongside PAC right now really sounds stupid... ;DQuote:
Originally Posted by Violent Demise:lolhaha: Not only are you stupid. But you can't even read right. Show me exactly were I said Pac needs to fight Torrecampo or Singsurat again right now. It's obvious what i said early on went completely over your head.Quote:
Originally Posted by SaddoBoxerYou are more stupid by suggesting PAC to fight Torrecampo or Singsurat again... Only the most stupid of persons will mention such match-ups right now...Quote:
Originally Posted by Violent Demise
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At least John-JMM rematch will be another competitive fight...
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Shut up VD. You don't know what you're talking.:cool:Quote:
Originally Posted by Violent Demise:lolhaha: Not only are you stupid. But you can't even read right. Show me exactly were I said Pac needs to fight Torrecampo or Singsurat again right now. It's obvious what i said early on went completely over your head.Quote:
Originally Posted by SaddoBoxerYou are more stupid by suggesting PAC to fight Torrecampo or Singsurat again... Only the most stupid of persons will mention such match-ups right now...Quote:
Originally Posted by Violent Demise
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You are the biggest clown here saying that JMM should fight your beloved El Cepillo... Funny that you claim you know some boxing.
Marquez needs to fight some one. We know Pac is scared of him.Quote:
Originally Posted by bruceleeShut up VD. You don't know what you're talking.:cool:Quote:
Originally Posted by Violent Demise:lolhaha: Not only are you stupid. But you can't even read right. Show me exactly were I said Pac needs to fight Torrecampo or Singsurat again right now. It's obvious what i said early on went completely over your head.Quote:
Originally Posted by SaddoBoxer
You are the biggest clown here saying that JMM should fight your beloved El Cepillo.
December can't come fast enough. Once Oscar ICU's Pac it will be the end of you clowns. This forum will be rid of you, cock boy and the rest of these flip Pac groupies. The forum knows your not a boxing fan. Your a Pac groupie. Other than Pac you know nothing. That's been proven.
Okay CockBoxer, you have been annoying the $hit out of me for months, and I've kept my mouth shut, but myself, and everyone here is getting tired of your same old bull$hit! No wonder your retarded a$$ got banned from another forum.Quote:
Originally Posted by SaddoBoxerYou are more stupid by suggesting PAC to fight Torrecampo or Singsurat again... Only the most stupid of persons will mention such match-ups right now...Quote:
Originally Posted by Violent DemiseYour not being realistic. Your being stupid. If you were being realistic you would know Marquez is now a Lightweight. While John is still a Featherweight. John has no intentions of moving up. And no desire to fight outside Indonesia. So for you to say Marquez needs to fight him, is again stupid.Quote:
Originally Posted by SaddoBoxer
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Did you read the title of this thread? No? Well let me read it for you, it's called "Marquez-Diaz", and once again you have to turn it into a Pac thread, because that's all you do! You make everything to be about Pac!! I hate to even open up any boxing thread here, if I see you made a post, because I know your dumb a$$ is going to find some way to mention Pac. The boxing world does not evolve around Pac.
You go around calling people stupid, and have to put a :lolhaha: in almost all of your posts, because you think you are funny. But the joke is on you, because pretty much everyone here just laughs at your stupid a$$.
Why don't you try watching a fight that does not involve Pac, and try to actually learn something about boxing, because your superior stupidy is mind numbing.
Phewwwww, I've been wanting to say that $hit for soooo long now.
I feel better now. ;D
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Originally Posted by DianeOkay CockBoxer, you have been annoying the $hit out of me for months, and I've kept my mouth shut, but myself, and everyone here is getting tired of your same old bull$hit! No wonder your retarded a$$ got banned from another forum.Quote:
Originally Posted by SaddoBoxerYou are more stupid by suggesting PAC to fight Torrecampo or Singsurat again... Only the most stupid of persons will mention such match-ups right now...Quote:
Originally Posted by Violent Demise
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Did you read the title of this thread? No? Well let me read it for you, it's called "Marquez-Diaz", and once again you have to turn it into a Pac thread, because that's all you do! You make everything to be about Pac!! I hate to even open up any boxing thread here, if I see you made a post, because I know your dumb a$$ is going to find some way to mention Pac. The boxing world does not evolve around Pac.
You go around calling people stupid, and have to put a :lolhaha: in almost all of your posts, because you think you are funny. But the joke is on you, because pretty much everyone here just laughs at your stupid a$$.
Why don't you try watching a fight that does not involve Pac, and try to actually learn something about boxing, because your superior stupidy is mind numbing.
Phewwwww, I've been wanting to say that $hit for soooo long now.
I feel better now. ;D
Sorry but I didn't start this name calling... Review the thread Miss Diane and let's see who started this name calling... ;)
SaddoBoxer check your PM's.
I will MOD Mick...Quote:
Originally Posted by CutMeMick
Like it's the end of you in this forum when JMM KOed "The toothbrush"?;DQuote:
Originally Posted by Violent DemiseMarquez needs to fight some one. We know Pac is scared of him.Quote:
Originally Posted by bruceleeShut up VD. You don't know what you're talking.:cool:Quote:
Originally Posted by Violent Demise
You are the biggest clown here saying that JMM should fight your beloved El Cepillo.
December can't come fast enough. Once Oscar ICU's Pac it will be the end of you clowns. This forum will be rid of you, cock boy and the rest of these flip Pac groupies. The forum knows your not a boxing fan. Your a Pac groupie. Other than Pac you know nothing. That's been proven.
I'll reserve full judgement on the outcome until I see Diaz and Marquez fights this month.
Gut feeling says Diaz though on Pts
Pac groupies are on another level :rolleyes: And people say Calzaghe and Hatton groupies are bad :o