Foreman was one of the best HW of the 90s and the 90s was one of the best eras for the HWs.
So how would Big George do against the bums...Imean fighters of today.
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Foreman was one of the best HW of the 90s and the 90s was one of the best eras for the HWs.
So how would Big George do against the bums...Imean fighters of today.
Hard to say,he almost proved a plodding style would work,and he had a huge punch.
I can see anyone giving him major problems,but I could see a couple of good fights in there
Without getting too into it we always have to remember one thing with George....He can change the scene of the big men with just one punch even if he is getting his ass kicked!!!!....
They say power is the last thing to go....I always wanted to see Georges prime power against today's crop!!!!! They would lay down like bowling pins....
Prime George would be murderQuote:
Originally Posted by DaxxKahn
George Foreman vs Mike Tyson = Foreman by KO early Tyson didn't have the head movement in the 90s, so this would basically beat a repeat of Foreman vs Frazier the 2nd fight.
George Foreman vs Evander Holyfield = Well we see what happened when the older Foreman went up against a prime Holyfield. And i think Foreman won 4 rounds and he hurt Holyfield badly in spots. I see the fight going similar with Holyfield outboxing Foreman, but this time when Foreman hurts Holyfield he finishes him off round about the 8th round.
George Foreman vs Riddick Bowe = Tough one but i don't think Riddick Bowe fared too well against, Heavyweights who were as big as him. See Tony Tubbs, Tyrell Biggs, Andrew Golota. They all gave Riddick Bowe trouble and i don't think Riddick Bowe's chin was that solid either, plus he liked to fight on the inside, which would be suicidial against Foreman, i see Foreman stopping Bowe in 6.
George Foreman vs Lennox Lewis = Lennox Lewis would have the best chance against Foreman, style wise he is a nightmare for Foreman. And i can see Lewis giving Foreman a boxing lesson over 12 rounds, but i can also see Lewis losing his concentration which he often did at times. And i see Foreman laying out Lewis while behind on points. Tough one to call could go either way.
Whoops i misread the title i thought it said Foreman vs the 90s Heavyweights my bad. But anyway Vitali and Wladimir would be the worst style match up for Foreman, but i see Foreman stopping Vitali in 7 and Wladimir in 3. All the other Heavyweights get crushed no question.
very wellklits stand the best chance but still think george wins, the vitaly that fought lennox would be a 50/50 fight not a great style match for big george
Vitali Klitschko gets very overrated for his fight against Lennox Lewis, Lewis was out of shape and fought possibly one of the worst fights of his career. Vitali may have an iron chin but he keeps his left hand too low and he would get clocked against Foreman sooner or later.Quote:
Originally Posted by gally
Just from a matchup POV, I could see Tony Thompson giving Ol' George a good fight if he used his reach. He showed pretty good chin against Wlad, until Wlad finally caught him, but Wlad moves better than old George and is probably a little busier. I could see this one going to the cards.
Wlad probably has the toolkit to beat the old Foreman if he fought a boring fight and just used his reach to jab him all night, but if he made one mistake it would be curtains.
George did lose pretty clearly to Tommy Morrison who is good but not great, and Morrison, while not china-chined, doesn't have a granite chin.
James Toney would be an interesting matchup. It's hard to imagine Toney getting himself caught flush and he would be able to fight at the pace he likes and pepper him with counters.
I would favor old Foreman against the whole division except Wlad, and I would probably make Wlad a 65-35 favorite.
Just let out a few inches in the belt as Im sure he'd be wearing it ;D,Wlad on size alone would be a major problem but jab vs. Jab,Foremans hands down Imo.None of that extended floating stuff.....Foremans was like a straight howitzer coming in.
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Originally Posted by ICB
You see the 90's version of George Foreman stopping Vitali in 7 and Wlad in 3? :confused:
The 90's version?
The slow, fat, plodding version that was barely more impressive then then the 21st century Holyfield but that got lucky with a freak punch against Michael Moorer to win a world title at 45?
That George Foreman?
There is no way the Foreman that beat Moorer would KO Vitali and Wlad, both of them would keep on the outside and jab their ways to comfortable points decisions.
Now a prime George Foreman would have whupped their asses but the 45 year old George Foreman wouldn't do anything against Wlad and Vitali.
Why does it have to be the 45 year old version ? why not the George Foreman that gave Evander Holyfield a hell of a fight in 1991 ? and you know what makes me laugh Bilbo is you say the old slow plodding George Foreman, but Samuel Peter is basically a very poor man's George Foreman and he had Wladimir Klitschko on the canvas 3 times. If Samuel Peter can do that then im sure George Foreman can and actually finish the job unlike Samuel Peter.Quote:
Originally Posted by BilboQuote:
Originally Posted by ICB
You see the 90's version of George Foreman stopping Vitali in 7 and Wlad in 3? :confused:
The 90's version?
The slow, fat, plodding version that was barely more impressive then then the 21st century Holyfield but that got lucky with a freak punch against Michael Moorer to win a world title at 45?
That George Foreman?
There is no way the Foreman that beat Moorer would KO Vitali and Wlad, both of them would keep on the outside and jab their ways to comfortable points decisions.
Now a prime George Foreman would have whupped their asses but the 45 year old George Foreman wouldn't do anything against Wlad and Vitali.
As for Vitali Klitschko i question his heart. He quit against Chris Byrd, and Vitali Klitschko couldn't even beat a slow plodding out of shape Lennox Lewis, who was basically reduced to the same speed as an old Foreman. Vitali Klitschko is very overrated and i don't think he is anywhere near Wladimir Klitschko skill wise, i think Vitali Klitschko is there to be hit. And even though George Foreman is old he can still bang and not even, Vitali Klitschko's chin could stand up to Foreman's power.
The Klitschko's would beat Foreman....George was losing to Michael Moorer...George got outboxed by Tommy Morrison....George got beat by Shannon Briggs.....the Klitschko's are far better than all those guys
You may be right about Wlad, as far as Vitali goes, I'll reserve judgement until after this weekend, I think the 90s Foreman still was good enough to at least grab a strap in today's standards.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lyle
I think Wlad would maybe have been beaten as Big George could still bang but Vitali would have won a decision I reckon.
George Foreman was 47 years old against Shannon Briggs and it was his last fight, plus by the sounds of it you haven't seen the fight. Because George Foreman was robbed against Shannon Briggs, thats why there was an investigation regarding the decision.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lyle
Michael Moorer and Tommy Morrison are much faster than both of the Klitschko brothers, Tommy Morrison had to use his feet for 12 rounds. And Michael Moorer used quick handspeed and decent movement and fought the best fight of his career. None of the Klitschko brothers are good movers, and there punches are robotic like.
If you look at the videos on YOUTUBE George had decent handspeed by todays standards.He also used his size to push guys around and ware them down.Quote:
Originally Posted by BilboQuote:
Originally Posted by ICB
You see the 90's version of George Foreman stopping Vitali in 7 and Wlad in 3? :confused:
The 90's version?
The slow, fat, plodding version that was barely more impressive then then the 21st century Holyfield but that got lucky with a freak punch against Michael Moorer to win a world title at 45?
That George Foreman?
There is no way the Foreman that beat Moorer would KO Vitali and Wlad, both of them would keep on the outside and jab their ways to comfortable points decisions.
Now a prime George Foreman would have whupped their asses but the 45 year old George Foreman wouldn't do anything against Wlad and Vitali.
The 90s George had problems with good movers so I think he might have a few problems against Klitchko but apart from him I think he stands a good chance against any of todays HW.
i think he can beat them, the foreman of the 90s had a chin. so u would have to outbox him to win.
The Klit brothers would beat that Gerorge, in fact he would not have fought them. He stands a better chance against the others but do not think he could beat Valuev either. The faster defensive boxers would also pose him a lot of trouble.
I don't know about Klitschko bros. They have proved that they can both get a bit macho difference is that when Wlad does it he gets KO'd so if he did that against Ol' George he would def be staring at the ceiling. Same with Vitali he doesn't mind being punched and he has always taken it very well but he has never fought anyone who punches like George. Do you know why? because no-one has ever punched like George.Quote:
Originally Posted by BilboQuote:
Originally Posted by ICB
You see the 90's version of George Foreman stopping Vitali in 7 and Wlad in 3? :confused:
The 90's version?
The slow, fat, plodding version that was barely more impressive then then the 21st century Holyfield but that got lucky with a freak punch against Michael Moorer to win a world title at 45?
That George Foreman?
There is no way the Foreman that beat Moorer would KO Vitali and Wlad, both of them would keep on the outside and jab their ways to comfortable points decisions.
Now a prime George Foreman would have whupped their asses but the 45 year old George Foreman wouldn't do anything against Wlad and Vitali.
I'd go for two decision win for the Brothers as long as they stayed out of the way of his power shots (especially Wlad)