Oscar De la Hoya Enlists Nacho Beristain As Trainer For His Showdown With Pacquiao

Oscar De la Hoya Enlists Nacho Beristain As Trainer For His Showdown With Pacquiao
Press Release
9/23/2008


LOS ANGELES, September 23 – With a little over two months to go before his epic showdown with Manny Pacquiao on December 6th at MGM Grand Garden Arena in Las Vegas, Oscar de la Hoya has made perhaps the most important decision of his career, bringing in trainer of champions, the legendary Ignacio “Nacho” Beristain, to prepare him for the attack of the “Pac-Man”.

“Nacho Beristain is a great trainer who I have respected for many years and I’m honored to have him in my corner,” said De La Hoya. “In addition to his great tactical mind and considering that he prepared Juan Manuel Marquez for two fights against Manny Pacquiao, he knows him very well. I’m confident that with Nacho’s gameplan and my execution, we’ll be victorious on December 6th.”

“Oscar de la Hoya is one of the premier fighters of this era and I am excited about working with him for this very important fight,” said Beristain. “I already have a plan in mind for beating Pacquiao and I know Oscar will do whatever it takes to carry that plan through on fight night.”

A member of the World Boxing Hall of Fame, Beristain is widely considered to be one of the best trainers to ever come out of Mexico. The man in the corner of world champions Ricardo “Finito” Lopez, Gilberto Roman, Daniel “Chato” Zaragoza, Humberto “Chiquita” Gonzalez, Melchor Cob Castro, Beristain may be best known for his work with current superstars Juan Manuel Marquez and his brother Rafael Marquez. Now he will lead “The Golden Boy” into one of the biggest fights of his life.

De La Hoya vs. Pacquiao is presented by Golden Boy Promotions and Top Rank and will take place on Saturday, December 6 at MGM Grand Garden Arena in Las Vegas, Nevada and will be produced and distributed live by HBO Pay-Per-View.

Tickets for De La Hoya vs. Pacquiao go on sale this Wednesday, September 24 at 1 p.m. ET / 10 a.m. PT and are priced at $1,500, $1,000, $750, $500, $250 and $150, not including applicable taxes and service charges. Ticket sales are limited to two (2) per person at each price level with a total ticket limit of four (4) per person. To charge by phone with a major credit card, call Ticketmaster at (702) 474-4000. Tickets also are available for purchase at Las Vegas - Entertainment - Hotel - Resort - Casinos - Vacation : MGM Grand Hotel & Casino or Tickets for Concerts, Sports, Arts, Theater, Family, Events, more. Official Ticketmaster site. Tickets will be sold via Ticketmaster phones and website only. There will be no sales at MGM Grand or any Ticketmaster outlets.

The De La Hoya vs. Pacquiao pay-per-view telecast, beginning at 9 p.m. ET / 6 p.m. PT, will be produced and distributed by HBO Pay-Per-View and will be available to more than 71 million pay-per-view homes. The telecast will be available in HD-TV for those viewers who can receive HD. HBO Pay-Per-View is the leading supplier of event programming to the pay-per-view industry. For De La Hoya vs. Pacquiao fight week updates, log on to HBO Online.

Good move but at this stage of DLH's career there won't be much Beristain will change apart from strategy. More of a mind game thing IMO.

Maybe an indication that DelaHoya is not under estimating the PACMAN by getting a very good trainer for this fight...

Floyd Sr. said that whoever trains DelaHoya, Hoya still wins over PAC... I guess Oscar is not buying what Floyd Sr. stated...

But I think Team Pacquiao still has the edge in the battle of the trainers even if Beristain is with Team Hoya... Roach having trained Hoya in the past is an advantage for Team PAC...
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Maybe an indication that DelaHoya is not under estimating the PACMAN by getting a very good trainer for this fight...

Floyd Sr. said that whoever trains DelaHoya, Hoya still wins over PAC... I guess Oscar is not buying what Floyd Sr. stated...

But I think Team Pacquiao still has the edge in the battle of the trainers even if Beristain is with Team Hoya... Roach having trained Hoya in the past is an advantage for Team PAC...
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That maybe the only advantage Pac has...

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Maybe an indication that DelaHoya is not under estimating the PACMAN by getting a very good trainer for this fight...

Floyd Sr. said that whoever trains DelaHoya, Hoya still wins over PAC... I guess Oscar is not buying what Floyd Sr. stated...

But I think Team Pacquiao still has the edge in the battle of the trainers even if Beristain is with Team Hoya... Roach having trained Hoya in the past is an advantage for Team PAC...
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That maybe the only advantage Pac has...

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... for the trainers, as for the boxers, it's generally accepted that PAC has the speed and stamina advantages over Hoya...
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I think Manny Pacquiao has got more chance of getting shit out of a rocking horse, than winning this fight.

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I think Manny Pacquiao has got more chance of getting shit out of a rocking horse, than winning this fight.

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I vehemently disagree...

I think Manny Pacquiao has got more chance of winning this fight, than getting shit out of a rocking horse.

From Yahoo Sports website poll:

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I think Manny Pacquiao has got more chance of getting shit out of a rocking horse, than winning this fight.

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I vehemently disagree...

I think Manny Pacquiao has got more chance of winning this fight, than getting shit out of a rocking horse.

From Yahoo Sports website poll:

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Thanks for that Saddoboxer thats put my faith back into the public.

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I think Manny Pacquiao has got more chance of getting shit out of a rocking horse, than winning this fight.

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I vehemently disagree...

I think Manny Pacquiao has got more chance of winning this fight, than getting shit out of a rocking horse.

From Yahoo Sports website poll:

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Thanks for that Saddoboxer thats put my faith back into the public.

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Well it's expected that PAC will lose this fight (I give him 50% chance of winning) but still many people not totally writing off PAC's chances...

If you're a knowledgeable boxing fan, you knew pretty well that anything can happen in boxing...

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I think Manny Pacquiao has got more chance of getting shit out of a rocking horse, than winning this fight.

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I vehemently disagree...

I think Manny Pacquiao has got more chance of winning this fight, than getting shit out of a rocking horse.

From Yahoo Sports website poll:

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Thanks for that Saddoboxer thats put my faith back into the public.

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Wherever you go, poll results will look the same... The general public, the casual boxing fans think that PAC will KO Hoya... You have to start to live with that...

http://img91.imageshack.us/img91/5285/phpol2ld9.jpg

Gee, i thought he was going to hire Rubio!

Well aside from giving him great pointers during the fight and some type of strategy that's about all he can bring.

Everything else is up to ODLH.

Maybe Nacho can teach Hoya on how to stand up/recover from a PAC knockdown.... ;D

(joke joke ;D don't shoot me :lolhaha: )
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Maybe Nacho can teach Hoya on how to stand up/recover from a PAC knockdown.... ;D

(joke joke ;D don't shoot me :lolhaha: )
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Your joke coupled with your avatar is really funny.;D

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I vehemently disagree...

I think Manny Pacquiao has got more chance of winning this fight, than getting shit out of a rocking horse.

From Yahoo Sports website poll:

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Thanks for that Saddoboxer thats put my faith back into the public.

:Sarcasm:

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Wherever you go, poll results will look the same... The general public, the casual boxing fans think that PAC will KO Hoya... You have to start to live with that...

http://img91.imageshack.us/img91/5285/phpol2ld9.jpg

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Live with what ? my two comments said on this thread you should of taken with a pinch of salt. I was clearly being sarcastic and joking and you have to live with that ;D

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I think Manny Pacquiao has got more chance of getting shit out of a rocking horse, than winning this fight.

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I vehemently disagree...

I think Manny Pacquiao has got more chance of winning this fight, than getting shit out of a rocking horse.

From Yahoo Sports website poll:

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Proably some filipino hackers... <_< Whoever the hell is voting i wish would take their money to the bookies because my friend if they put those odds i would fucking bet my house, car, live savings everything i own on Oscar. Keep in mind when I say my house i mean parents house <_<

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But I think Team Pacquiao still has the edge in the battle of the trainers even if Beristain is with Team Hoya... Roach having trained Hoya in the past is an advantage for Team PAC...

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Beristain beating Pac twice (with Marquez) may be an advantage for Oscar. Add to that the fact that he seems to have more advantages than Marquez (reach, power, weight, etc.).

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Thanks for that Saddoboxer thats put my faith back into the public.

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Wherever you go, poll results will look the same... The general public, the casual boxing fans think that PAC will KO Hoya... You have to start to live with that...

http://img91.imageshack.us/img91/5285/phpol2ld9.jpg

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Live with what ? my two comments said on this thread you should of taken with a pinch of salt. I was clearly being sarcastic and joking and you have to live with that ;D

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Can you live with this comment from the great Panamanian boxer, Roberto Duran?

"I am leaning toward Pacquiao. I like De La Hoya, he has been a great fighter ... But he has not been very active in recent years. Pacquiao has been extremely active. It seems like he is always training and fighting."

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I think Manny Pacquiao has got more chance of getting shit out of a rocking horse, than winning this fight.

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I vehemently disagree...

I think Manny Pacquiao has got more chance of winning this fight, than getting shit out of a rocking horse.

From Yahoo Sports website poll:

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Proably some filipino hackers... <_< Whoever the hell is voting i wish would take their money to the bookies because my friend if they put those odds i would fucking bet my house, car, live savings everything i own on Oscar. Keep in mind when I say my house i mean parents house <_<

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;D How cruel of you. That would make your parents homeless this December.LOl;D

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Wherever you go, poll results will look the same... The general public, the casual boxing fans think that PAC will KO Hoya... You have to start to live with that...

http://img91.imageshack.us/img91/5285/phpol2ld9.jpg

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Live with what ? my two comments said on this thread you should of taken with a pinch of salt. I was clearly being sarcastic and joking and you have to live with that ;D

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Can you live with this comment from the great Panamanian boxer, Roberto Duran?

"I am leaning toward Pacquiao. I like De La Hoya, he has been a great fighter ... But he has not been very active in recent years. Pacquiao has been extremely active. It seems like he is always training and fighting."

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He must be punch drunk :-X

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Live with what ? my two comments said on this thread you should of taken with a pinch of salt. I was clearly being sarcastic and joking and you have to live with that ;D

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Can you live with this comment from the great Panamanian boxer, Roberto Duran?

"I am leaning toward Pacquiao. I like De La Hoya, he has been a great fighter ... But he has not been very active in recent years. Pacquiao has been extremely active. It seems like he is always training and fighting."

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He must be punch drunk :-X

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So all those who pick PAC to win this fight are all punch drunks? Including me, MOD CutMeMick and many others... ;) (MOD CMM, sorry for mentioning your name/pick here...)
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I vehemently disagree...

I think Manny Pacquiao has got more chance of winning this fight, than getting shit out of a rocking horse.

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Proably some filipino hackers... <_< Whoever the hell is voting i wish would take their money to the bookies because my friend if they put those odds i would fucking bet my house, car, live savings everything i own on Oscar. Keep in mind when I say my house i mean parents house <_<

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;D How cruel of you. That would make your parents homeless this December.LOl;D

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What a joke 40% of the people who polled know little about boxing ........ I can not wait to see the Pac Pinata get wacked and all the nuthuggers falling out on the floor

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I vehemently disagree...

I think Manny Pacquiao has got more chance of winning this fight, than getting shit out of a rocking horse.

From Yahoo Sports website poll:

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Proably some filipino hackers... <_< Whoever the hell is voting i wish would take their money to the bookies because my friend if they put those odds i would fucking bet my house, car, live savings everything i own on Oscar. Keep in mind when I say my house i mean parents house <_<

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;D How cruel of you. That would make your parents homeless this December.LOl;D

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It would be a revelation if it were from a source that is linked to a panelist of panelist with boxing knowlege. What is next Glamour magazine pro Pac posts?

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Can you live with this comment from the great Panamanian boxer, Roberto Duran?

"I am leaning toward Pacquiao. I like De La Hoya, he has been a great fighter ... But he has not been very active in recent years. Pacquiao has been extremely active. It seems like he is always training and fighting."

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He must be punch drunk :-X

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So all those who pick PAC to win this fight are all punch drunks? Including me, MOD CutMeMick and many others... ;) (MOD CMM, sorry for mentioning your name/pick here...)
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I know for 100 percent Mick would never pick Pacquiao over ODLH, because he is a massive ODLH fan, Duran is punch drunk after 100 wars in the ring thats his excuse, whats yours ? ;D

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Proably some filipino hackers... <_< Whoever the hell is voting i wish would take their money to the bookies because my friend if they put those odds i would fucking bet my house, car, live savings everything i own on Oscar. Keep in mind when I say my house i mean parents house <_<

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;D How cruel of you. That would make your parents homeless this December.LOl;D

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What a joke 40% of the people who polled know little about boxing ........ I can not wait to see the Pac Pinata get wacked and all the nuthuggers falling out on the floor

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at least 40% of the 18,388 people who voted for Pac to win will be suffering with us. that's 7, 355.2 people. LOL.

If pac wins, there will be great rejoicing in the Philippines and I will come back here with a very low result in the prediction contest coz I will be voting for OLDH to win by UD(or TKO, depending on Pac's conditioning). But i can assure you that I will be humble with Pac's victory like in the past. .... and you however, will still be coming here to discount any achievement Pac has done..... of course, that's the way losers act and think.:rolleyes:

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He must be punch drunk :-X

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So all those who pick PAC to win this fight are all punch drunks? Including me, MOD CutMeMick and many others... ;) (MOD CMM, sorry for mentioning your name/pick here...)
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I know for 100 percent Mick would never pick Pacquiao over ODLH, because he is a massive ODLH fan, Duran is punch drunk after 100 wars in the ring thats his excuse, whats yours ? ;D

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Mick posted this on the other thread:

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SSM UD
Berto UD
Vitaly TKO
BCD UD
Pavlik MD
RJJ SD
Taylor UD
Hatton-Paulie Draw
Pac UD

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link --> http://www.saddoboxing.com/boxingfor...st-2008-a.html

You mean Mick not serious in picking PAC by UD? Or you're just afraid to label Mick a "punch drunk"?

Me? I got no excuse...
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So all those who pick PAC to win this fight are all punch drunks? Including me, MOD CutMeMick and many others... ;) (MOD CMM, sorry for mentioning your name/pick here...)
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I know for 100 percent Mick would never pick Pacquiao over ODLH, because he is a massive ODLH fan, Duran is punch drunk after 100 wars in the ring thats his excuse, whats yours ? ;D

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Mick posted this on the other thread:

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SSM UD
Berto UD
Vitaly TKO
BCD UD
Pavlik MD
RJJ SD
Taylor UD
Hatton-Paulie Draw
Pac UD

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You mean Mick not serious in picking PAC by UD? Or you're just afraid to label Mick a "punch drunk"?

Me? I got no excuse...
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That must be a mistake but either way i couldn't careless im just having a bit of fun ;D

And my orignal comment about the rocking horse still stands ;D

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He must be punch drunk :-X

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So all those who pick PAC to win this fight are all punch drunks? Including me, MOD CutMeMick and many others... ;) (MOD CMM, sorry for mentioning your name/pick here...)
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I know for 100 percent Mick would never pick Pacquiao over ODLH, because he is a massive ODLH fan, Duran is punch drunk after 100 wars in the ring thats his excuse, whats yours ? ;D

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No ICB. I've read his reasons why he (CMM) is picking on Pacquaio to win and I think it is logical and reasonable.:cool:

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;D How cruel of you. That would make your parents homeless this December.LOl;D

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What a joke 40% of the people who polled know little about boxing ........ I can not wait to see the Pac Pinata get wacked and all the nuthuggers falling out on the floor

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at least 40% of the 18,388 people who voted for Pac to win will be suffering with us. that's 7, 355.2 people. LOL.

If pac wins, there will be great rejoicing in the Philippines and I will come back here with a very low result in the prediction contest coz I will be voting for OLDH to win by UD(or TKO, depending on Pac's conditioning). But i can assure you that I will be humble with Pac's victory like in the past. .... and you however, will still be coming here to discount any achievement Pac has done..... of course, that's the way losers act and think.:rolleyes:

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It's not only 18,388 people Mr. Bruce... It's now 63,994 people picking PAC to win with 44,383 people picking PAC to stop (KO?) DelaHoya... ;D

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okay. I stand corrected with your updates.:cool:

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What a joke 40% of the people who polled know little about boxing ........ I can not wait to see the Pac Pinata get wacked and all the nuthuggers falling out on the floor

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at least 40% of the 18,388 people who voted for Pac to win will be suffering with us. that's 7, 355.2 people. LOL.

If pac wins, there will be great rejoicing in the Philippines and I will come back here with a very low result in the prediction contest coz I will be voting for OLDH to win by UD(or TKO, depending on Pac's conditioning). But i can assure you that I will be humble with Pac's victory like in the past. .... and you however, will still be coming here to discount any achievement Pac has done..... of course, that's the way losers act and think.:rolleyes:

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It's not only 18,388 people Mr. Bruce... It's now 63,994 people picking PAC to win with 44,383 people picking PAC to stop (KO?) DelaHoya... ;D

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Wow you created all those accounts and voted ? ;D

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I know for 100 percent Mick would never pick Pacquiao over ODLH, because he is a massive ODLH fan, Duran is punch drunk after 100 wars in the ring thats his excuse, whats yours ? ;D

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Mick posted this on the other thread:

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SSM UD
Berto UD
Vitaly TKO
BCD UD
Pavlik MD
RJJ SD
Taylor UD
Hatton-Paulie Draw
Pac UD

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You mean Mick not serious in picking PAC by UD? Or you're just afraid to label Mick a "punch drunk"?

Me? I got no excuse...
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That must be a mistake but either way i couldn't careless im just having a bit of fun ;D

And my orignal comment about the rocking horse still stands ;D

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Your rocking horse comment will make you popular since it reflects much of your boxing knowledge...

In boxing anything can happen and it's really foolish to totally write off one boxers' chances...

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at least 40% of the 18,388 people who voted for Pac to win will be suffering with us. that's 7, 355.2 people. LOL.

If pac wins, there will be great rejoicing in the Philippines and I will come back here with a very low result in the prediction contest coz I will be voting for OLDH to win by UD(or TKO, depending on Pac's conditioning). But i can assure you that I will be humble with Pac's victory like in the past. .... and you however, will still be coming here to discount any achievement Pac has done..... of course, that's the way losers act and think.:rolleyes:

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It's not only 18,388 people Mr. Bruce... It's now 63,994 people picking PAC to win with 44,383 people picking PAC to stop (KO?) DelaHoya... ;D

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Wow you created all those accounts and voted ? ;D

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That's all you can say? Why don't you show here a poll with at least a thousand votes where Hoya is winning?
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You mean Mick not serious in picking PAC by UD? Or you're just afraid to label Mick a "punch drunk"?

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That must be a mistake but either way i couldn't careless im just having a bit of fun ;D

And my orignal comment about the rocking horse still stands ;D

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Your rocking horse comment will make you popular since it reflects much of your boxing knowledge...

In boxing anything can happen and it's really foolish to totally write off one boxers' chances...

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Hitting a nerve am i ? ;D

Funny how you wind people up but can't handle it back ;D

And one last thing even if i had a coma right now, then woke up 2 weeks later and had forgotten half of the boxing i know right now, i would still know much more than you, don't punch above your weight because your lose big time, my little deluded Pac fan ;)

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It's not only 18,388 people Mr. Bruce... It's now 63,994 people picking PAC to win with 44,383 people picking PAC to stop (KO?) DelaHoya... ;D

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Wow you created all those accounts and voted ? ;D

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That's all you can say? Why don't you show here a poll with at least a thousand votes where Hoya is winning?
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Yep thats all i can say ;D

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That must be a mistake but either way i couldn't careless im just having a bit of fun ;D

And my orignal comment about the rocking horse still stands ;D

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Your rocking horse comment will make you popular since it reflects much of your boxing knowledge...

In boxing anything can happen and it's really foolish to totally write off one boxers' chances...

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Hitting a nerve am i ? ;D

Funny how you wind people up but can't handle it back ;D

And one last thing even if i had a coma right now, then woke up 2 weeks later and had forgotten half of the boxing i know right now, i would still know much more than you, don't punch above your weight because your lose big time, my little deluded Pac fan ;)

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If you are really knowledgeable about boxing (as what you claimed), you should not make comments like that for it will only make you look foolish...

Some boxing greats were picking Pacquiao while others picked Hoya (and they're not writing off PAC's chances)... But you giving PAC no chance at all? It's laughable... ;D
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Your rocking horse comment will make you popular since it reflects much of your boxing knowledge...

In boxing anything can happen and it's really foolish to totally write off one boxers' chances...

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Hitting a nerve am i ? ;D

Funny how you wind people up but can't handle it back ;D

And one last thing even if i had a coma right now, then woke up 2 weeks later and had forgotten half of the boxing i know right now, i would still know much more than you, don't punch above your weight because your lose big time, my little deluded Pac fan ;)

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If you are really knowledgeable about boxing (as what you claimed), you should not make comments like that for it will only make you look foolish...

Some boxing greats were picking Pacquiao while others picked Hoya (and they're not writing off PAC's chances)... But you giving PAC no chance at all? It's laughable... ;D
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What is laughable is that you clearly can't take anything with a pinch of salt when you yourself have wound up Marquez fans constantly, all of my comments on this topic have been sarcastic and im just having bit of fun, you took it too serious even when i told you this, hence why this has gotten a tad heated............

If you want my honest opinion i don't think Manny Pacquiao has much of chance, even though he is a great fighter. His speed will be his only advantage but even that will slow quite a bit with him moving up in weight. And his power will be much less effective because he won't dent iron chinned ODLH at Welterweight, ODLH is far too big and strong. For little Manny Pacquiao, this match up was considered a joke last year i don't know why some people are considering it to be a good match up now...........

ODLH has some stamina issues but do you really think Manny Pacquiao, will be able to come forward and really test those issues ? because IMO if Manny Pacquiao has any chance of winning he will have to fight on the backfoot where he will be even less effective, because he is a much better fighter at coming forward than he is on the backfoot........

Plus even if Manny Pacquiao averaged at 146 for his last fight which will be close to his limit for the ODLH fight, how much do you think ODLH will average ? he was one stone heavier than Floyd Mayweather at 154, so ODLH will easily average 160 or close to it for his fight with Manny Pacquiao, which sounds like disaster for Manny Pacquiao to me.

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Hitting a nerve am i ? ;D

Funny how you wind people up but can't handle it back ;D

And one last thing even if i had a coma right now, then woke up 2 weeks later and had forgotten half of the boxing i know right now, i would still know much more than you, don't punch above your weight because your lose big time, my little deluded Pac fan ;)

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If you are really knowledgeable about boxing (as what you claimed), you should not make comments like that for it will only make you look foolish...

Some boxing greats were picking Pacquiao while others picked Hoya (and they're not writing off PAC's chances)... But you giving PAC no chance at all? It's laughable... ;D
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What is laughable is that you clearly can't take anything with a pinch of salt when you yourself have wound up Marquez fans constantly, all of my comments on this topic have been sarcastic and im just having bit of fun, you took it too serious even when i told you this, hence why this has gotten a tad heated............

If you want my honest opinion i don't think Manny Pacquiao has much of chance, even though he is a great fighter. His speed will be his only advantage but even that will slow quite a bit with him moving up in weight. And his power will be much less effective because he won't dent iron chinned ODLH at Welterweight, ODLH is far too big and strong. For little Manny Pacquiao, this match up was considered a joke last year i don't know why some people are considering it to be a good match up now...........

ODLH has some stamina issues but do you really think Manny Pacquiao, will be able to come forward and really test those issues ? because IMO if Manny Pacquiao has any chance of winning he will have to fight on the backfoot where he will be even less effective, because he is a much better fighter at coming forward than he is on the backfoot........

Plus even if Manny Pacquiao averaged at 146 for his last fight which will be close to his limit for the ODLH fight, how much do you think ODLH will average ? he was one stone heavier than Floyd Mayweather at 154, so ODLH will easily average 160 or close to it for his fight with Manny Pacquiao, which sounds like disaster for Manny Pacquiao to me.

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:appl: Good analysis...

As what I thought, you don't really need to resort to "rocking horse" tactic or calling great boxers "punch drunk" in order to drive your point... ;D
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And his power will be much less effective because he won't dent iron chinned ODLH at Welterweight, ODLH is far too big and strong

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I was thinking the other day, if Mayorga connected ODLH with some nice clean uppercuts and straight rights to his jaw and chin without really hurting him, what can we expect from Pac? Unless Pac has more punching power than Mayorga.
The casual fan doesn’t see the weight difference here so it doesn't surprise me to see all those polls with people voting that Pac will completely annihilate Oscar. Let's see what happens. In boxing there's always the element of surprise.