Is this true about Pavlik?

Team Pavlik arrived in Kelly’s dressing room at Boardwalk Hall on Saturday night at 8:45 PM. Several minutes later, Dr. Domenic Coletta of the New Jersey Athletic Control Board came into the room to administer the final pre-fight physical. Everything went according to form until Coletta asked, “Are you on any medication?”

“Yes, sir.”

“What for?”

“Bronchitis.”

“Did you have a fever?”

“Not today.”

“Before today?”

“A hundred and one degrees.”

“What have you been taking?”

Mike Pavlik handed a sheet of paper to the doctor. “Here’s what they gave Kelly.”

Coletta scanned the list. Mucinex, penicillin (one shot on Wednesday night), and ciprofloxacin (500 mg twice a day through the day of the fight).

“How do you feel now?”

“Okay.”




Is it just me or was it a bad thing to go ahead with that fight? This is the first I have heard of him having the flu. A columnist was in the room when this all transpired.

Boxing - Columns - Thomas Hauser

No excuses once u step thru the ropes.

The cat's been out of the hat for a few days now...

Kelly was sick, but IMO he wont be the 1st or the last to fight sick.
Should he have fought? I don't know only he knows the real answer.
Was it a good idea? No.
(Actually as I stated I never like the idea of him fighting Hopkins since the fight was 1st announced I said fighting Hopkins is the worst thing Pavlik could do)

Lot's of fighters have gone on to fight sick some win, some loose.

Carlos Zarate was weight drained for his fight vs. Gomez. Zarate had been suffering from diaherrea and could not hold any food in his system. Zarate was TKO'd. (I think Gomez should have been DQ'd)

Ki Soo Kim was sick for his fight vs. Freddie Little. Kim was having problems making weight and couldn't keep food down. He went on to win.

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Originally Posted by eagle

No excuses once u step thru the ropes.

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Agreed 100%
You make the decision before the fight.

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Originally Posted by eagle

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Oh I agree, but I just find it strange that they went ahead with the fight. He could not have been anywhere near 100%. It probably would not even have made a difference, but you need to be at 100% to even have a remote shot against Hopkins. That was not Gary Lockett going into the ring that night.

No excuses for him here either, but it would certainly explain that look he had on his face the whole fight. He seriously just didn't look to be there.

I couldn't put my finger on it, but it seemed to be more then just as a result of him getting schooled.

Hindsight is 20/20, Pav was broke down and sorted through by the 3rd round.No post fight excuse need apply.I think Kelly can rebound at 160 but forget Hopkins return

I believe Winky Wright had the flu when he fought Soliman. He won that fight. It was a tough one for him though.

With or without the flu Pavlik get's schooled by Hopkins. I already knew it would happend, people should stop looking for excuses and appreciate the beautiful peformance one of the greatest fighters that has ever step on the ring did that night. Not saying you are looking for excuses but in a way this dictates that.

I felt something was up when I was watching the fight. Pavlik really was a ghost. Just wasnt throwing at all. If Hopkins is throwing more than a high output worker like Pavlik for 9 of the rounds then that alone is saying something. Hopkins fought out of his skin and was superb, but Pavlik was missing a few gears in there.

Still, Pavliks camp went through with the fight and Hopkins didnt just win, he completely dominated. So Ive no excuses.

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I believe Winky Wright had the flu when he fought Soliman. He won that fight. It was a tough one for him though.

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By tough you mean Soliman landed like 11% of his punches, and Winky won virtually every round? Hatton was sick against Collazo or Urango

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I felt something was up when I was watching the fight. Pavlik really was a ghost. Just wasnt throwing at all. If Hopkins is throwing more than a high output worker like Pavlik for 9 of the rounds then that alone is saying something. Hopkins fought out of his skin and was superb, but Pavlik was missing a few gears in there.

Still, Pavliks camp went through with the fight and Hopkins didnt just win, he completely dominated. So Ive no excuses.

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I think getting hit that cleanly, and missing all your shots takes it out of you. It reminded me of George Foreman against Muhammad Ali. Ali doesn't hit as hard as Frazier, but he was really hurting George off the ropes, and that really took the energy out of George, that and George missing his punches. I just don't think Pavlik could get off because Hopkins didn't allow him. I also think Pavlik just how he reacted after the fight would have used the sickness as an excuse.

I do like that about Pavlik no excuses he didn't piss and moan after the fight and say to Larry I was sick I have bronchitis,and have been on meds. Only 1 reason he stepped through the ropes. 3 million dollars.

Kelly got cronic beat down disease the symptoms are often overlooked before a fight even i didn't notice it. It happens a lot these days. These guys train fight and feel great then after a loss is when it really hits ya. No big deal, it's contagious and kelly will just pass it on to somebody else soon....

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Kelly got cronic beat down disease the symptoms are often overlooked before a fight even i didn't notice it. It happens a lot these days. These guys train fight and feel great then after a loss is when it really hits ya. No big deal, it's contagious and kelly will just pass it on to somebody else soon....

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I believe Winky Wright had the flu when he fought Soliman. He won that fight. It was a tough one for him though.

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By tough you mean Soliman landed like 11% of his punches, and Winky won virtually every round? Hatton was sick against Collazo or Urango

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Urango, I believe.

He would have lost anyway, but looking back on it, Pavlik did look under the weather. He might have done a little better, but it was pretty clear Hopkins had him sussed out and Kelly was in for boxing lesson, even at 100%. If he were healthy, it might have been a little more entertaining.

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He would have lost anyway, but looking back on it, Pavlik did look under the weather. He might have done a little better, but it was pretty clear Hopkins had him sussed out and Kelly was in for boxing lesson, even at 100%. If he were healthy, it might have been a little more entertaining.

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I agree, Pavlik needs to stop moving up in weight to fight these guys, Let them come down to him for Christ Sakes.

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I believe Winky Wright had the flu when he fought Soliman. He won that fight. It was a tough one for him though.

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By tough you mean Soliman landed like 11% of his punches, and Winky won virtually every round? Hatton was sick against Collazo or Urango

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If I'm not mistaken, Soliman landed more punches on Winky than anyone in years. Sure it was only 11%, but he threw a lot of punches. Winky didn't get wobbled, but he was marked up.

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Originally Posted by Taeth

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I believe Winky Wright had the flu when he fought Soliman. He won that fight. It was a tough one for him though.

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By tough you mean Soliman landed like 11% of his punches, and Winky won virtually every round? Hatton was sick against Collazo or Urango

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If I'm not mistaken, Soliman landed more punches on Winky than anyone in years. Sure it was only 11%, but he threw a lot of punches. Winky didn't get wobbled, but he was marked up.

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Just another Testement to Winky being a GOAT

here is another snippet from the same Article. It looks like Pavlik's father was worried.

"At eleven o’clock, Loew gloved Kelly up.

Fighter and trainer began working the pads. It was Kelly’s first strenuous exercise of the night.

“Double jab,” Loew instructed. “That’s it. Chin down. Aggressive but patient.”

Kelly began to cough.

“Stick to the game plan. Nice and easy. Double the jab.”

The hard edge that had permeated the dressing room prior to Kelly’s recent fights didn’t seem to be there.

“That’s it. Punish him. Hard to the body. If you hit him on the belt and he turns to the referee to bitch, jump on his ass.”

Each time Loew took a break, Kelly went into the adjacent bathroom, coughed, and spat out phlegm. The third time he did it, Mike Pavlik turned away in a corner of the room, pressed both fists against the wall, and took a deep breath. A very deep breath. “Christ,” he murmured.

I remember Naz fought Medina with flu and Hatton fought Urango with or after a chest infection but neither of these compare to Mike Tyson he fought Ettienne with a broken back lol;D

At this point, all this stuff doesn't really matter. If this was the case, Kelly should've never fought Hopkins as scheduled and postponed the match. I honestly thought Pavlik didn't look like his usual self but Hopkins had him so dominated that I don't think being 100% healthy would've won him the fight. Maybe a round here and there, but that kind of Hopkins wasn't losing a fight.

This happens all the time in boxing, usually only big money fighters are the one who will pull out of a scheduled fight. It is a thing every fighter has to cope with, you can't be 100%, 100% of the time. All these excuses, if they are coming from his camp seem desperate. Like they need something to take away from the schooling, which puts a bad light on his trainer.

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here is another snippet from the same Article. It looks like Pavlik's father was worried.

"At eleven o’clock, Loew gloved Kelly up.

Fighter and trainer began working the pads. It was Kelly’s first strenuous exercise of the night.

“Double jab,” Loew instructed. “That’s it. Chin down. Aggressive but patient.”

Kelly began to cough.

“Stick to the game plan. Nice and easy. Double the jab.”

The hard edge that had permeated the dressing room prior to Kelly’s recent fights didn’t seem to be there.

“That’s it. Punish him. Hard to the body. If you hit him on the belt and he turns to the referee to bitch, jump on his ass.”

Each time Loew took a break, Kelly went into the adjacent bathroom, coughed, and spat out phlegm. The third time he did it, Mike Pavlik turned away in a corner of the room, pressed both fists against the wall, and took a deep breath. A very deep breath. “Christ,” he murmured.

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Dean no offense, but that reads like some kind of dramatic movie script.

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I remember Naz fought Medina with flu and Hatton fought Urango with or after a chest infection but neither of these compare to Mike Tyson he fought Ettienne with a broken back lol;D

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LMAO good one;D

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here is another snippet from the same Article. It looks like Pavlik's father was worried.

"At eleven o’clock, Loew gloved Kelly up.

Fighter and trainer began working the pads. It was Kelly’s first strenuous exercise of the night.

“Double jab,” Loew instructed. “That’s it. Chin down. Aggressive but patient.”

Kelly began to cough.

“Stick to the game plan. Nice and easy. Double the jab.”

The hard edge that had permeated the dressing room prior to Kelly’s recent fights didn’t seem to be there.

“That’s it. Punish him. Hard to the body. If you hit him on the belt and he turns to the referee to bitch, jump on his ass.”

Each time Loew took a break, Kelly went into the adjacent bathroom, coughed, and spat out phlegm. The third time he did it, Mike Pavlik turned away in a corner of the room, pressed both fists against the wall, and took a deep breath. A very deep breath. “Christ,” he murmured.

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Dean no offense, but that reads like some kind of dramatic movie script.

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Why would I take offense? I didn't write it.

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I believe Winky Wright had the flu when he fought Soliman. He won that fight. It was a tough one for him though.

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By tough you mean Soliman landed like 11% of his punches, and Winky won virtually every round? Hatton was sick against Collazo or Urango

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If I'm not mistaken, Soliman landed more punches on Winky than anyone in years. Sure it was only 11%, but he threw a lot of punches. Winky didn't get wobbled, but he was marked up.

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He landed more than Trinidad did, but not more than MOsley or Taylor or Quartey I don't think. I think Winky being more stationary he takes more damage, but 90% of it is through his gloves ,but even at 160 I think he is a little less cut then when he was younger, and guys with extra weight tend to puff up more.

It couldn't have been that bad otherwise the fight wouldn't have went ahead.

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I remember Naz fought Medina with flu and Hatton fought Urango with or after a chest infection but neither of these compare to Mike Tyson he fought Ettienne with a broken back lol;D

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Hatton's always sick due to the amount of rubbish and shit he eats and drinks after fights. He then has to loose about 35 pounds which results in a chest infection or cold.

if kelly was sick he shouldnt have fought simple as that.