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Who would win these fantasy fights being that you were in the Rocky Universe?
(Apollo Creed from Rocky II)
Apollo Creed vs Ivan Drago
Apollo Creed vs Clubber Lang
Apollo Creed vs Tommy Gunn
Apollo Creed vs Mason Dixon
Ivan Drago vs Clubber Lang
Ivan Drago vs Tommy Gunn
Ivan Drago vs Mason Dixon
Clubber Lang vs Tommy Gunn
Clubber Lang vs Mason Dixon
Tommy Gunn vs Mason Dixon
apollo only beats clubber, and mason. drago and gunn rapes him
Drago beats all 4
clubber beats dixon
and tommy beats dixon and maybe apollo.
i think dixon was the worst fukin rocky opponent ever and fukin 50+ year old rocky whooped his asss. so he beats nobody.
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caleoh12
Who would win these fantasy fights being that you were in the Rocky Universe?
(Apollo Creed from Rocky II)
Apollo Creed vs Ivan Drago
Apollo Creed vs Clubber Lang
Apollo Creed vs Tommy Gunn
Apollo Creed vs Mason Dixon
Ivan Drago vs Clubber Lang
Ivan Drago vs Tommy Gunn
Ivan Drago vs Mason Dixon
Clubber Lang vs Tommy Gunn
Clubber Lang vs Mason Dixon
Tommy Gunn vs Mason Dixon
I'm not sure creed had a lot left following the first fight with Rocky Drago beats him handily. Styles makes fights and Drago was all wrong for us Baby !!!
Creed edges past clubber in a see saw battle.
Creed owns Morrison... erm sorry Gunn. Gunn was just a paper copy of Rocky and Creed would have sussed him.
Creed also beats Dixon on points in a boring fight.
Drago beats Dixon and Gunn. Dixon late stoppage although Ivan gets a quite nasty cut... Gunn with the same style as Rocky but not as much heart also gets stopped in round 8.
Drago V Lang is heavweight re-run of Hagler Hearns with Drago winning by KO.
Lang v Dixon controversial points win for Dixon and after the fight Clubber bites of his nose and then retires to join an underground set of freedom fighters... you can hire them... if you can find them ;D.
Lang V Gunn - See Balboa V Lang 1. Clubber owns Gunn and then later sleeps with his girlfriend on an American Big Brother type of show.
Can't believe I spent two minutes of my life typing this :rolleyes:
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Love these threads ;D
Drago beats them all
Apollo from first Rocky - beats all the rest
Clubber - beats Gunn & Dixon
Gunn beats Dixon
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Let me start off by saying the reason I picked Apollo from Rocky II was because he was focused and aggressive. He won almost every round against Rocky in the rematch but cause of his stupid pride, got himself knocked out in the last round.
The Apollo from Rocky I wasn't in tip-top shape and didn't turn it on until he realized Rocky was serious.
With that said, here are my predictions:
Apollo UD Lang: It was obvious Clubber couldn't deal with a boxer.
Drago KO Apollo: It would definitely be much more competitive, but Dragon would get to him late.
Apollo KO Gunn: Gunn only had an offense.
Apollo UD Dixon: Someone said he could barely deal with a 50 year old Rocky. A prime Apollo boxes circles around him.
Drago KO Lang: Someone also said Hagler vs Hearns, I totally agree!
Drago KO Gunn, Dixon: Drago was just a phenom.
Lang KO Gunn, Dixon: Lang's power was scary...
Dixon KO Gunn: Gunn's lack of heart and defense makes me think Dixon can take him. Dixon may have had his hands full with an old Rocky but Gunn lost to a slightly less old Rocky, out of training, with severe brain trauma...
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Let me start off by saying the reason I picked Apollo from Rocky II was because he was focused and aggressive. He won almost every round against Rocky in the rematch but cause of his stupid pride, got himself knocked out in the last round.
The Apollo from Rocky I wasn't in tip-top shape and didn't turn it on until he realized Rocky was serious.
With that said, here are my predictions:
Apollo UD Lang: It was obvious Clubber couldn't deal with a boxer.
Drago KO Apollo: It would definitely be much more competitive, but Dragon would get to him late.
Apollo KO Gunn: Gunn only had an offense.
Apollo UD Dixon: Someone said he could barely deal with a 50 year old Rocky. A prime Apollo boxes circles around him.
Drago KO Lang: Someone also said Hagler vs Hearns, I totally agree!
Drago KO Gunn, Dixon: Drago was just a phenom.
Lang KO Gunn, Dixon: Lang's power was scary...
Dixon KO Gunn: Gunn's lack of heart and defense makes me think Dixon can take him. Dixon may have had his hands full with an old Rocky but Gunn lost to a slightly less old Rocky, out of training, with severe brain trauma...
yea ur rite about apollo beatin clubber. he surely cant handle a boxer.
but i think gunn can beat dixon. DICKSON hehe, was the worst man to ever fight rocky. atleast gunn gave rocky a better fight and it was in the STREET and dixon could barley handle a 60 yr old rocky. and dixon was in bad shape.
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I agree clearly Drago was the best by far, he knocks all the others out. I always thought it was highly dubios Rocky managed to beat Drago, I don't know if he was ever tested but something was not right about that.
Creed easily gets rid of Gunn and I personally think he'd do to Clubber Lang what Rocky did before Lang turned dirty. If Balboa could completely outbox Lang then Creed would have played with him.
I agree Dixon gets destroyed inside 2 rounds by Lang, Creed, Drago and Gunn imo.
In fact I think they may all have got him out of there in the first round.
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I agree clearly Drago was the best by far, he knocks all the others out. I always thought it was highly dubios Rocky managed to beat Drago, I don't know if he was ever tested but something was not right about that.
Creed easily gets rid of Gunn and I personally think he'd do to Clubber Lang what Rocky did before Lang turned dirty. If Balboa could completely outbox Lang then Creed would have played with him.
I agree Dixon gets destroyed inside 2 rounds by Lang, Creed, Drago and Gunn imo.
In fact I think they may all have got him out of there in the first round.
Drago was untested in the pro ranks having only fought a past his best Creed. His mental state (possibly due to his use of illegal drug enhancements) was his downfall against Rocky. When the Rock didn't stay down he started to to doubt his invincibility. When Rocky knocked him down I think he could have got to his feet but decided against it because he was mentally beaten. I wonder if the defeat to the Rock would have been the beggining of the end once the air of invincibility had been stripped from him :-\
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I agree clearly Drago was the best by far, he knocks all the others out. I always thought it was highly dubios Rocky managed to beat Drago, I don't know if he was ever tested but something was not right about that.
Creed easily gets rid of Gunn and I personally think he'd do to Clubber Lang what Rocky did before Lang turned dirty. If Balboa could completely outbox Lang then Creed would have played with him.
I agree Dixon gets destroyed inside 2 rounds by Lang, Creed, Drago and Gunn imo.
In fact I think they may all have got him out of there in the first round.
Drago was untested in the pro ranks having only fought a past his best Creed. His mental state (possibly due to his use of illegal drug enhancements) was his downfall against Rocky. When the Rock didn't stay down he started to to doubt his invincibility. When Rocky knocked him down I think he could have got to his feet but decided against it because he was mentally beaten.
I wonder if the defeat to the Rock would have been the beggining of the end once the air of invincibility had been stripped from him :-\
I don't think so becuase I really don't think any other human could get past the first 3 or 4 rounds with him to test his heart.
Also his punching power was like five times greater than a normal heavyweight pro, he was a killer in the ring, literally.
I always maintain there was something dodgy about that fight. Not saying Rocky is a drug's cheat but something didn't seem right to me.
Maybe political involvement as it was a big cold war battle and Drago did seem to quit in the end. Was he paid off handsomely by the American feds to take a dive so America could win the cold war battle? I dunno, just something not right about it all imo.
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I agree clearly Drago was the best by far, he knocks all the others out. I always thought it was highly dubios Rocky managed to beat Drago, I don't know if he was ever tested but something was not right about that.
Creed easily gets rid of Gunn and I personally think he'd do to Clubber Lang what Rocky did before Lang turned dirty. If Balboa could completely outbox Lang then Creed would have played with him.
I agree Dixon gets destroyed inside 2 rounds by Lang, Creed, Drago and Gunn imo.
In fact I think they may all have got him out of there in the first round.
Drago was untested in the pro ranks having only fought a past his best Creed. His mental state (possibly due to his use of illegal drug enhancements) was his downfall against Rocky. When the Rock didn't stay down he started to to doubt his invincibility. When Rocky knocked him down I think he could have got to his feet but decided against it because he was mentally beaten.
I wonder if the defeat to the Rock would have been the beggining of the end once the air of invincibility had been stripped from him :-\
I don't think so becuase I really don't think any other human could get past the first 3 or 4 rounds with him to test his heart.
Also his punching power was like five times greater than a normal heavyweight pro, he was a killer in the ring, literally.
I always maintain there was something dodgy about that fight. Not saying Rocky is a drug's cheat but something didn't seem right to me.
Maybe political involvement as it was a big cold war battle and Drago did seem to quit in the end. Was he paid off handsomely by the American feds to take a dive so America could win the cold war battle? I dunno, just something not right about it all imo.
His punching was five times greater but that was measured on a static machine not on a moving target that was punching back. If power was the only factor to being the best most dominant fighter then Frazier and Foreman beat Ali 10 out of 10 ?
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If the Rocky movies were real, I believe Ivan Drago would beat all. He had radical punching power, AND he was able to fight for a full 15 rounds, he'd be unbeatable. (Rocky was only able to beat him out of sheer determination of avenging his friend Apollo's death).
I'd LOVE to see Clubber and Drago fight. Clubber would defenitely win on cameras. Clubber would also beat Gunn and Dixon.
I believe if Apollo had trained right, he would beat Gunn and Dixon. Not so sure about Clubber though. I also believe that had Apollo taken the Ivan Drago seriously and trained hard, he still would have lost, but I believe he'd have been evasive enough so that he wouldn't have died.
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If Lang and Creed fought 10 times, Creed would win 7 decisions, and Lang would get DQ'd the other 3 times.
If Creed and Drago fought 10 times, Drago would win 8 by KO, and Creed would win 2 decisions.
If Lang and Drago fought 10 times, each would win 5 by KO.
All three beat Gunn and Dixon 6 ways to Sunday.
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I agree clearly Drago was the best by far, he knocks all the others out. I always thought it was highly dubios Rocky managed to beat Drago, I don't know if he was ever tested but something was not right about that.
Creed easily gets rid of Gunn and I personally think he'd do to Clubber Lang what Rocky did before Lang turned dirty. If Balboa could completely outbox Lang then Creed would have played with him.
I agree Dixon gets destroyed inside 2 rounds by Lang, Creed, Drago and Gunn imo.
In fact I think they may all have got him out of there in the first round.
Drago was untested in the pro ranks having only fought a past his best Creed. His mental state (
possibly due to his use of illegal drug enhancements) was his downfall against Rocky. When the Rock didn't stay down he started to to doubt his invincibility. When Rocky knocked him down I think he could have got to his feet but decided against it because he was mentally beaten. I wonder if the defeat to the Rock would have been the beggining of the end once the air of invincibility had been stripped from him :-\
oh yea, i forgot about that. Drago fukin cheated, he had height, arm length, and power advantage and still lost LOL. but wat if drago didnt use those drugs against clubber lang and creed do you still think he wouldve won. i say NO FUKIN WAY;D
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Apollo Creed from Rocky II)
Apollo Creed vs Ivan Drago = Ivan Drago KO 6.
Apollo Creed vs Clubber Lang = Apollo Creed TKO 5.
Apollo Creed vs Tommy Gunn = Apollo Creed TKO 6.
Apollo Creed vs Mason Dixon = Apollo Creed TKO 9.
Ivan Drago vs Clubber Lang = Ivan Drago KO 3.
Ivan Drago vs Tommy Gunn = Ivan Drago KO 1.
Ivan Drago vs Mason Dixon = Ivan Drago KO 2.
Clubber Lang vs Tommy Gunn = Clubber Lang KO 3.
Clubber Lang vs Mason Dixon = Clubber Lang TKO 4.
Tommy Gunn vs Mason Dixon = Mason Dixon UD.
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Apollo Creed from Rocky II)
Apollo Creed vs Ivan Drago = Ivan Drago KO 6.
Apollo Creed vs Clubber Lang = Apollo Creed TKO 5.
Apollo Creed vs Tommy Gunn = Apollo Creed TKO 6.
Apollo Creed vs Mason Dixon = Apollo Creed TKO 9.
Ivan Drago vs Clubber Lang = Ivan Drago KO 3.
Ivan Drago vs Tommy Gunn = Ivan Drago KO 1.
Ivan Drago vs Mason Dixon = Ivan Drago KO 2.
Clubber Lang vs Tommy Gunn = Clubber Lang KO 3.
Clubber Lang vs Mason Dixon = Clubber Lang TKO 4.
Tommy Gunn vs Mason Dixon = Mason Dixon UD.
How can you think Mason Dixon would beat Tommy Gunn and go more rounds with Creed than a prime Clubber Lang? :confused:
Dixon only barely won a disputed decision against a literally 65 year Rocky who had retired the sport 20 years earlier due to brain damage. He hadn't fought inside the ring since the mid 80's and Dixon went life and death with him.
That's like Joe Frazier coming back now and losing a split decision to Wladimir Klitschko :rolleyes:
Creed would kill Mason Dixon, by far the weakest of all the Rocky champs. He wasn't even a real heavyweight, he's a natural 175 lber.
Even Tommy Gunn would kill him
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Apollo Creed from Rocky II)
Apollo Creed vs Ivan Drago = Ivan Drago KO 6.
Apollo Creed vs Clubber Lang = Apollo Creed TKO 5.
Apollo Creed vs Tommy Gunn = Apollo Creed TKO 6.
Apollo Creed vs Mason Dixon = Apollo Creed TKO 9.
Ivan Drago vs Clubber Lang = Ivan Drago KO 3.
Ivan Drago vs Tommy Gunn = Ivan Drago KO 1.
Ivan Drago vs Mason Dixon = Ivan Drago KO 2.
Clubber Lang vs Tommy Gunn = Clubber Lang KO 3.
Clubber Lang vs Mason Dixon = Clubber Lang TKO 4.
Tommy Gunn vs Mason Dixon = Mason Dixon UD.
How can you think Mason Dixon would beat Tommy Gunn and go more rounds with Creed than a prime Clubber Lang? :confused:
Dixon only barely won a disputed decision against a literally 65 year Rocky who had retired the sport 20 years earlier due to brain damage. He hadn't fought inside the ring since the mid 80's and Dixon went life and death with him.
That's like Joe Frazier coming back now and losing a split decision to Wladimir Klitschko :rolleyes:
Creed would kill Mason Dixon, by far the weakest of all the Rocky champs. He wasn't even a real heavyweight, he's a natural 175 lber.
Even Tommy Gunn would kill him
Mason Dixon is a better boxer Tommy Gunn who is a poor mans version, of Rocky Balboa thats why he would win. And the reason he would last longer than Tommy Gunn against Clubber Lang, because Tommy Gunn is a brawler nothing more nothing less. Brawlers get eaten alive by Clubber Lang, Mason Dixon has the boxing skills to last longer than Tommy Gunn.
Misread what you said on the first part, i think Mason Dixon lasts longer against Apollo Creed than Clubber Lang. Because he has some boxing skills some toughness which showed against Rocky Balboa. And much better stamina than Clubber Lang who gets wasted after only few rounds. Mason Dixon wouldn't rush Apollo Creed he has the skills to make it an interesting boxing match but would end up losing in the end. Clubber Lang throws wild haymakers, and like i said gets wasted after only few rounds. Rocky Balboa copied Apollo Creed's style and we see what happened there, except it would take Apollo Creed a bit longer than Rocky Balboa, because he wouldn't brawl as much and he didn't hit as hard.
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Between Mason Dixon and Tommy Gunn...
Mason Dixon lost to an old Rocky who had a full training camp.
Tommy Gunn lost to a not so much younger Rocky who was out of training and was suffering from sever brain trauma.
I think Mason takes this one. Tommy Gunn has no defense and no heart.
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Between Mason Dixon and Tommy Gunn...
Mason Dixon lost to an old Rocky who had a full training camp.
Tommy Gunn lost to a not so much younger Rocky who was out of training and was suffering from sever brain trauma.
I think Mason takes this one. Tommy Gunn has no defense and no heart.
Not to get off topic, but I once read some rumors that according to the Rocky storyline, that all the stuff in Rocky V never even happened and that it was all a dream that Rocky had while he was in a coma. (He was supposed to be in a coma from the Drago fight). Anyone know where I can get the full info about this? :dontknow:
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Apollo Creed from Rocky II)
Apollo Creed vs Ivan Drago = Ivan Drago KO 6.
Apollo Creed vs Clubber Lang = Apollo Creed TKO 5.
Apollo Creed vs Tommy Gunn = Apollo Creed TKO 6.
Apollo Creed vs Mason Dixon = Apollo Creed TKO 9.
Ivan Drago vs Clubber Lang = Ivan Drago KO 3.
Ivan Drago vs Tommy Gunn = Ivan Drago KO 1.
Ivan Drago vs Mason Dixon = Ivan Drago KO 2.
Clubber Lang vs Tommy Gunn = Clubber Lang KO 3.
Clubber Lang vs Mason Dixon = Clubber Lang TKO 4.
Tommy Gunn vs Mason Dixon = Mason Dixon UD.
How can you think Mason Dixon would beat Tommy Gunn and go more rounds with Creed than a prime Clubber Lang? :confused:
Dixon only barely won a disputed decision against a literally 65 year Rocky who had retired the sport 20 years earlier due to brain damage. He hadn't fought inside the ring since the mid 80's and Dixon went life and death with him.
That's like Joe Frazier coming back now and losing a split decision to Wladimir Klitschko :rolleyes:
Creed would kill Mason Dixon, by far the weakest of all the Rocky champs. He wasn't even a real heavyweight, he's a natural 175 lber.
Even Tommy Gunn would kill him
Mason Dixon is a better boxer Tommy Gunn who is a poor mans version, of Rocky Balboa thats why he would win. And the reason he would last longer than Tommy Gunn against Clubber Lang, because Tommy Gunn is a brawler nothing more nothing less. Brawlers get eaten alive by Clubber Lang, Mason Dixon has the boxing skills to last longer than Tommy Gunn.
Misread what you said on the first part, i think Mason Dixon lasts longer against Apollo Creed than Clubber Lang. Because he has some boxing skills some toughness which showed against Rocky Balboa. And much better stamina than Clubber Lang who gets wasted after only few rounds. Mason Dixon wouldn't rush Apollo Creed he has the skills to make it an interesting boxing match but would end up losing in the end. Clubber Lang throws wild haymakers, and like i said gets wasted after only few rounds. Rocky Balboa copied Apollo Creed's style and we see what happened there, except it would take Apollo Creed a bit longer than Rocky Balboa, because he wouldn't brawl as much and he didn't hit as hard.
But Mason Dixon almost lost to an ultra poor mans version of Rocky!
If a 65 year old Rocky after over 20 YEARS!!! of inactivity can come back at age 65 and lose a controversial split decision to Mason Dixon what do you think a prime Balboa would do to Dixon?
Even Lou Dibella, Dixon's promoter says to his advisor after offering Rocky the fight ' This guy is in his prime (meaning Rock), he'd kill him (meaning Dixon)
Dixon would have been destroyed by a prime Rocky.
As for Clubber being a brawler, maybe but in the rematch with Rocky Rocky fought an unbelievable fight, it was his best performance in my opinion. He had speed, footwork, defence, that version of Rocky would have literally killed Dixon inside a round imo.
No way Dixon beats any of them and I don't think he lasts to the mid rounds against any of them.
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Drago beats them all
but i would say that wouldnt I;D
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Between Mason Dixon and Tommy Gunn...
Mason Dixon lost to an old Rocky who had a full training camp.
Tommy Gunn lost to a not so much younger Rocky who was out of training and was suffering from sever brain trauma.
I think Mason takes this one. Tommy Gunn has no defense and no heart.
Not to get off topic, but I once read some rumors that according to the Rocky storyline, that all the stuff in Rocky V never even happened and that it was all a dream that Rocky had while he was in a coma. (He was supposed to be in a coma from the Drago fight). Anyone know where I can get the full info about this? :dontknow:
No,please,diverge off the topic as much as you wish. People are discussing fictional characters thought up by Sylvester Stallone as if they were real. And frighteningly I found myself having an opinion that was on topic.
Creed crushes all.
So lets all step back from the abyss and post more pictures of rocks
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Between Mason Dixon and Tommy Gunn...
Mason Dixon lost to an old Rocky who had a full training camp.
Tommy Gunn lost to a not so much younger Rocky who was out of training and was suffering from sever brain trauma.
I think Mason takes this one. Tommy Gunn has no defense and no heart.
Not to get off topic, but I once read some rumors that according to the Rocky storyline, that all the stuff in Rocky V never even happened and that it was all a dream that Rocky had while he was in a coma. (He was supposed to be in a coma from the Drago fight). Anyone know where I can get the full info about this? :dontknow:
I would seriously hope not but they did have some wacky fucking storylines back in the 80's
Who can forget the soap opera the Colby's where to try and secure another series they decided to have the main character Fallon abducted by aliens :o:confused::-\
Or Dallas where they attempted to scrub over an entire series in which Bobby Ewing was killed off by having the whole year long series just a dream and him being in the shower at the beginning of the next series :rolleyes:
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All Drago's victories would be no contests, just like James Toney at heavyweight. I also think the defeat against Rocky aged Drago and he may not have had the mental strength to beat even Polly.:cool: