Ok fight fans, i'm new to this board and ive got a silly question to ask.:confused:
Out of the 4 major organisations, What title is considered the best to hold, WBC, WBA, IBF or WBO? When i say best, i mean the most prestigious.
Cheers
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Ok fight fans, i'm new to this board and ive got a silly question to ask.:confused:
Out of the 4 major organisations, What title is considered the best to hold, WBC, WBA, IBF or WBO? When i say best, i mean the most prestigious.
Cheers
Tradionally they rank like thisQuote:
Originally Posted by The Cutsman
WBC
WBA
IBF
WBO
but to be honest the way the game is today none of thenm necessarily have much credit.
Weclome to the site mate
I would say the WBC
1.WBC
2.WBA
3.IBF
4.WBO
But a lot of people put stock in The Ring Magazine belt now days.
Cheers for that mate.
It's a bit confusing with so many titles around!
The Ring is clearly the most prestigious and difficult to attain. However, going by just alphabet gangs:
WBC (they have the most Ring Champions out of any alphabet gang)
IBF (IBF only get second place because of the WBA's decline)
WBA (The WBA should be second; however, they have severely watered down their titles ever since instituting 3 titles per weight class: super, regular, interim.)
WBO (Although WBO is the lowest of the alphabet gangs it is the quickest rising. In the 1990's HBO would not even mention it, even when it was being defended in their fight. Since the,n the WBO has gained acceptance as a 4th alphabet title.
Yeah, I've heard more than one boxer say the WBC belt.
Besides, who doesn't want a green belt? ;D
None of the alphabets are any better than the other. The fighter makes the belt.
Ive heard boxers say the WBC is the "top" one BUT that's when they either win it, or are about to fight for it ;)
I treat them as guides. If someone wins a belt they have generally proven to be world class. At the very least makes them worthy of a unification match with the top man.
WBC belt out of them four
The RING belt is what really matters to fight fans though
That's true but I recall reading Fernando Vargas once said he wanted to win that one but I don't think he ever did. Only IBF & WBA as I recall. Was knocked out by Oscar when he had his shot to win Oscar's belt in their unification bout.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fenster
how is the ring belt organised, is it loadsa experts or summit:confused:
I always thought the WBC belt was the most prestigious but now-a-days all the alphabet titles mean very little. The RING belt is the one to look out for because not every division has a champion. That belt has to be earned.
The WBC is the one that has the most clout, but I tend to look at the alphabet titles as pieces of a pie, the more of those four a fighter has, the more claim they have to being the champ of a division. Ultimately the ring title trumps them all, and the WBA has made it more confusing by adding the superchamp status, which makes me have less of a regard for that organization.
Exactly what I was gonna say.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fenster
good post;DQuote:
Originally Posted by killersheep
The Ring Champ has to lose his title in the ring, move weight classes or retire. If the title is vacated (due to retirement or moving weightclasses) then the number 1 and number 2 (sometimes number 3) ring ranked fighters have to fight to establish a new Ring Champ, if this doesn't happen there simply isn't a champ. The Ring does not strip titles, nor do they have silly things like Emeritus, Vacant, Regional or Super titles.Quote:
Originally Posted by Drago
id say definetly the WBC then wba and ibf are fairly equal, WBO is the least prestegious, if joe c had held the WBC from the start his record might well look alotg better imo, people just dont want the wbo belt
ring belt for me trumps all though
yea its wbc, wba, ibf, then wbo. and i dont see why the ring belt should matter so much.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kel
The ring belt has the most definitive system. The alphabets can remove a title with no reason, the ring title must be won in the ring literally.Quote:
Originally Posted by kingfrnkyea its wbc, wba, ibf, then wbo. and i dont see why the ring belt should matter so much.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kel
What he said;)You have to BEAT the champ to BE the champ.Quote:
Originally Posted by killersheepThe ring belt has the most definitive system. The alphabets can remove a title with no reason, the ring title must be won in the ring literally.Quote:
Originally Posted by kingfrnkyea its wbc, wba, ibf, then wbo. and i dont see why the ring belt should matter so much.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kel
The Ring championship.
Its the only belt won & lost in the ring!!!
so if pac or campbell for example unifies the lightweight division, jmm's is still division top dog and his ring title gets more respect because he beat casa? just asking.Quote:
Originally Posted by killersheep
Yes! Marquez would still be the linear champ! He would not have lost his title in the ring so why would anyone want to discredit his achievement?Quote:
Originally Posted by KKisserso if pac or campbell for example unifies the lightweight division, jmm's is still division top dog and his ring title gets more respect because he beat casa? just asking.Quote:
Originally Posted by killersheep
not to discredit anybody but i only feel that the undisputed champion should be the linear title holder.Quote:
Originally Posted by GalaxyYes! Marquez would still be the linear champ! He would not have lost his title in the ring so why would anyone want to discredit his achievement?Quote:
Originally Posted by KKisserso if pac or campbell for example unifies the lightweight division, jmm's is still division top dog and his ring title gets more respect because he beat casa? just asking.Quote:
Originally Posted by killersheep
I know it is unrealistic but i think boxing was a better sport when there was one champ in each division because the best had to fight the best no politics no debate one champion truly undisputed
They are all worth jack shit.
Buut I would say the wbc is the most recognised world wide.
Also the wba has lowered the bar even more by creating its so called super champions.
The Ring belt is the mark of a true champion today.;D