there have been enough threads slagging him off, now heres the opposite, for a truly great british boxer ;)
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there have been enough threads slagging him off, now heres the opposite, for a truly great british boxer ;)
Lol - This is just gonna end up with the same arguments as the other 5 or so JC threads that are open. This one will never be settled. I just want somebody who reckons JC is protected and ducked people to tell me who he should've fought at SMW and didn't! And not the bullshit unfounded rubbish that he ducked journeyman Johnson ;D
Ive done a little list before BIG H and think it was for you it was last year at some time i will say this there weren't many world beaters as such but he could have fought better quality fighters.
Agreed there is some muck on his list, but Eubank, Brewer, Reid, Woodhall, Mitchell to name a few better ones, have all held one of the 4 main belts and were all as good as the other names out there, like Beyer, Ottke, Saica & Echols, in my opinionQuote:
Originally Posted by tysonbruno
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Originally Posted by BIG H
"TRUE!!!!":rolleyes:
I will mention that Calzaghe is a great fighter.I always like watching Calzaghe,he has a great chin and a great boxing brain to match there's no dought about that.I think Calzaghe will yet prove again what he is made of and give Jones and his fans(lovers and haters)a great display of his great talents!!!!
I'll miss him when he retires(Whenever that is)
Best chin in the game!!!!!
But in 45 fights 21 world title defences are Eubank,Reid,Woodhall,Mitchell,Brewer,Lacy,Kessler and Hopkins enough in a 15 year or so career?Quote:
Originally Posted by BIG HAgreed there is some muck on his list, but Eubank, Brewer, Reid, Woodhall, Mitchell to name a few better ones, have all held one of the 4 main belts and were all as good as the other names out there, like Beyer, Ottke, Saica & Echols, in my opinionQuote:
Originally Posted by tysonbruno
hijacked already:mad:
They are if they are the best available ;) Lets face it it hasn't been a great division.Quote:
Originally Posted by tysonbrunoBut in 45 fights 21 world title defences are Eubank,Reid,Woodhall,Mitchell,Brewer,Lacy,Kessler and Hopkins enough in a 15 year or so career?Quote:
Originally Posted by BIG HAgreed there is some muck on his list, but Eubank, Brewer, Reid, Woodhall, Mitchell to name a few better ones, have all held one of the 4 main belts and were all as good as the other names out there, like Beyer, Ottke, Saica & Echols, in my opinionQuote:
Originally Posted by tysonbruno
Sorry Leggy
Awesome fighter, no matter who he has fought hes always been one of the best fighters I have seen.
Yeh, I watched him back in the ABAs and he was the best amatuer I had seen.
could you at least give us a page next time ;)Quote:
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Had high hopes for this thread when I opened it, then tysonbruno made the third post:rolleyes:, the guy is obsessed.
I will give a positive on Joe Calzaghe love him or hate him he gets us all talking;)
Best thing Calzaghe did was beat an overhyped Lacy. Kessler was a quality opponent, and that is as much props as i will give him. In my opinion he also lost a slap competition agaisnt an old man (b-hop). Now he is fighting another old man and calling it a day... Yeah real hall of famer there:rolleyes:
Calzaghe was a two division ring champ, and most definately in the top 2 for all time super middleweight (leave open debate for him and Jones Jr.)
I respect what he has done in the ring, and will no doubt be remember as one of the all time greats from Wales.
I'll give props to calzaghe hated or not he must be doing something right to be undefeated, champ and gather all this attention. Better controversy than not being noticed at all, there are a ton of boxers who never get a title at all, his long stretch of success over the pond may have been too long and now all of the sudden it seems he desires to be loved and respected by the same "yanks" he now referrs to negativly is too little too late ....fighting guys now he should have fought years ago isn't going to help. I'm not picking him to beat jones but won't think any different about him if that's the case, but there are those who if he looses will try and discredit his whole career off this one fight, it'll be interesting to see how it all plays out
Thing that I find intresting is calzaghe haters will not just try and pick apart joe's resume, which one can do to almost any fighter's resume, but they will try and discredit joe's skill. You may argue that joe hasn't fought the greatest fighter's around but the people that try and argue that joe isn't a very skilled fighter with a great chin I will never get.
Of all the calzaghe fights i've seen thus far, there are only two that i didn't like. Calzaghe/reid and to a lesser degree calzaghe/hopkins, both holdfests. All the rest were pretty damn exciting.