with his fight with Calzaghe comming up soon, where would you place him if he beats Joe???
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with his fight with Calzaghe comming up soon, where would you place him if he beats Joe???
i dont know or really care. i just want him to win:-X
well i doubt he will
Yes no question IMO.
In my opinion yes.
I think Roy will win, and yes, he deserves to placed somewhere back in the hight top 10 Lb4Lb.
I think Roy will pull this one off due to how hard of a time that Joe had with B-Hop.
No of course not. For RJJ to win, this would have to mean a serious deteriation in Calzaghes talents. Meaning RJJ is still nowhere near top 10 P4P.
A RJJ win would be the upset of the decade so far.
If you knock off #2 pound 4 pound, no matter the circumstances, you deserve at least a #10 pound for pound spot.
Upset of the decade please...... :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by richard (mossley)
So who gets knocked off from the top 10 list because Roy wins? It depends on what the top 10 current P4P fighters do aswell surely?Quote:
Originally Posted by lance Uppercut
P4P list's do my head in personally, all i know is if RJJ wins. He would seal the deal on his legacy, and he would retire one of the best fighters of all time. Plus it would be one of the best achievements for an almost 40 year old.Quote:
Originally Posted by KelSo who gets knocked off from the top 10 list because Roy wins? It depends on what the top 10 current P4P fighters do aswell surely?Quote:
Originally Posted by lance Uppercut
Same here lol. It would be a great win though as Joe is more of his old self than Roy is (well thats an obvious statement I know) so a RJJ win is far more impressive than a Calzaghe win.Quote:
Originally Posted by ICBP4P list's do my head in personally, all i know is if RJJ wins. He would seal the deal on his legacy, and he would retire one of the best fighters of all time. Plus it would be one of the best achievements for an almost 40 year old.Quote:
Originally Posted by KelSo who gets knocked off from the top 10 list because Roy wins? It depends on what the top 10 current P4P fighters do aswell surely?Quote:
Originally Posted by lance Uppercut
I was thinking about this the other day. If Roy wins he probably will go into the Rings top 10 p4p fighters and I think I would have to agree because if it was someone like Jermain Taylor who is still quite young that beat Joe he would go into the top 10 so why not Roy?
Here's my current P4P list.
Pac
JMM
Joe
Izzy
Hopkins
Margarito
Pav
Mijares
Rafa
Cotto
If RJJ won I would drop Cotto from the list and place RJJ at #10.
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Originally Posted by richard (mossley)
get off of joes sack before you get pregnant. and upset of the decade boi stop i think you need to watch more fighters than calzaghe :fyou:
Good list! But where would you place Joe after the fight should he lose?Quote:
Originally Posted by CutMeMick
Exactly what I was going to type. If RJJ wins he should definitely be a top 10 p4p. Probably in the 5-10 range.Quote:
Originally Posted by lance Uppercut
Yeah thats my thinking! Definitely has to make the list but in the bottom 5Quote:
Originally Posted by TigerFanExactly what I was going to type. If RJJ wins he should definitely be a top 10 p4p. Probably in the 5-10 range.Quote:
Originally Posted by lance Uppercut
Joe would go to 7th or 8th place .:cool:Quote:
Originally Posted by rjj tszyuGood list! But where would you place Joe after the fight should he lose?Quote:
Originally Posted by CutMeMick
And lets start to look at the evidence.Quote:
Originally Posted by kingfrnkQuote:
Originally Posted by richard (mossley)
get off of joes sack before you get pregnant. and upset of the decade boi stop i think you need to watch more fighters than calzaghe :fyou:
Roy Jones Jr will not win by decision, thats fantasy. his only hope is that he stops Calzaghe. This is something Jones Jr has been unable to do in 6 (SIX) YEARS. Thats right his last KO was in 2002.
His last fight, he could not even manage to knock out a blown up welter weight. This would be the upset of the decade for Jones to win.
I see nothing other than a Calzaghe KO.
I find p4p list's make me dizzy but off the top I don't think so.Fighters in the top ten should be evaluated on there most resent accomplishments and fights,not so much there past victory's and past skills,which in Jones case are undeniable.A change in one's division rankings is one thing and sensible but p4p should be consistent,fighting at there peak best and on paper matched up with every other fighter out there for comparison Imo.
Ditto.Quote:
Originally Posted by lance Uppercut
Surely he would be placed higher than Hopkins right? especially if Hopkins loses to Pavlik.Quote:
Originally Posted by GalaxyYeah thats my thinking! Definitely has to make the list but in the bottom 5Quote:
Originally Posted by TigerFanExactly what I was going to type. If RJJ wins he should definitely be a top 10 p4p. Probably in the 5-10 range.Quote:
Originally Posted by lance Uppercut
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Originally Posted by richard (mossley)And lets start to look at the evidence.Quote:
Originally Posted by kingfrnkQuote:
Originally Posted by richard (mossley)
get off of joes sack before you get pregnant. and upset of the decade boi stop i think you need to watch more fighters than calzaghe :fyou:
Roy Jones Jr will not win by decision, thats fantasy. his only hope is that he stops Calzaghe. This is something Jones Jr has been unable to do in 6 (SIX) YEARS. Thats right his last KO was in 2002.
His last fight, he could not even manage to knock out a blown up welter weight. This would be the upset of the decade for Jones to win.
I see nothing other than a Calzaghe KO.
just incase you havent noticed kid this fight is USA there not gonna stop the fight just cause its gonna look like calzaghe slappin him to death idiot
Definitely. But he wont.
Wow, way to not give credit where it would be due. If Roy wins it only means Calzaghe's suddenly way over-the-hill?Quote:
Originally Posted by richard (mossley)
Unless Calzaghe just stands there and let's Roy punch him to death I say Jones makes the p4p list if he wins.
In answer to the topic title . YES cuz he would have beaten the best p4p fighter IMO . Also when Oscar knocks out Pac he will break back into the top 10
And that is really the only realistic way RJJ can win. Calzaghe on a bad day beat Hopkins. RJJ, a man who has knocked noone out in SIX years should be a breaze. Who did RJJ fight last? A blown up welterweight, thats comedy preparation for Calzaghe.Quote:
Originally Posted by KillfaceWow, way to not give credit where it would be due. If Roy wins it only means Calzaghe's suddenly way over-the-hill?Quote:
Originally Posted by richard (mossley)
Unless Calzaghe just stands there and let's Roy punch him to death I say Jones makes the p4p list if he wins.
that blown up welter weight has a better name than anyone on calzaghes resume except for hopkins. and its clear you didnt watch the fight with hopkins, calzaghe landed nothing clean got knocked down in the 1st and fought a bhops pace. boi stopQuote:
Originally Posted by richard (mossley)And that is really the only realistic way RJJ can win. Calzaghe on a bad day beat Hopkins. RJJ, a man who has knocked noone out in SIX years should be a breaze. Who did RJJ fight last? A blown up welterweight, thats comedy preparation for Calzaghe.Quote:
Originally Posted by KillfaceWow, way to not give credit where it would be due. If Roy wins it only means Calzaghe's suddenly way over-the-hill?Quote:
Originally Posted by richard (mossley)
Unless Calzaghe just stands there and let's Roy punch him to death I say Jones makes the p4p list if he wins.
yes and thats all trinidad was a name........
Yeah if Pavlik beats Hopkins & Jones beats Calzaghe I'd expect it to look something like this:Quote:
Originally Posted by killersheepSurely he would be placed higher than Hopkins right? especially if Hopkins loses to Pavlik.Quote:
Originally Posted by GalaxyYeah thats my thinking! Definitely has to make the list but in the bottom 5Quote:
Originally Posted by TigerFan
3 Pavlik
4 Vazquez
5 Margarito
6 Jones
7 Calzaghe
8 Hopkins
If Pavlik crushes B-Hop he may fall out altogether making way for my boy Calderon to re-enter!!!
Are you off your meds? do you honestly believe that a past it RJJ facing a well past it Felix Trinidad is more of a risk than Calzaghe taking on KesslerQuote:
Re: Does RJJ make the top 10 P4P if he wins???
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Originally Posted by richard (mossley)
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Originally Posted by Killface
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Originally Posted by richard (mossley)
No of course not. For RJJ to win, this would have to mean a serious deteriation in Calzaghes talents. Meaning RJJ is still nowhere near top 10 P4P.
A RJJ win would be the upset of the decade so far.
Wow, way to not give credit where it would be due. If Roy wins it only means Calzaghe's suddenly way over-the-hill?
Unless Calzaghe just stands there and let's Roy punch him to death I say Jones makes the p4p list if he wins.
And that is really the only realistic way RJJ can win. Calzaghe on a bad day beat Hopkins. RJJ, a man who has knocked noone out in SIX years should be a breaze. Who did RJJ fight last? A blown up welterweight, thats comedy preparation for Calzaghe.
that blown up welter weight has a better name than anyone on calzaghes resume except for hopkins. and its clear you didnt watch the fight with hopkins, calzaghe landed nothing clean got knocked down in the 1st and fought a bhops pace. boi stop
RJJ needs to turn back time in an unprecedented way to dominate Calzaghe I have seen nothing in the last few years from RJJ that beats Calzaghe
Calzaghe by Wide UD and if RJJ pulls a Rocky then he deserves to be in the top 10 P4P for whatever that means
On the cross. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by gudnite vienna
If Roy Wins, he will declare himself one of the greatest, if not the greatest, of all time. If he loses, he will say he's still too tired from the weight drop :rolleyes:
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Originally Posted by kingfrnkthat blown up welter weight has a better name than anyone on calzaghes resume except for hopkins. and its clear you didnt watch the fight with hopkins, calzaghe landed nothing clean got knocked down in the 1st and fought a bhops pace. boi stopQuote:
Originally Posted by richard (mossley)And that is really the only realistic way RJJ can win. Calzaghe on a bad day beat Hopkins. RJJ, a man who has knocked noone out in SIX years should be a breaze. Who did RJJ fight last? A blown up welterweight, thats comedy preparation for Calzaghe.Quote:
Originally Posted by Killface
As I wrote fighting Trinidand was comedy preperation for fighting someone of Joes stature.
This fight was a total mismatch and America should be ashamed for (i) not stopping the fight after the 9th round when RJJ couldnt even see and (ii) staging this pantomine.