Olubamiwo debut - Seen a heavyweight recently in this kind of shape??

Hey guys,

One of my best friends here just turned pro under Maloney. Larry Olubamiwo. World class power and have you seen a heavyweight recently in such good shape? Bit nervous of course being his debut but he knocked this dude out by hitting him on his glove! :o;D
He has great dedication and hopefully can move towards a title after getting some more experience.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5b_9tTOA_Vc

What do you all think even though it's early days? I'd say he needs to relax and keep his hands up so far when throwing shots. Other than that, great power and great variety of shots thrown to wear this durable journeyman down!

Hes 30 years old, and he fought a guy with 33 loses. You cant really judge anything at all at this very early stage of a career. But a good start can be said. I can see him fighting for the British belt, but at 30 hes not going to be a world champion

In what kind of shape how? If you are basing it on pure muscle mass Shannon Briggs make him look trim

If you base it on his punch out put the "Big Goof" Tye Fields has a 90+ per rd punch output for over 80% of his bouts....

Overall size both Klitschko brothers match that

The guy does seem to like to work though and does throw a variety of shots which is good but he smothers himself horribly and he also throws the same pattern of combos that any experienced HW would pick up on easily'''

Sultan Imbragimov say what you will about the guy would make this kids look silly...

As Tam said he is 30yrs old and still a novice...he might make a few decent undercard bouts but don't look for him to be anywhere near a worl title

I did a thread about Larry last week but nobody was interested i liked the look of him and that was a good debut fight and performance.

I see Daxx has come out of retirement..again..guess it's not just boxers but boxing writers as well who like to that pull that old trick ;)

I appreciate what you're saying and agree that he smothered his work a bit but it's his FIRST fucking fight!

Sultan Ibragimov? You're comparing my boy to a former world champion!? I'm actually surprised you're allowed to inform people about the happenings of boxing if you're making statements like Sultan Ibragimov would make him look silly - Anybody with half a brain cell knows he would at this stage in their respective careers but you don't know what the future will hold.

Would you have banked that Hopkins would be where he is at after his first pro fight? No, so don't come in here with your holier than thou attitude unless you're some kind of boxing mystic meg which you certainly ain't (aren't you the guy that said Baldomir would 'steamroll' Floyd Mayweather before they fought?)

Also read what I write fully before giving your opinion. I said hopefully he can work towards a 'title'! Where did I mention a WORLD title? It's too early to tell how he will improve for those kind of talks.

I thought age might come up. Fair enough Tam but the age thing is a non factor in my opinion because he had maybe 15 amateur fights tops so he is not battle worn in the slightest. He lives a straight edge lifestyle and doesn't smoke, drink or anything. (we've seen what that can do for longevity, look at Hopkins)

Finally, the guy he beat hasn't been knocked out in 2 years and a two time ABA finalist in Tom Dallas couldn't get the job done a couple months ago either and Sinan Samil Sam took 2 rounds to do it. A great start for Larry and this despite him being nervous. Give him a chance, it's one fight.

Shame really Daxx, you gave me my first few cc's in this place but I'm not quite sure where you get off on this new bullshit attitude. Constructive criticism is one thing but you need to get off your high horse. You might be right all along but let's wait and see shall we before you get your knickers in a bunch! I'll chat to you again when he picks up his first title..

Did he have any other type of fight experience ie kick boxing or thai boxing? 15 amatuers fights and 1 pro fight at 30 shows he doesnt have a lot of experience. A tough domestic heavyweight like Danny Williams with a semi decent chin I believe would be able to weather his storm and beat him. Although he looks like he has power, its not everything in boxing. If he came in with somebody who can box, but he still wins conviningly I can definatly back him to win a title. Buts its a waiting game, lets see how he gets on in his next one.

He doesn't look like he is very good. He looks like your typical body builder, trying to box.

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Originally Posted by Althugz

I see Daxx has come out of retirement..again..guess it's not just boxers but boxing writers as well who like to that pull that old trick ;)

I appreciate what you're saying and agree that he smothered his work a bit but it's his FIRST fucking fight!

Sultan Ibragimov? You're comparing my boy to a former world champion!? I'm actually surprised you're allowed to inform people about the happenings of boxing if you're making statements like Sultan Ibragimov would make him look silly - Anybody with half a brain cell knows he would at this stage in their respective careers but you don't know what the future will hold.

Would you have banked that Hopkins would be where he is at after his first pro fight? No, so don't come in here with your holier than thou attitude unless you're some kind of boxing mystic meg which you certainly ain't (aren't you the guy that said Baldomir would 'steamroll' Floyd Mayweather before they fought?)

Also read what I write fully before giving your opinion. I said hopefully he can work towards a 'title'! Where did I mention a WORLD title? It's too early to tell how he will improve for those kind of talks.

I thought age might come up. Fair enough Tam but the age thing is a non factor in my opinion because he had maybe 15 amateur fights tops so he is not battle worn in the slightest. He lives a straight edge lifestyle and doesn't smoke, drink or anything. (we've seen what that can do for longevity, look at Hopkins)

Finally, the guy he beat hasn't been knocked out in 2 years and a two time ABA finalist in Tom Dallas couldn't get the job done a couple months ago either and Sinan Samil Sam took 2 rounds to do it. A great start for Larry and this despite him being nervous. Give him a chance, it's one fight.

Shame really Daxx, you gave me my first few cc's in this place but I'm not quite sure where you get off on this new bullshit attitude. Constructive criticism is one thing but you need to get off your high horse. You might be right all along but let's wait and see shall we before you get your knickers in a bunch! I'll chat to you again when he picks up his first title..

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With the current heavyweight crop there's no reason why ANYBODY can't win a title.

There's especially no reason why he can't win a British or Commonwealth title too. A fat, obese John McDermott clearly beat Danny Williams last time out. Williams and Skelton are both coming to the end of their careers, Audley Harrison is garbage, David Haye is looking at world honours.

The British domestic scene heavyweight door is wide open.

All things considered, for a debut he didn't look bad at all.

Hard to make any judgements on that fight. He throws pretty good punches, he's not too sloppy. Didn't look too accurate but he got the job done. I don't think 30 is too late for heavyweights, you got guys fighting into their 40's and doing just fine. He just need to fight regularly and lets see what he looks like 10 fights from now.

That guys neck/fat is freakily big, looks like it would take a truck to move his head an inch ,

' looks like ' ;)

Worked with Larry, I was impressed with His attitude plus He is a lovely Guy, wish Him all the Best.

We need all the depth we can get at heavyweight....after a couple fights maybe he can get after Audley ;)

For a debut the guy looks good...

keep posting. can't wait to see more. he needs to find a way to limber up.

That is one giant-sized freakin neck! ha.

For sure hard to judge much of anything from that fight...other then he can throw a punch and put a man down. Suppose time and more fights will tell the tale on him better. I'd watch his next fights.

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Originally Posted by Althugz

I see Daxx has come out of retirement..again..guess it's not just boxers but boxing writers as well who like to that pull that old trick ;)

I appreciate what you're saying and agree that he smothered his work a bit but it's his FIRST fucking fight!

Sultan Ibragimov? You're comparing my boy to a former world champion!? I'm actually surprised you're allowed to inform people about the happenings of boxing if you're making statements like Sultan Ibragimov would make him look silly - Anybody with half a brain cell knows he would at this stage in their respective careers but you don't know what the future will hold.

Would you have banked that Hopkins would be where he is at after his first pro fight? No, so don't come in here with your holier than thou attitude unless you're some kind of boxing mystic meg which you certainly ain't (aren't you the guy that said Baldomir would 'steamroll' Floyd Mayweather before they fought?)

Also read what I write fully before giving your opinion. I said hopefully he can work towards a 'title'! Where did I mention a WORLD title? It's too early to tell how he will improve for those kind of talks.

I thought age might come up. Fair enough Tam but the age thing is a non factor in my opinion because he had maybe 15 amateur fights tops so he is not battle worn in the slightest. He lives a straight edge lifestyle and doesn't smoke, drink or anything. (we've seen what that can do for longevity, look at Hopkins)

Finally, the guy he beat hasn't been knocked out in 2 years and a two time ABA finalist in Tom Dallas couldn't get the job done a couple months ago either and Sinan Samil Sam took 2 rounds to do it. A great start for Larry and this despite him being nervous. Give him a chance, it's one fight.

Shame really Daxx, you gave me my first few cc's in this place but I'm not quite sure where you get off on this new bullshit attitude. Constructive criticism is one thing but you need to get off your high horse. You might be right all along but let's wait and see shall we before you get your knickers in a bunch! I'll chat to you again when he picks up his first title..

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Sorry I did not feed you in posting your "Friend" with hype.....

You stated Have you seen a HW recently that looks like this?

I asked in what way....

The Imbragimov comment was due to the fact that he is a big guy who really just seems like that nothing more then a big guy...

It is easy to look the way he did against a guy with 30+ losses on his record......

First fight or not his camp should teach him the meaning of the word "Jab"......

At 30 yrs old with so much more needed to develop he will run out of time before he can.....

I have seen dozens of heavyweight fighters who looked more impressive in their debuts.....And Fizzled out.........

The 3 punches he was hit with he paused and once even took a step back (Those were not hard punches)...So that tells me he has no chin....

But if it makes you feel better..

He looked awesome...This guy is the biggest threat out there to Vitaly right now and it is only his debuet......His opponent was fantastic but Larry boy just out shined him.....

Feel better now...So save the name calling and the whole knickers in a bunch crap...and the insulting of me being a writer...You sound like a bitter little cry baby.....

Just because you post something on someone and they are your friend do not expect nothing but praise when you ask questions like have you seen a HW recently that looks like this,,,,Just post what you want..

"Please tell me my buddy will be the next big thing'

And when the opponent is 2-33 with his only wins over guys with an 0-7 and 1-13 yet has been getting beaten by guys with 0-0 records across the board.....I put nothing into nthe performance..


And please do pick this up again when he claims his first title...And make sure it is a legit one....

So I might as well consider this conversation closed

He definitely smothers his punches and his defense is non-existant. These aren't things that even a novice fighter should have even if it is his first fight. And at 29 years old, hate to say it, but old dogs don't (usually) learn new tricks. It will be really hard for him to not smother his punches and learn defense. He opens himself up big time when he throws those slow punches and unless he can address these things I don't see him getting out the basement. He's got great power, though, and I like that he isn't a plodding HW. He actually moves his feet to get into better position, but he just gets eager when he makes contact and gets too close. Tell your boy to keep heart. If he can see what we all can see and do something about it I like his chances for what he naturally brings to the table. And tell him to keep busy! At his age he needs to put like 8 fights under his belt per year for at least 2 years. If he's still around at like 35 there's no reason he can't be fighting someone for a belt.

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He definitely smothers his punches and his defense is non-existant. These aren't things that even a novice fighter should have even if it is his first fight. And at 29 years old, hate to say it, but old dogs don't (usually) learn new tricks. It will be really hard for him to not smother his punches and learn defense. He opens himself up big time when he throws those slow punches and unless he can address these things I don't see him getting out the basement. He's got great power, though, and I like that he isn't a plodding HW. He actually moves his feet to get into better position, but he just gets eager when he makes contact and gets too close. Tell your boy to keep heart. If he can see what we all can see and do something about it I like his chances for what he naturally brings to the table. And tell him to keep busy! At his age he needs to put like 8 fights under his belt per year for at least 2 years. If he's still around at like 35 there's no reason he can't be fighting someone for a belt.

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Good constructive criticism. Thanks Killface and everyone else who has posted. Just the comment about his age though, with 15 amateur bouts and 1 pro I think he can still learn new things and improve. As Scrap said his attitude and dedication is fantastic.

Spoke to him today and he said he knows his defence was shit in the fight and he'll be looking to work on that amongst other things.

He looks good enough for his first fight to me, I've seen a lot worse. I like that he goes to the body, he clinches on the inside as to not allow the man with shorter arms to get any work done. I wish he would lead off with his jab more as to not get countered badly. From what I've seen I don't think 30 is that bad depending on how he has treated his body to this point, If he works extremely hard he could have 10 more years in the sport, and he definitely has the raw tools to reach the top level of the sport(though he might be too slow). Its the technical ones he will have to develop, and thats what will be interesting to see. Keep updating us on him. I also think if he used his jab more effectively it would keep the range which would allow him not to smother his punches.

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Originally Posted by Tam Seddon

Hes 30 years old, and he fought a guy with 33 loses. You cant really judge anything at all at this very early stage of a career. But a good start can be said. I can see him fighting for the British belt, but at 30 hes not going to be a world champion

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Ha ha ha, Tam, read this to yourself while looking at your profile pic;D

The guy looks like he has power for sure but he also does look tight and a tad slow, also he held after a couple of shots from the journeyman:confused:

He doesn't seem to be bad.Of course nerves, that first time taking the headgear off,the smaller gloves. Everything comes into play at the point right before the bell rings. Hell wasn't that a first round KO. I like him already.

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Originally Posted by Tam Seddon

Hes 30 years old, and he fought a guy with 33 loses. You cant really judge anything at all at this very early stage of a career. But a good start can be said. I can see him fighting for the British belt, but at 30 hes not going to be a world champion

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Ha ha ha, Tam, read this to yourself while looking at your profile pic;D

The guy looks like he has power for sure but he also does look tight and a tad slow, also he held after a couple of shots from the journeyman:confused:

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Not sure what the holding was about after the shots from the journeyman..but I know a lot of these journeymen open up and throw lots of smothering shots whilst walking forward usually ending up in a clinch. Maybe it was a bit of both.

He definitely has a chin though, I've seen him and Terry Dunstan going all out in sparring and Larry hasn't even flinched. (which is why I'm chuckling at Daxx's 'no chin' comment because Terry Dunstan knocked Lennox out in sparring whilst serving as Lennox's sparring partner so he can definitely fling shots).

Hell, one training session it was me AND Terry Dunstan vs Larry and we pretty much beat the shit out of him for 4 rounds and he didn't even flinch. (Terry more than me ;)) Believe me the chin department is fine.

He'll really appreciate the constructive critcism though, he's very humble and I'm certain he'll work on his weaknesses. Very good points by all :)

Althugz, Terry didnt Kod Lennox,They stopped it because Lennox was getting bashed up and getting Hurt but He never went down.

My mistake scrap, thanks for the clarification. As you know people can put different spins on stories.
You were there right? I think I remember reading the thread about it..

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Originally Posted by Tam Seddon

Hes 30 years old, and he fought a guy with 33 loses. You cant really judge anything at all at this very early stage of a career. But a good start can be said. I can see him fighting for the British belt, but at 30 hes not going to be a world champion

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Ha ha ha, Tam, read this to yourself while looking at your profile pic;D

The guy looks like he has power for sure but he also does look tight and a tad slow, also he held after a couple of shots from the journeyman:confused:

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Not sure what the holding was about after the shots from the journeyman..but I know a lot of these journeymen open up and throw lots of smothering shots whilst walking forward usually ending up in a clinch. Maybe it was a bit of both.

He definitely has a chin though, I've seen him and Terry Dunstan going all out in sparring and Larry hasn't even flinched. (which is why I'm chuckling at Daxx's 'no chin' comment because Terry Dunstan knocked Lennox out in sparring whilst serving as Lennox's sparring partner so he can definitely fling shots).

Hell, one training session it was me AND Terry Dunstan vs Larry and we pretty much beat the shit out of him for 4 rounds and he didn't even flinch. (Terry more than me ;)) Believe me the chin department is fine.

He'll really appreciate the constructive critcism though, he's very humble and I'm certain he'll work on his weaknesses. Very good points by all :)

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Get over it you fucking baby....Just because I did not hype your man...So FUCKING WHAT......Like I said if you don't want to hear answers you might not like don't post simple...So what you are going to use my name in every post?........

You are embaressing yourself.......Act like a man and just move on...

Do you think Margarito goes on crying like a bitch when he reads negative shit in the press about him being a glorified club fighter?

Does Klitschko go to forums and cry like a bitch because people show only him big brother respect?

No and they are world champions multiple times......

Your man is going no where in this sport but to journeyman row simple as that....And if he does win a world title....Even a minor title with some clout (And no British titles do not count...I am talking USBA, NABO, NABF,)....I will write a public apology....

And you will rant on like a bitch about that too.....

As he gets going fight by fight he should loosen up he will have had a lot of nerves for his debut but at 18stone 12lbs (264lbs) he is one big heavy in good shape if he can take a good shot he could course problems in the heavyweight division i think he could win the British title. All we can do is see how he goes anybody know how tall he is?

6ft 5ins

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He's slightly under, Scrap. 6 foot 4.

I agree TysonBruno, he's certainly in with a shout for the British title if he can improve with every bout. First stop will be the Southern Area title if keeps racking up the wins. His next bout is in 2 weeks. Nov 15th. Will let you know how he got on..

What did he do before boxing? He looks a bit stiff but at least he finished the guy in one.

Some Brit novices would have farted about for a few rounds with that bloke.

Did a bit of sprinting a long time ago.

True Fenster, I mean the guy hadn't been knocked out in 2 years so despite Larry's faults a 1st round K.O is a pretty good result.

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Originally Posted by Tam Seddon

Hes 30 years old, and he fought a guy with 33 loses. You cant really judge anything at all at this very early stage of a career. But a good start can be said. I can see him fighting for the British belt, but at 30 hes not going to be a world champion

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Ha ha ha, Tam, read this to yourself while looking at your profile pic;D

The guy looks like he has power for sure but he also does look tight and a tad slow, also he held after a couple of shots from the journeyman:confused:

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The difference between Carl and larry is that Carl is on the brink of winning the title and larry has had 1 fight at pro and 15 at amatuer. Carl had a good amatuer career and has built himself to the position he is in now. But I hope your watching on 6th december because carl WILL be world champion.

looks in good shape but i couldnt see him going the distance ?

Hard to make that judgement based on a one rounder but I see what you're saying.
If he fights stiff and nervous for a few rounds that would sap all of his energy pretty quickly. He trains very hard though and as Scrap said, he is very dedicated so if he doesn't last the distance it definitely won't be due to his lack of training.

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Originally Posted by Tam Seddon

Hes 30 years old, and he fought a guy with 33 loses. You cant really judge anything at all at this very early stage of a career. But a good start can be said. I can see him fighting for the British belt, but at 30 hes not going to be a world champion

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Ha ha ha, Tam, read this to yourself while looking at your profile pic;D

The guy looks like he has power for sure but he also does look tight and a tad slow, also he held after a couple of shots from the journeyman:confused:

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Not sure what the holding was about after the shots from the journeyman..but I know a lot of these journeymen open up and throw lots of smothering shots whilst walking forward usually ending up in a clinch. Maybe it was a bit of both.

He definitely has a chin though, I've seen him and Terry Dunstan going all out in sparring and Larry hasn't even flinched. (which is why I'm chuckling at Daxx's 'no chin' comment because Terry Dunstan knocked Lennox out in sparring whilst serving as Lennox's sparring partner so he can definitely fling shots).

Hell, one training session it was me AND Terry Dunstan vs Larry and we pretty much beat the shit out of him for 4 rounds and he didn't even flinch. (Terry more than me ;)) Believe me the chin department is fine.

He'll really appreciate the constructive critcism though, he's very humble and I'm certain he'll work on his weaknesses. Very good points by all :)

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Do you have tapes of you fighting?

In case anyone is interested - Larry had his second bout at York Hall this Saturday.

He stopped David Ingleby (some may remember him from the TV show Prizefighter). It was a good victory again because Ingleby hadn't been knocked out in 2 and a half years and was riding high after a K.O victory of another prospect.

Was a good fight with Larry going 100mph straight from the bell. Ingleby covered up well and took Larrys shots. When Larrys workrate decreased he gave Larry some shots back.

Larry calmed down in the 2nd round and scored with a beautiful counter right hand to K.O Ingleby coming in.

Olubamiwo still needs to relax and work on some defence but a good victory!

If you're not interested - ignore this :)

P.S. Taeth, only just saw your question. I have a few from when I first started..Like my first 4 sparring sessions so I'm pretty shitty in them lol. I havn't boxed for 6 months. Gave it up to follow other priorities. If I was to box it would have been at welter or light welter. I weighed 147 in my avatar