Was the Peter Klitschko fight the most partisan of all time?

I couldn't believe Vitali's ring entrance, having 5 of probably the top 8 greatest heavyweights of all time, Foreman, Frasier, Lewis, Tyson and Holyfield all sending him personal messages and urging him to win the fight and then Michael Buffer announcing the reigning champ Sam Peter as being there to 'spoil the party' has there ever been a more partisan display of bias before a big fight in recent memory?

What is it with the champ emiritus and the respect he has throughout the boxing world?

It was as if he was the Messiah or King arthur having just drawn the sword from the stone I've never witnessed such a bizarre outbreak of love for a fighter before, let alone one who hadn't fought in 4 years.

What did everyone else make of it?

I was gutted for Sam Peter, I really wanted him to smash Klit's face in just to silence all the Vitali manlove that was going on, did anyone else get wound up by it?

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Originally Posted by Bilbo

I couldn't believe Vitali's ring entrance, having 5 of probably the top 8 greatest heavyweights of all time, Foreman, Frasier, Lewis, Tyson and Holyfield all sending him personal messages and urging him to win the fight and then Michael Buffer announcing the reigning champ Sam Peter as being there to 'spoil the party' has there ever been a more partisan display of bias before a big fight in recent memory?

What is it with the champ emiritus and the respect he has throughout the boxing world?

It was as if he was the Messiah or King arthur having just drawn the sword from the stone I've never witnessed such a bizarre outbreak of love for a fighter before, let alone one who hadn't fought in 4 years.

What did everyone else make of it?

I was gutted for Sam Peter, I really wanted him to smash Klit's face in just to silence all the Vitali manlove that was going on, did anyone else get wound up by it?

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I love intelligent fighters. What's not to love on Klits?;D;D;D

Yeah it did seem a bit weird especially when the Pussycat dolls started singing;D
I was bored silly watching the fight too....

The pussycat dolls are singers ? i watched the build up to the fight and i thought they were 5 hookers with fire ants in their panties.but singers NO!!

i like vitali's fighting style better than vlad's. Vitali would have beat lewis if not for his eye. The man is a really good fighter.

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Originally Posted by Bilbo

I couldn't believe Vitali's ring entrance, having 5 of probably the top 8 greatest heavyweights of all time, Foreman, Frasier, Lewis, Tyson and Holyfield all sending him personal messages and urging him to win the fight and then Michael Buffer announcing the reigning champ Sam Peter as being there to 'spoil the party' has there ever been a more partisan display of bias before a big fight in recent memory?

What is it with the champ emiritus and the respect he has throughout the boxing world?

It was as if he was the Messiah or King arthur having just drawn the sword from the stone I've never witnessed such a bizarre outbreak of love for a fighter before, let alone one who hadn't fought in 4 years.

What did everyone else make of it?

I was gutted for Sam Peter, I really wanted him to smash Klit's face in just to silence all the Vitali manlove that was going on, did anyone else get wound up by it?

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Had nothing to dow tih champion emirtius. It was in germnay where the klits are big, simple as that. the 5 fighters done it coz they got paid lol you think they done it because the wanted to?

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Originally Posted by awdleyfuturehalloffamer

i like vitali's fighting style better than vlad's. Vitali would have beat lewis if not for his eye. The man is a really good fighter.

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Congratulations on the most stupid comment in recent memory. That's like saying, Spinks would've beaten Tyson if he hadn't got knocked out. Beating a guy's face so bad that he has to be pulled out by the doctor after 6 rounds impresses me far more than if Lewis had've won a 12 round jab fest. He did a job on Klitchko, look at their faces after the fight and tell me who won. :rolleyes:

I thought the entrance was really shite. Corny and embarassing. Saying that, I dont have any particular dislike for the Klitchkos

Great entrance and performance by Vitali, Klit got hammered by Lewis, he never entered the ring with those cuts lewis did it with his fists so that is no excuse.

I thought the pussy dolls were rubbish.....need a better class of performance than them

The ring entrance was good but a little over the top and sad to see Tyson look so fat

Samuel Peters performance was a total let down but fair play to Vitali

*Also the audience was a little quiet and caused the atmosphere to be a little low...maybe the arena was too big to appreciate the crowd

I just enjoyed the fact that Vit clinched twice in the entire fight.
Take notes, Wlad.

Well keep in mind the fight did happen in Vitali's adoptive home of Germany. I'm sure you'd see a similar amount of bias if Hatton/Malignaggi were to happen in England.

But yeah, I felt bad for Sam because he really had the cards stacked against him. But goddamn, those 5 legends really bet on the right horse hahaha

I thought that Vitali should have been more aggresive and tried to KO Peter. It seemed to me that V. wanted to stave Sam Peter off more than fight him.

Maybe that is too much to ask after the layoff.

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Originally Posted by Beanflicker

Well keep in mind the fight did happen in Vitali's adoptive home of Germany. I'm sure you'd see a similar amount of bias if Hatton/Malignaggi were to happen in England.

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Exactly. Vitali was the home fighter. Watch an Arthur Abraham-card and you'll see something completely similar, although this was obviously taken to the next level.

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Originally Posted by BIG H

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Originally Posted by awdleyfuturehalloffamer

i like vitali's fighting style better than vlad's. Vitali would have beat lewis if not for his eye. The man is a really good fighter.

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Congratulations on the most stupid comment in recent memory. That's like saying, Spinks would've beaten Tyson if he hadn't got knocked out. Beating a guy's face so bad that he has to be pulled out by the doctor after 6 rounds impresses me far more than if Lewis had've won a 12 round jab fest. He did a job on Klitchko, look at their faces after the fight and tell me who won. :rolleyes:

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Say what you want but Lewis backed out of the rematch and I know why and so does he.;)

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Originally Posted by Bilbo

I couldn't believe Vitali's ring entrance, having 5 of probably the top 8 greatest heavyweights of all time, Foreman, Frasier, Lewis, Tyson and Holyfield all sending him personal messages and urging him to win the fight and then Michael Buffer announcing the reigning champ Sam Peter as being there to 'spoil the party' has there ever been a more partisan display of bias before a big fight in recent memory?

What is it with the champ emiritus and the respect he has throughout the boxing world?

It was as if he was the Messiah or King arthur having just drawn the sword from the stone I've never witnessed such a bizarre outbreak of love for a fighter before, let alone one who hadn't fought in 4 years.

What did everyone else make of it?

I was gutted for Sam Peter, I really wanted him to smash Klit's face in just to silence all the Vitali manlove that was going on, did anyone else get wound up by it?

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I agree 100% it was a bunch of BS...Like he was the Messiah of the sport...Good analogy

The whole emiritus thing is a bunch of shit........

I think Peter may have bought into the perceived "Formalities" of fighting King Vitali.He showed no fire.The dancing was all theater,brought back the bad memories of HBO's "KO Nation" and that chessy wrestling atmosphere.

I missed the whole ring entrances and all that. I caught it with 1 minute left in the first round. I had some bad food and couldn't watch the begining in time

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Originally Posted by Beanflicker

Well keep in mind the fight did happen in Vitali's adoptive home of Germany. I'm sure you'd see a similar amount of bias if Hatton/Malignaggi were to happen in England.

But yeah, I felt bad for Sam because he really had the cards stacked against him. But goddamn, those 5 legends really bet on the right horse hahaha

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Yeah I'm aware it was his adopted homeland but all the great champs urging him to victory were American (who knows what the hell nationality Lennox is)

But imagine if Hatton's next big fight at home that Ray Leonard, Roberto Duran, Wilfred Benitez, Kosta Tyszu and Julio Ceasar Chavez all gave him personal messages of support and urged him to get the win, it would be freaking weird to me :-\

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Originally Posted by Spicoli surfs 'Nawlins

I think Peter may have bought into the perceived "Formalities" of fighting King Vitali.He showed no fire.The dancing was all theater,brought back the bad memories of HBO's "KO Nation" and that chessy wrestling atmosphere.

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I do not like the white canvas at all! For some reason the white throws me off. It's too bright and distracts me from the fight. Nor do I like white gloves. They give the illusion of hyper-speed and make it harder for me to judge a fight.

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Originally Posted by BoxingGorilla

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Originally Posted by Spicoli surfs 'Nawlins

I think Peter may have bought into the perceived "Formalities" of fighting King Vitali.He showed no fire.The dancing was all theater,brought back the bad memories of HBO's "KO Nation" and that chessy wrestling atmosphere.

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I do not like the white canvas at all! For some reason the white throws me off. It's too bright and distracts me from the fight. Nor do I like white gloves. They give the illusion of hyper-speed and make it harder for me to judge a fight.

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It was dizzying.The revolving camera (at times you felt like you were sitting in the cheap seats so far away) added with the blurry canvas had me swaying back and forth ;D.

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Originally Posted by USA LOVES THE KLITSCHOS

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Originally Posted by BIG H

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Originally Posted by awdleyfuturehalloffamer

i like vitali's fighting style better than vlad's. Vitali would have beat lewis if not for his eye. The man is a really good fighter.

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Congratulations on the most stupid comment in recent memory. That's like saying, Spinks would've beaten Tyson if he hadn't got knocked out. Beating a guy's face so bad that he has to be pulled out by the doctor after 6 rounds impresses me far more than if Lewis had've won a 12 round jab fest. He did a job on Klitchko, look at their faces after the fight and tell me who won. :rolleyes:

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Say what you want but Lewis backed out of the rematch and I know why and so does he.;)

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Yea coming from you who is totally 100 percent unbiased when it comes to the Klitschko's :rolleyes:

The fact is Lennox Lewis threw a punch it landed and it cut Vitali Klitschko's eye, people make out it was some sort of freak occurence.

Vitali Klitschko was the one who was holding on for dear life at the end of the 6th round. And it doesn't really matter whether or not Lennox Lewis retired, because he didn't want to end up like other past greats. Losing when he is past his prime, or because he didn't fancy a rematch against Vitali Klitschko.

All that matters is when they fought Lennox Lewis won, and the fact that Lennox Lewis was almost 40 years old. Out of shape and sluggish, and still pulled out the win adds to his greatness, he would be foolish to come out of retirement now.

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Originally Posted by USA LOVES THE KLITSCHOS

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Originally Posted by BIG H

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Originally Posted by awdleyfuturehalloffamer

i like vitali's fighting style better than vlad's. Vitali would have beat lewis if not for his eye. The man is a really good fighter.

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Congratulations on the most stupid comment in recent memory. That's like saying, Spinks would've beaten Tyson if he hadn't got knocked out. Beating a guy's face so bad that he has to be pulled out by the doctor after 6 rounds impresses me far more than if Lewis had've won a 12 round jab fest. He did a job on Klitchko, look at their faces after the fight and tell me who won. :rolleyes:

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Say what you want but Lewis backed out of the rematch and I know why and so does he.;)

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Because he dominated the sport for a decade, beat everyman he ever faced, was Olympic, British, European, Commonwealth and Undisputed world champion, ruined the only real threat left, inside 6 rounds and because he was way past his best - yes mate I think we all know ;)

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Originally Posted by DaxxKahn

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Originally Posted by Bilbo

I couldn't believe Vitali's ring entrance, having 5 of probably the top 8 greatest heavyweights of all time, Foreman, Frasier, Lewis, Tyson and Holyfield all sending him personal messages and urging him to win the fight and then Michael Buffer announcing the reigning champ Sam Peter as being there to 'spoil the party' has there ever been a more partisan display of bias before a big fight in recent memory?

What is it with the champ emiritus and the respect he has throughout the boxing world?

It was as if he was the Messiah or King arthur having just drawn the sword from the stone I've never witnessed such a bizarre outbreak of love for a fighter before, let alone one who hadn't fought in 4 years.

What did everyone else make of it?

I was gutted for Sam Peter, I really wanted him to smash Klit's face in just to silence all the Vitali manlove that was going on, did anyone else get wound up by it?

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I agree 100% it was a bunch of BS...Like he was the Messiah of the sport...Good analogy

The whole emiritus thing is a bunch of shit........

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I would agree with you all except: after his showing and how shitty the supposed "current champion" was......it really was like he had always been a real title holder and took some time off.

I thought it was a bit theatrical......but Sam Peter's fat ass didn't even attempt to win that fight. Hell John Ruiz would have been a better fight.

All I am saying is this: If you are going to have all that bullshit, you better bring the goods. And it appeared like he brought them.

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Originally Posted by boozeboxer

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Originally Posted by DaxxKahn

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Originally Posted by Bilbo

I couldn't believe Vitali's ring entrance, having 5 of probably the top 8 greatest heavyweights of all time, Foreman, Frasier, Lewis, Tyson and Holyfield all sending him personal messages and urging him to win the fight and then Michael Buffer announcing the reigning champ Sam Peter as being there to 'spoil the party' has there ever been a more partisan display of bias before a big fight in recent memory?

What is it with the champ emiritus and the respect he has throughout the boxing world?

It was as if he was the Messiah or King arthur having just drawn the sword from the stone I've never witnessed such a bizarre outbreak of love for a fighter before, let alone one who hadn't fought in 4 years.

What did everyone else make of it?

I was gutted for Sam Peter, I really wanted him to smash Klit's face in just to silence all the Vitali manlove that was going on, did anyone else get wound up by it?

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I agree 100% it was a bunch of BS...Like he was the Messiah of the sport...Good analogy

The whole emiritus thing is a bunch of shit........

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I would agree with you all except: after his showing and how shitty the supposed "current champion" was......it really was like he had always been a real title holder and took some time off.

I thought it was a bit theatrical......but Sam Peter's fat ass didn't even attempt to win that fight. Hell John Ruiz would have been a better fight.

All I am saying is this: If you are going to have all that bullshit, you better bring the goods. And it appeared like he brought them.

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He was definitely impressive, I just want to know why all the American greats were eulogizing to him?

I know there are no American greats out there right now but surely Foreman, Frazier, Holyfield and Tyson should be supporting one of their own rather than a Russian/Ukraine/German fella?

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Originally Posted by Bilbo

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Originally Posted by boozeboxer

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Originally Posted by DaxxKahn

I agree 100% it was a bunch of BS...Like he was the Messiah of the sport...Good analogy

The whole emiritus thing is a bunch of shit........

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I would agree with you all except: after his showing and how shitty the supposed "current champion" was......it really was like he had always been a real title holder and took some time off.

I thought it was a bit theatrical......but Sam Peter's fat ass didn't even attempt to win that fight. Hell John Ruiz would have been a better fight.

All I am saying is this: If you are going to have all that bullshit, you better bring the goods. And it appeared like he brought them.

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He was definitely impressive, I just want to know why all the American greats were eulogizing to him?

I know there are no American greats out there right now but surely Foreman, Frazier, Holyfield and Tyson should be supporting one of their own rather than a Russian/Ukraine/German fella?

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Seems like we've been waiting awile over here for the "Next coming".If I were Chambers and Arreola though,I would not be waiting on a call from that group.Hey, do you think they asked Lewis to be a part of the coronation ;D ?

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Originally Posted by awdleyfuturehalloffamer

i like vitali's fighting style better than vlad's. Vitali would have beat lewis if not for his eye. The man is a really good fighter.

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Congratulations on the most stupid comment in recent memory. That's like saying, Spinks would've beaten Tyson if he hadn't got knocked out. Beating a guy's face so bad that he has to be pulled out by the doctor after 6 rounds impresses me far more than if Lewis had've won a 12 round jab fest. He did a job on Klitchko, look at their faces after the fight and tell me who won. :rolleyes:

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Lewis was getting his ass kicked until the cut happened, then the fight evened out a little. Yeah the cut was caused by a punch, but if the cut didn't happen Lewis would never have won.

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Originally Posted by awdleyfuturehalloffamer

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Originally Posted by awdleyfuturehalloffamer

i like vitali's fighting style better than vlad's. Vitali would have beat lewis if not for his eye. The man is a really good fighter.

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Congratulations on the most stupid comment in recent memory. That's like saying, Spinks would've beaten Tyson if he hadn't got knocked out. Beating a guy's face so bad that he has to be pulled out by the doctor after 6 rounds impresses me far more than if Lewis had've won a 12 round jab fest. He did a job on Klitchko, look at their faces after the fight and tell me who won. :rolleyes:

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Lewis was getting his ass kicked until the cut happened, then the fight evened out a little. Yeah the cut was caused by a punch, but if the cut didn't happen Lewis would never have won.

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Lennox Lewis was only losing 4 rounds to 2 and he had his best round, in the 6th round where Vitali Klitschko was holding on for dear life at the end of the round.

Sometimes Lennox Lewis was a slow starter he was behind against Frank Bruno, Ray Mercer, Shannon Briggs, before he caught up with them.

Infact you could make an argument that Ray Mercer, was giving Lennox Lewis a harder fight than Vitali Klitschko did. And Lennox Lewis was not far off his prime against Ray Mercer either.

I like Vitali Klitschko but he gets very overrated for only winning 4 rounds to 2, against an old out of shape Lennox Lewis.

And as for your last comment again its ridiculous, there are no if's in boxing especially when Lennox Lewis threw a punch. It connected and it cut Vitali Klitschko's eye, its not like it was a lucky punch or a freak occurence. You could say what if in any boxing fight in history its just silly logic IMO.

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Originally Posted by awdleyfuturehalloffamer

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Originally Posted by awdleyfuturehalloffamer

i like vitali's fighting style better than vlad's. Vitali would have beat lewis if not for his eye. The man is a really good fighter.

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Congratulations on the most stupid comment in recent memory. That's like saying, Spinks would've beaten Tyson if he hadn't got knocked out. Beating a guy's face so bad that he has to be pulled out by the doctor after 6 rounds impresses me far more than if Lewis had've won a 12 round jab fest. He did a job on Klitchko, look at their faces after the fight and tell me who won. :rolleyes:

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Lewis was getting his ass kicked until the cut happened, then the fight evened out a little. Yeah the cut was caused by a punch, but if the cut didn't happen Lewis would never have won.

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A cut so severe is a stoppage. What don't you get about that? If Lewis was cut that bad it would be stopped also.

Really? what else can you say about it? Tell me for fucks sake because some of these comments are pissing me off

Vitali has never been knocked down or out and I don't think it was going to happen that night. It's too bad Hasim Rahman didn't take his win and retire after he knocked Lewis out denying him a rematch after all he did knock his ass out, it was not a win left in a shroud of doubt.

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Originally Posted by USA LOVES THE KLITSCHOS

Vitali has never been knocked down or out and I don't think it was going to happen that night. It's too bad Hasim Rahman didn't take his win and retire after he knocked Lewis out denying him a rematch after all he did knock his ass out, it was not a win left in a shroud of doubt.

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You can't really tell to me it looked like Vitali Klitschko didn't have much left in the tank. After that big uppercut from Lennox Lewis in the 6th round, and Vitali Klitschko was holding on for dear life at the end of the round.

All i know is that if the fight would of gone on, Vitali Klitschko risked being blinded in one eye. Do you really think it was worth the risk ? because i certainly don't, and lets remember all the stitches and all the surgery. Vitali Klitschko had to have to repair his eye, its not like it was an everyday cut you see in boxing it was a serious injury.

I like Vitali Klitschko because he is willing to make fights exciting, unlike his brother who i don't like at all. I actually wish Vitali Klitschko would have stayed in boxing and Wladimir Klitschko would have retired.

But regarding Lennox Lewis vs Vitali Klitschko 2, i really don't know what Lennox Lewis thought about the rematch. But neither do you but i've always thought Lennox Lewis is a pretty smart guy, he realized he was almost 40 and starting to lose his best attributes. So he retired on top which i would of done aswell in his position.

But no way was he scared of Vitali Klitschko, lets remember who Lennox Lewis did fight in his prime. He never ducked anyone and was always willing to the fight best, i would have liked to have seen the rematch. But i understand why Lennox Lewis retired and i think it was a smart move, because many boxers don't know when to retire and end up being punch drunk or etc.

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Vitali has never been knocked down or out and I don't think it was going to happen that night. It's too bad Hasim Rahman didn't take his win and retire after he knocked Lewis out denying him a rematch after all he did knock his ass out, it was not a win left in a shroud of doubt.

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You can't really tell to me it looked like Vitali Klitschko didn't have much left in the tank. After that big uppercut from Lennox Lewis in the 6th round, and Vitali Klitschko was holding on for dear life at the end of the round.

All i know is that if the fight would of gone on, Vitali Klitschko risked being blinded in one eye. Do you really think it was worth the risk ? because i certainly don't, and lets remember all the stitches and all the surgery. Vitali Klitschko had to have to repair his eye, its not like it was an everyday cut you see in boxing it was a serious injury.

I like Vitali Klitschko because he is willing to make fights exciting, unlike his brother who i don't like at all. I actually wish Vitali Klitschko would have stayed in boxing and Wladimir Klitschko would have retired.

But regarding Lennox Lewis vs Vitali Klitschko 2, i really don't know what Lennox Lewis thought about the rematch. But neither do you but i've always thought Lennox Lewis is a pretty smart guy, he realized he was almost 40 and starting to lose his best attributes. So he retired on top which i would of done aswell in his position.

But no way was he scared of Vitali Klitschko, lets remember who Lennox Lewis did fight in his prime. He never ducked anyone and was always willing to the fight best, i would have liked to have seen the rematch. But i understand why Lennox Lewis retired and i think it was a smart move, because many boxers don't know when to retire and end up being punch drunk or etc.

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I respect your response it was well said.I just feel had there not been a cut the fight would have turned out alot different as would the rematch.

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I just enjoyed the fact that Vit clinched twice in the entire fight.
Take notes, Wlad.

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I hate both Klitschkos with a passion rivaling my hatred for Larry the Cable Guy, but I must admit thats ONE thing I have to give Vitali props for.

He barely clinched at all. He fought Peter like a man.

Yea, I agree it was definately a pro Vitali build up. Atleast they picked the right horse. Would have been a bit embarrassing for them if he came out to all that and got schooled.

It was a shameful build up actually. It was like some huge Goebbels inspired parade. Fighters should walk to the ring with some music and a few explosions if they are that way inclined. But when you have the announcer saying such biased things as that, and have former champs who have obviously just said what they said for a bit of pocket money being projected like star wars style holograms....well it seems incredibly biased and beyond how things should be. Peter went out there to fight Vitali and that should have been enough without all that extra nonsense on top.

I was watching that at at 6am in the Morning thinking what a pile of shit. And I still think the same. It was crap, as was the fight. I went to bed again straight after. I needed sleep.

First of all, ring entrances in Germany are often quite spectacular (at least for the home fighter), and anyone surprised by this have not been paying too much attention to fights there before.

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Originally Posted by miles

It was a shameful build up actually. It was like some huge Goebbels inspired parade.

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Miles, you're a great poster, but not only is this bs, it's majorly disrespectful and borderline racist (well not racist, as Germans are the same race, but you get my drift). They were hyping the home fighter. They were selling him as good as they could. Nothing less, nothing more.

You'd see the same with Hatton or Haye in England, but you would never dream of invoking the ghost of Goebbels then, would you?

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Originally Posted by awdleyfuturehalloffamer

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Originally Posted by BIG H

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Originally Posted by awdleyfuturehalloffamer

i like vitali's fighting style better than vlad's. Vitali would have beat lewis if not for his eye. The man is a really good fighter.

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Congratulations on the most stupid comment in recent memory. That's like saying, Spinks would've beaten Tyson if he hadn't got knocked out. Beating a guy's face so bad that he has to be pulled out by the doctor after 6 rounds impresses me far more than if Lewis had've won a 12 round jab fest. He did a job on Klitchko, look at their faces after the fight and tell me who won. :rolleyes:

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Lewis was getting his ass kicked until the cut happened, then the fight evened out a little. Yeah the cut was caused by a punch, but if the cut didn't happen Lewis would never have won.

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Mate that is just a ridiculous thing to say, it's the same as saying 'I know the Knockout was caused by a punch, but if the knock out didn't happen VK would've won' :confused:

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First of all, ring entrances in Germany are often quite spectacular (at least for the home fighter), and anyone surprised by this have not been paying too much attention to fights there before.

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Originally Posted by miles

It was a shameful build up actually. It was like some huge Goebbels inspired parade.

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Miles, you're a great poster, but not only is this bs, it's majorly disrespectful and borderline racist (well not racist, as Germans are the same race, but you get my drift). They were hyping the home fighter. They were selling him as good as they could. Nothing less, nothing more.

You'd see the same with Hatton or Haye in England, but you would never dream of invoking the ghost of Goebbels then, would you?

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I think you are quite right for calling me out on that statement. With hindsight I see that it was insensitive.

I was just trying to say that I thought the slant they were trying to put was itself somewhat ridiculous and too much for my liking. Of course, it didnt quite come out that way when I hastily posted earlier. I would be critical of that kind of bombast regarding any fighter, and British fighters would not escape my scorn either.

I summonsed up Goebbels as a name associated with spectacle and making things look grand from a designated angle, it was not intended as a xenophobic attack upon race nor nation.

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Originally Posted by Mikkel_K

First of all, ring entrances in Germany are often quite spectacular (at least for the home fighter), and anyone surprised by this have not been paying too much attention to fights there before.

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Originally Posted by miles

It was a shameful build up actually. It was like some huge Goebbels inspired parade.

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Miles, you're a great poster, but not only is this bs, it's majorly disrespectful and borderline racist (well not racist, as Germans are the same race, but you get my drift). They were hyping the home fighter. They were selling him as good as they could. Nothing less, nothing more.

You'd see the same with Hatton or Haye in England, but you would never dream of invoking the ghost of Goebbels then, would you?

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I think you are quite right for calling me out on that statement. With hindsight I see that it was insensitive.

I was just trying to say that I thought the slant they were trying to put was itself somewhat ridiculous and too much for my liking. Of course, it didnt quite come out that way when I hastily posted earlier. I would be critical of that kind of bombast regarding any fighter, and British fighters would not escape my scorn either.

I summonsed up Goebbels as a name associated with spectacle and making things look grand from a designated angle, it was not intended as a xenophobic attack upon race nor nation.

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No harm done, I knew you did not mean it 'in that way'. For the record I dont have any particular sensibilities regarding Germans either. I do know however, how most Germans react when confronted in one way or another with those memories, especially in situations where there is no need at all to evoke them. So, even if I am not particularly pc, I thought the line was unfair. Anyway, the positive rep is returned, and even more so now I find you a class poster for admitting (even the slightest) mistakes.

I still disagree with you that it was bad taste though - I thought it was damn cool!

This was not the most partisan fight of all time. For one, we have had some bad crowds before. For another......the scorecards (at least one) was particularly generous to Peter. You wouldn't see that at teh most biased fight ever.